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    Default First decent character :(

    Gah, first time I manage to get a character to the CoC without making a stupid mistake (ok that's not true, I ate a Kobold corpse because I thought they poisoned rather than sickened, and i was Poison immune..) and I get overconfident and run into what I think (based on the Artifact log) must've been an Artifact Guardian?

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    Nums          St:25  Le: 9  Wi:13  Dx:11  To:29  Ch: 6  Ap: 6  Ma:10  Pe: 7 N-
    DV/PV: 4/13    H: -6(120)     P: 35(35)      Exp: 8/29631       D: 9  Sp: 114
    Berserk
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                                      Inventory
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    Total weight: 2487 stones                Carrying capacity: 3375 stones
    
    Head          : uncursed hat [+0, +0]                                  [4s]
    Neck          : cursed black torc [+4, +2] (+10 spd)                   [3s]
    Body          : uncursed leather armor (+1, +1) [+0, +0]             [150s]
    Girdle        : uncursed mithril girdle [+0, +2]                      [20s]
    Cloak         : uncursed leather cloak (-1, +0) [+1, +0]              [40s]
    Right Hand    : uncursed huge iron hammer (-1, 2d9+2) [-3, +0]       [200s]
    Left Hand     : -
    Right Ring    : -
    Left Ring     : -
    Bracers       : uncursed bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd)           [10s]
    Gauntlets     : cursed white leather gauntlets [+0, +1]               [10s]
    Boots         : uncursed sandals [+0, +3]                              [6s]
    Missile weapon: -
    Missiles      : uncursed black hurthling quarrel (+1, 1d3+2)           [2s]
    Tool          : uncursed stethoscope                                   [5s]
    
    
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    Total weight: 2037 stones   Carrying capacity: 3375 stones
    
    Shields ('[')
       uncursed medium shield [+3, +1]                                   [100s]
       uncursed medium crystal shield [+9, +4]                           [160s]
    Cloaks ('[')
       uncursed light cloak [+1, +0]                                      [20s]
    Boots ('[')
       uncursed boots of sneakiness [+0, +0] {Dx+2}                       [20s]
       heap of 4 uncursed pairs of light boots [+0, +0]                   [80s]
       uncursed leather boots [+0, +0]                                    [25s]
    Necklaces (''')
       uncursed amulet of petrification resistance                         [3s]
       uncursed amulet of health                                           [3s]
       uncursed amulet of the cold heart {Ch-12}                           [3s]
       uncursed amulet of greed                                            [3s]
       uncursed pendant of mana {Ma+2}                                     [3s]
    One-handed weapons ('(')
       uncursed scalpel (+2, 1d3+1)                                        [2s]
       uncursed hand axe (+0, 1d6)                                        [50s]
    Two-handed weapons ('(')
       uncursed quarterstaff (+0, 1d10)                                   [40s]
    Missile weapons ('}')
       uncursed hand crossbow (+0, +0)                                    [30s]
    Missiles ('/')
       uncursed lead sling bullet (+3, 1d5)                                [3s]
       cursed lead sling bullet (+5, 1d5)                                  [3s]
       bundle of 8 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6+3)                          [16s]
       uncursed black hurthling quarrel (+0, 1d3+4)                        [2s]
    Tools (']')
       blessed bandage                                                     [2s]
       heap of 7 uncursed bandages                                        [14s]
       uncursed waterproof blanket                                        [10s]
       heap of 4 uncursed sis                                             [40s]
    Wands ('\')
       cursed wand of monster creation (0 charges)                         [3s]
       blessed wand of monster creation (6 charges)                        [3s]
       uncursed wand of fire (0 charges)                                   [4s]
    Potions ('!')
       uncursed potion of extra healing                                    [2s]
       uncursed potion of water                                            [4s]
       uncursed potion of gain attributes                                  [4s]
       uncursed potion of insight                                          [2s]
       uncursed potion of strength                                         [4s]
       uncursed potion of raw mana                                         [2s]
       uncursed potion of booze                                            [4s]
       uncursed potion of healing                                          [4s]
    Scrolls ('?')
       uncursed scroll of darkness                                         [2s]
       cursed scroll of item detection                                     [2s]
       uncursed scroll of power                                            [2s]
       uncursed scroll of great identify                                   [2s]
       uncursed scroll of identify                                         [2s]
    
