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    What prompted you to dig out a weeks-old forum post to base a personal accusation on a peculiar choice of spelling? Apart from the fact vogonpoet might have chosen the spelling in a tongue-in-cheek way - as he was talking to Angelus, who I'd refer to as an open source fanatic if I were sure what he actually is - there is also a gap between not liking Windows, or certain aspects of Windows, and actually preferring another OS.

    (I could mention that there are little things more inconsequential than an individual person's attitude towards computer's operating system, but seeing as I already took the time to type up this post myself I can't convince myself that's a valid point either.)
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    Current Windows releases are not my favorite operating systems but I still use them. However, it is all relative. I like playing video games and having a very simple to use computer with point-and-click. So I use a Windows machine. However, I also like having stability, security and uptime, so I also have a box with Debian installed on it. If I liked sitting in coffee shops while blindly defending my operating system preferences, I would get a Mac.
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    Disclaimer: couldnt resist to follow-up, feel free to skip this post, you won't miss a thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    What prompted you to dig out a weeks-old forum post
    Can't be that old, can it? I mean, it was in my "New Posts" list...

    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    a personal accusation
    Sorry, I won't do it again - I know, accusing someone of using Windows is pretty bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    gap between not liking Windows, or certain aspects of Windows, and actually preferring another OS.
    If only more people bridged that gap...

    Quote Originally Posted by fazisi View Post
    Current Windows releases are not my favorite operating systems but I still use them. However, it is all relative. I like [...] having a very simple to use computer with point-and-click. So I use a Windows machine.
    Funny, the exact same reason why I love Linux. Windows is just not ready for the desktop.
    (This is probably a really subjective thing, but I find Linux much easier to use than Windows, even if you stick to mouse-based control.)

    (Ok, the playing video games argument is valid.)


    Quote Originally Posted by fazisi View Post
    However, I also like having stability, security and uptime, so I also have a box with Debian installed on it. If I liked sitting in coffee shops while blindly defending my operating system preferences, I would get a Mac.
    True.


    Ok I guess I *am* trolling. Oops.
    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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    Ha ha. The personal accusation was "hypocrite" No way to weasel your way out of that one.
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    Now now Silfir, if JellySlayer wants to scan month old posts in order to call me a hypocrite, that's his prerogative.

    Personally, I hate many aspects of the MS windows family with a passion. But I use them every day. I have two computers at work which I use regularly. One runs the most hated version of UNIX ever, XENIX from RL patent trolls SCO. The other runs Windows XP. They are 18 years old and 7 years old respectively. I did not choose to be stuck with them, and a variety of reasons prevent me from changing anything major on either of them. Both of them suck ass, and getting them to work together has been a nightmare - most days I just stick to ASCII encoding and a bloody floppy disk, but sometimes I have to get the null modem cable out - its not pretty. Am I not allowed to hate the floppy disk because I use them every day? Shit, I must own the busiest floppy disk in the world, travelling as it does from one machine to another every day. One day it will just die for no reason, and I will move onto the next floppy in my diminishing secret floppy disk stash, and I will no doubt throw the dead one against a wall, use the disk as the shittest coaster in the world, and eventually throw the sad bits of distorted plastic away, but I would still rather use floppys than have to battle with the null modem (which both systems seem to hate with a passion).

    I don't see why it is hypocritical to mock any (operating) system just because I use it every day. If I had a nice short nickname for SCO XENIX 2.3.4 which I could use whilst being facetious about XENIX then I would gladly use it... Spatent Ctroll Odious XENIX? Scumix?

    Hopefully my next home computer will be a Linux install only - will have to bargain some more with the wife. We shall see. If so, I fully reserve the right to hate on Linux also.

    /don't get me started on floppy disks or null modems.
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    >> actually preferring another OS.

    > If only more people bridged that gap...

    I tried a couple of days ago. Installed ubuntu really easily on my
    year-old Emachines. Problem is, I couldn't get adom to run on it.
    I only tried the linux version though. I think my problem is that
    I'm so paranoid about allowing my OS to 'automagically' connect
    to random servers and download/update stuff. I did wonder how
    Ubuntu managed to fit such a supposedly advanced OS on a
    single CD. Turns out they managed it by only including about
    half the OS. From the stuff I managed to grep from varrying
    help sites, it seems I'll prolly have to DL another ~400 megas to
    have a functional OS. Just so much easier to use win7.

    > Now now Silfir, if JellySlayer wants to scan month old posts

    Yeah, stupid JellySlayer. Clever alias he used though.

    > sometimes I have to get the null modem cable out - its not pretty

    Think that's bad? When I was in tech school (ferever ago), we
    had to actually make null modem cables.
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    Dammit JellySlayer and Epythic, sorry .

    I have no idea how I did that.

