Shop cost reduction

[RndmNumGenerator]

If you improve the value of an item (say turning water into poison) then you end up with the merchant's guild owing you money, which also bugs the score to give you a ridiculous number of points if you win the game.

Really? How many points does it give you? Around the amount for saving khellevaster? More? Less?

What happens if you decrease the value of an item?

[gut]

> How many points does it give you?

A zillion. It's like some sort of integer overflow almost.

> if you decrease the value of an item?

You will not be allowed to leave the shop, except via
teleportation or violence, until you pay your bill. It's
basically the same as zapping a wand. If you do leave
the shop, you still won't be allowed to shop anywhere
else until you pay. Well, maybe with ratlings,

[RndmNumGenerator]

> How many points does it give you?

A zillion. It's like some sort of integer overflow almost.

Huh... I just tried to experiment with this, giving a new character a bunch of potions of exchange. However, all the items I dipped only "looked different for a split-second", even if I owned them.

> if you decrease the value of an item?

You will not be allowed to leave the shop, except via
teleportation or violence, until you pay your bill. It's
basically the same as zapping a wand. If you do leave
the shop, you still won't be allowed to shop anywhere
else until you pay. Well, maybe with ratlings,

Can you pay your bill without having an item to purchase?

[Dudley]

...
for potions of exchage : they need to be blessed.

[gut]

You can turn potions of carrot juice, or whatever, into
potions of poison via picking them up while having the
'poison hands' corruption.

I don't know if blessed potions of exchange work on
unpaid items.

Yes, you can pay your debt without perchasing an item.
In fact, you have to, as the shopkeeper blocks the door
in/out until you 'pay your debt to the merchants guild".

[Soirana]

Yes, you can pay your debt without perchasing an item.
In fact, you have to, as the shopkeeper blocks the door
in/out until you 'pay your debt to the merchants guild".

You can tp out with debt active and that won't count as robbery. But next shopkeeper will block you again.
Clearly they have some astral phone line in Ancardia.

[Al-Khwarizmi]

Hmm. So shopkeepers call the all their buddies if you zap one of their wands but don't if you actually steal it? Curious.

[da1edwin]

So was the original poster correct about being able to curse unpaid items without penalty, or do you end up with a debt to the merchant's guild? And if the merchant's guild owes you money because you improved items, do they ever pay you?

[RndmNumGenerator]

...
for potions of exchage : they need to be blessed.

They were.