    [Unfortunately I didn't find any shops yet so I didn't get to identify ANY ? ! or \s]
    
    
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      Alertness ................ 27    (mediocre)     [+2d4]
      Athletics ................ 46    (fair)         [+3d4]
      Bridge building .......... 14    (mediocre)     [+3d5] (mr)
      Climbing ................. 33    (fair)         [+3d3]
      Concentration ............ 35    (fair)         [+4d5]
      Cooking .................. 33    (fair)         [+3d4] (mr)
      Find weakness ............ 64    (good)         [+3d3]
      First aid ................ 72    (great)        [+3d4]
      Food preservation ........ 86    (great)        [+3d3]
      Gardening ................ 56    (good)         [+2d4]
      Gemology ................. 14    (mediocre)     [+3d3]
      Haggling ................. 30    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
      Healing .................. 91    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Herbalism ................ 68    (good)         [+3d5]
      Listening ................ 28    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
      Literacy ................. 62    (good)         [+2d4]
      Mining ................... 11    (mediocre)     [+3d4]
    
    
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       Slow Monster:    22,  12pp     (Effectivity: +0)
    
    
    
    
    
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                  His achievements during his adventures:
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    Nums, the trollish healer, was killed by an ogre lord.
    He scored 17046 points and advanced to level 8.
    He survived for 0 years, 17 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes and 52 seconds (7421
    turns).
    Nums visited 21 places.
    His strength score was modified by -1 during his career.
    His learning score was modified by +1 during his career.
    His willpower score was modified by +2 during his career.
    His dexterity score was modified by +1 during his career.
    His charisma score was modified by -2 during his career.
    His appearance score was modified by +1 during his career.
    His perception score was modified by -1 during his career.
    He ended his adventuring life on level 9 of the caverns of chaos.
    399 monsters perished under his attacks.
    The following three artifacts were generated during his adventure:
      the si
      the phial of Caladriel [probably what was being guarded by the ogre lord and the guy behind him?]
      the black torc
    He possessed the following intrinsics:
      He was fire resistant (enhanced through an item).
      He was poison resistant.
      He was cold resistant (gained through an item).
      He was cursed (gained through an item). [accidentally equipped the Black Torc... sigh, i found so many amulets too]
      He was shock resistant (gained through an item).
      He was immune to acidic attacks.
    He had the following talents: Alert, Long Stride, Miser, Treasure Hunter.
    He had a final speed score of 114 (final base speed: 100).
    He was not particularly religious.
    He did not ask for divine help.
    He was neutrally aligned.
    He was slightly tainted by Chaos.

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    Nope, the PoC is an artifact generated in the Gremlin Cave, far to the south west of the map.

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    Ogre lord at D:9... Can happen. You were pretty overconfident - 13 PV is pretty okay at this stage, but against hard-hitting opponents you need to be wary about berserking unless your PV is "ludicrous" instead of merely "pretty okay". 4 DV against a hard-hitting monster with several attacks is asking for trouble. But I'm one to talk - I learned that lesson the hard way myself often enough

    Once you feel the early game's going rather easy switch away from trolls for a change of pace. At least I feel the slow trollish leveling is just a major killjoy since it tages ages to get anywhere, and killed joy will lead to careless deaths such as this.
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    Nice, you got a giant slug corpse. =P

    Well, now you know that ogre lords are too dangerous to face on your first trip to CoC. Which helps, as you were fast enough to outrun him. Probably he was generated because you were cursed from the torc... or that could also be a mixed vault ahead of you. I would actually stick with trollish healers - one thing that would've helped you is that healers can use their stethoscopes without consuming a turn. That would've told you how buff this guy is.