    And making stone age stuff at school is not the same as having to use stone age stuff every day of ones professional career.

    Hell, I made a model of a Motte and Bailey Castle at school, but I am glad not to have to live in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    I tried a couple of days ago. Installed ubuntu really easily on my
    year-old Emachines. Problem is, I couldn't get adom to run on it.
    I only tried the linux version though.
    Weird, ADOM worked out-of-the box for me. What doesnt work?

    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    I think my problem is that
    I'm so paranoid about allowing my OS to 'automagically' connect
    to random servers and download/update stuff.
    I hope you don't do Windows updates, or use all those auto-updaters that programs insist on installing.
    (Oh and downloads are signed so it doesnt really matter where you download from, you can be sure the files are ok.)

    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    I did wonder how
    Ubuntu managed to fit such a supposedly advanced OS on a
    single CD. Turns out they managed it by only including about
    half the OS. From the stuff I managed to grep from varrying
    help sites, it seems I'll prolly have to DL another ~400 megas to
    have a functional OS. Just so much easier to use win7.
    What exactly does Win7 ship with that Ubuntu doesnt have on the install CD?

    MS Office 2007 is 617 MB, OpenOffice.org would be ~200MB, thats 400MB download less with Ubuntu right there (and I think OO.o is included already. Add in firefox (you dont use IE right?), a decent mail client, a chat client and all those other "little" things that Ubuntu afaik includes.)

    (In case you wonder, I can download Office and most other MS software gratis and legally via MSDNAA. Not that I'd need it.)

    Yay, now we are starting a full linux<-->windows debate. In an apple thread, no less. Not so good.
    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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    > What exactly does Win7 ship with that Ubuntu doesnt have on the install CD

    I wasn't meaning large programs like gimp or open office. I'm
    pretty sure it was just operating system stuff that it said
    needed updating. I seem to remember countless dozens of names
    like 'lib***' type stuff. See, the first thing Ubuntu did upon
    install was phone home. It auto-checked for updates, and that's
    something I certainly didn't give it permission to do. Granted,
    it wasn't difficult to disable it, but that isn't the point.
    Stuff like that is why I want to get away from windows. Ubuntu's
    'install manager' gave me a (HUGE) checklist of things (OS
    looking things to my eye) that needed updating. This was odd, as
    I had just DL'd the latest distro, which is quite recent.

    Disturbing thing is, I just checked the machine before posting
    this in an effort to get more specific names. When I ran 'check
    for updates' manually, it told me I no longer needed any, as the
    system had been successfully updated within the last few days. I
    ran it again to make sure, then it told me I had last updated
    'less than 4 hours ago'. If I did, I certainly didn't mean to, I
    only wanted to check. I'm now leaning toward uninstalling ubuntu,
    as I don't think I can trust it.

    I'll maybe try a different linux distro, but I'll not try Mandriva.
    I saw a youtube vid of installing mandriva, and it spams you to
    'register your OS now!' during the actual install process...

    Anyhoo, my adom effort was brief. I DL'd adom-111-elf.tar.gz and
    extracted it. I double clicked on 'adom', nothing. I right-click,
    chose 'open', nothing. I right-click 'properties', check the
    'allow executing as program' box still nothing. Right-clicking
    doesn't list any option like 'run as admin', but I got no prompt
    for a password. I don't think it's a proggie I have to compile.
    I'll try again later.

    I tried DL'ing InfraRecord. It's 'compile.txt' says I need Ms visual
    basic 6 and some other stuff I'm pretty sure I don't have. I don't
    even remember that being on the mega list of stuff from the update
    list. Maybe I'm too dumb/lazy for linux...

    > hope you don't do Windows updates, or use all those auto-updaters

    That is one of the main things I want to escape. I'm pretty good at
    disabling/blocking that kind of stuff, but the fact that it is there
    bugs me. Unfortunately, linux seems to offer little sactuary so far.

    > Oh and downloads are signed so it doesnt really matter where you download from

    My problem isn't hidden features, viri, or bugs. My problem is with
    the blatant trojans that are labled 'features' and celebrated openly.
    "Our program AUTOMATICALLY connects your PC to OUR SERVERS!
    YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING!!!11!!1! Our program
    will AUTOMAGICALLY send your inform- I mean, user feedback to
    uS So wE cAn IMpRoVe OuR pRoDUct AnD iMpRovE yOuR usEr
    ExPerIenCe!!11!! dOn'T woRRy, wE pRomISe wE Won'T SpReAD
    yOUr dAta ArOuND teH iNteRweBS."
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    Installing the latest patches, whether to an OS or an application, is recommended to keep a secure system. This is usually automated since most system administrators (read: computer users) are total idiots.

    Try opening a terminal and running adom in it.
    I said it before, and I'll say it again. If I knew scripture like you, I'd prolly be an athiest too.. -gut

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