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    Nope, the PoC is an artifact generated in the Gremlin Cave, far to the south west of the map.
    Ah, right, I did drop in there while I was trying to find the CoC, and I got spammed with the 'shiver' messages so I jumped straight back out.

    Once you feel the early game's going rather easy switch away from trolls for a change of pace.
    I don't always play trolls, I tend to decide based on the star sign - Troll Healers on the Candle sign for an easy game, if I get it, so I can practice a bit.

    Nice, you got a giant slug corpse. =P
    I actually got three, from near Keethrax =x

    And yeah, I won't be equipping the stupid Torc again, and I always forget about the stethoscope..

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    If you've got Candle you need not be either troll or healer
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    Drakeling healers are better than trollish healers in my opinion, but then I'm rather fond of drakelings in general...

    Seems you had some hard luck - even an ogre lord wouldn't normally be able to take down a tough troll like that. Still, I'd recommend in future keeping away from the two-handed weapons. You had a very nice shield in your pack, and trained a bit more it could have made you untouchable. Of course it also relies on finding a decent one-handed weapon, but I find they're not all that rare...
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    Aw, dammit! Won't bother making a new thread for this, but this character looked so promising...

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    Nums          St:13  Le:15  Wi:27  Dx:12  To:13  Ch: 8  Ap: 9  Ma:13  Pe:10 N+
    DV/PV: 6/8     H: -1(47)      P: 15(47)      Exp: 8/10637       PC: 6 Sp: 100
    Burdened Berserk
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                                      Inventory
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    Total weight: 1264 stones                Carrying capacity: 1300 stones
    
    Head          : uncursed leather cap [+0, +0]                          [5s]
    Neck          : uncursed amulet of protection +2                       [3s]
    Body          : uncursed light leather armor [+0, +2]                 [75s]
    Girdle        : uncursed leather girdle [+0, +0]                       [5s]
    Cloak         : uncursed light cloak [+1, +0]                         [20s]
    Right Hand    : uncursed adamantium spear (+1, 1d8+6)                 [36s]
    Left Hand     : cursed wooden shield [+3, +1]                         [80s]
    Right Ring    : blessed ring of damage                                 [1s]
    Left Ring     : cursed brass ring                                      [1s]
    Bracers       : -
    Gauntlets     : -
    Boots         : uncursed sandals [+0, +3]                              [6s]
    Missile weapon: uncursed sling (+0, +1)                                [3s]
    Missiles      : uncursed rock (+0, 1d4)                                [5s]
    Tool          : -
    
    
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                                        Stuff
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    Total weight: 1024 stones   Carrying capacity: 1300 stones
    
    Armor ('[')
       uncursed robe [+0, +1]                                             [60s]
    Shields ('[')
       uncursed wooden shield [+3, +1]                                    [80s]
    Boots ('[')
       uncursed light boots [+0, +0]                                      [20s]
    One-handed weapons ('(')
       uncursed warhammer (+0, 2d3)                                       [60s]
       uncursed weeping short sword (+0, 1d6)                             [30s]
       blessed hatchet (+0, 1d6+1)                                        [50s]
       uncursed sickle of penetration (+0, 1d4+2)                         [55s]
    Two-handed weapons ('(')
       heap of 2 uncursed quarterstaves (+0, 1d10)                        [80s]
       uncursed skull staff (+0, 1d10+1)                                  [40s]
    Missiles ('/')
       bundle of 3 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6)                               [6s]
       uncursed arrow (+0, 1d6+1)                                          [2s]
       blessed rock (+0, 1d4)                                              [5s]
       heap of 15 uncursed rocks (+0, 1d4)                                [75s]
    Tools (']')
       uncursed waterproof blanket                                        [10s]
       uncursed tinderbox (12)                                             [3s]
    Rings ('=')
       uncursed ring of stun resistance                                    [1s]
    Wands ('\')
       uncursed wand of ball lightning (1 charge)                          [4s]
       uncursed wand of monster creation (7 charges)                       [3s]
    Potions ('!')
       uncursed potion of longevity                                        [4s]
       uncursed potion of potential dexterity                              [4s]
       blessed berzio potion                                               [2s]
       cursed potion of booze                                              [4s]
       heap of 2 uncursed potions of carrot juice                          [8s]
       uncursed potion of cure poison                                      [2s]
       heap of 2 uncursed potions of water                                 [8s]
       cursed oil of rust removal                                          [2s]
       uncursed potion of potential learning                               [4s]
    Scrolls ('?')
       uncursed scroll of defense                                          [2s]
       uncursed scroll of identify                                         [2s]
       uncursed scroll of information                                      [2s]
       uncursed scroll of increase melee damage                            [2s]
       uncursed scroll of magic mapping                                    [2s]
       uncursed scroll of power                                            [2s]
       blessed scroll of power                                             [2s]
    Books ('"')
       blessed manual of bridge building                                 [100s]
    Food ('&#37;')
       uncursed dwarven sausage                                           [20s]
       heap of 2 uncursed iron rations                                   [200s]
       uncursed giant rat corpse                                          [60s]
    Valuables ('$')
       683 gold pieces                                                     [6s]
    Gems ('*')
       uncursed crystal of fire                                            [1s]
       cursed crystal of health                                            [1s]
    
    
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    Melee weapon           Lvl   Hit   Dam   DV   Level          Required marks
    ---------------------  ---   ---   ---   --   -------------  --------------
    Swords                   1    +1    +0   +0   basic                22
    Axes                     1    +1    +0   +0   basic                13
    Pole arms                3    +3    +1   +2   basic                33
    Staves                   2    +2    +0   +2   basic                22
    
    
    
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                                       Skills
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      Alertness ................ 50    (fair)         [+3d5]
      Climbing ................. 24    (mediocre)     [+2d4]
      Concentration ............100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      First aid ................ 45    (fair)         [+1d5]
      Food preservation ........ 45    (fair)         [+1d3]
      Gemology ................. 67    (good)         [+3d3]
      Haggling ................. 25    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
      Healing .................. 25    (mediocre)     [+3d3]
      Herbalism ................ 37    (fair)         [+2d4]
      Listening ................ 28    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
      Literacy ................. 89    (great)        [+2d4]
      Music .................... 42    (fair)         [+1d5]
      Stealth .................. 36    (fair)         [+2d4]
      Swimming ................. 52    (good)         [+1d5]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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                  His achievements during his adventures:
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    Nums, the drakish mindcrafter, was killed by a large gnoll.
    He scored 18263 points and advanced to level 8.
    He survived for 0 years, 3 days, 20 hours, 31 minutes and 44 seconds (3822
    turns).
    Nums visited 16 places.
    He ended his adventuring life on level 6 of a dangerous cave at the Drakalor
    Pass.
    153 monsters perished under his attacks.
    He possessed the following intrinsics:
      He was poison resistant.
      He was able to teleport.
      He was able to control teleportation.
      He was resistant to death rays.
      He was able to see invisible things.
    [all but the poison resistance (and tele control obviously) were from a single pool. imagine my joy at tptitis]
    He had the following talents: Good Shot, Quick, Very Quick.
    
    The following monsters were vanquished:
    [no cats, because it was so easy to confuse & run from them!]
    I had such a nice spear, tptitis + teleport control, was getting some nice gems from the proliferation of ants digging around the puppy cave, was having a generally easy time against anything (even Giant Ant Warriors, once I hit level 8). Figured I'd be fine against these gnolls and hyenas since I confused them all in a row, and then boom, large knoll kills me. I guess I let my hp get too low fighting ants on the level above - didn't have much time to train Healing up yet, either. The crystal of health wasnt identified

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    I`d advise you to play candle-born drakish fighter or something like this - with shield and polearm they are very hard to kill.

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    Well, I actually did quite well with a randomly generated Drakeling Merchant (specialty potions). Got to level 8 of CoC (after almost starving to death in the Big Room because of all the damn Wererats), but was travelling very slowly due to my lack of damage. Then I got killed by a Clay Golem. Couldn't run away because he slowed me

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