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    If you become invisible, and stay away from the shop, you can mostly avoid this effect. Not a permanent solution, but a temporary one at least. If you're going for the mystic, say, you can enter DT invisible and you should be able to teleport over without being bothered. The shoppie will eventually notice you while invis though, so don't spend too much time near the shop.

    Shop restocks are based on the number of items currently in the shop. Roughly, the shop's capacity is the number of floor spaces + number of wall spaces, and will only restock if there are fewer items than this. So if you've been selling a lot of stuff in the shop, it will never restock. If you wait around for awhile when the shop is first generated, you can usually get a restock of about half the shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasher View Post
    Which is why I'm here! I killed the Necromancer (Nonnak?) and his buddy the Dwarf, but am Emitting an Unholy Aura!

    Uh Oh! I remember how this happened last time and I got killed by Waldo and his buddies! Dare I try to make it to the mountain village to get a scroll? Or try the Dwarven Mystic and hope I don't get attacked on the way there?
    The scrolls from the mystic aren't guaranteed, so I wouldn't risk going back to DT again. Getting the scroll from the HMV sounds better. Have you descended through the UD already? Do you have a means of invisibility?

    If you haven't done so already (or taken the carpenter quest), another option is to try to take on Keethrax, and trade his corpse for a PoCC in Terinyo. Having a fire source and holy water is recommended to avoid frustration.

    I think I'm gonna read Gut's guide to killing him again and maybe make it work. I'm tired of that guy so much!

    Oh, why doesn't he ever restock his shop? If he did I might feel a little bit bad about killing him, but I don't right now!

    To make a long story short: I'm unholy! Ahhh. Also, Waldo: On my Hit List!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JellySlayer View Post
    Shop restocks are based on the number of items currently in the shop. Roughly, the shop's capacity is the number of floor spaces + number of wall spaces, and will only restock if there are fewer items than this. So if you've been selling a lot of stuff in the shop, it will never restock. If you wait around for awhile when the shop is first generated, you can usually get a restock of about half the shop.
    O.o where do you get that? I've played a lot near shops (casino <3) and it seems not dependant on the number of items, only floor spaces.
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    okay!

    Well! I killed the Water Serpent! I have not yet gone to the High King's place, because I have no way of making a bridge!
    Also, I have not found any Fireproof Blankets!

    I made it down to D:28, but I have run away cause a Doppleganger King is in the way of the stairs! I could not even hurt him! Of Course, my weapon is very very bad. My Sword of Sharpness Broke long ago! Also, he confused me over and over and over.

    To survive that harrowing Doppleganger King I had to use the Water Orb! Like 8 times! Now I am a Mana Battery, in addition to being 1/2 weight and gaining 6 DV.
    So, what should I do next? No Fireproof Blankets, and I'm not certain how to get past that Doppleganger.

    I went back to Dark Forge, but I had taken all the good weapons out of it long ago.

    Also, I Cannot seem to get Crowned! I am Very Close to my god, and even luring like 20 creatures over an Alter and Sacrificing them did not change that! Not even over 20000 gold has changed it! And I haven't prayed at all!

    On the other hand I have found a "Tract of Balance" and I am a neutral guy, so this might help?

    I really need a new weapon, a wand of cold or something, and a fireproof blanket I think!

    I'll post my guy, maybe I can get some help please?

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    Hmm, sounds tough... You need many more sacrifices than that to get a crowning though. About 100 sacs or 100k gold in total. Or 100 blessed stomafilla herbs. (You can mix and match of course.)

    If I were you I'd go clear out the High Kings dungeon and hope you find some useful items in there. And for that doppler king just leave him alone or use lots of offensive wands.
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    Code:
     Slayer III    St:21  Le:16  Wi:35  Dx:19  To:27  Ch:13  Ap:19  Ma: 6  Pe:13 N=
    DV/PV: 86/32   H: 280(281)    P: 20(65)      Exp: 19/573525     D: 28 Sp: 115
    Coward
    
      Effects of Corruption
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    You have become extremely thin and nimble (1/2 weight, DV: +6).
    You are a living mana battery.
    
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                                      Inventory
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    Total weight: 1831 stones                Carrying capacity: 2475 stones
    
    Head          : uncursed helm of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+3}    [100s]
    Neck          : uncursed amulet of free action                         [3s]
    Body          : blessed black dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [-2, +11]   [200s]
    Girdle        : blessed mithril girdle [+0, +4]                       [20s]
    Cloak         : blessed cloak of adornment [+2, +1] {Ap+4}            [40s]
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    Right Ring    : cursed ring of damage                                  [1s]
    Left Ring     : uncursed ring of ice                                   [1s]
    Bracers       : blessed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4}          [10s]
    Gauntlets     : uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3]        [10s]
    Boots         : blessed adamantium boots [+0, +3]                     [89s]
    Missile weapon: long bow (+2, +2)                                     [30s]
    Missiles      : bundle of 8 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6)                 [16s]
    Tool          : Chaos Orb of Elemental Water                         [100s]
    
    
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    Total weight: 1111 stones   Carrying capacity: 2475 stones
    
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       uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8}                    [60s]
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       uncursed archery gloves (+0, +4) [+0, +0]                           [6s]
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       uncursed ankh                                                       [3s]
       uncursed amulet of light                                            [3s]
       uncursed shining necklace                                           [2s]
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       uncursed bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd)                        [10s]
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       uncursed eternium dagger (+0, 2d4+7)                                [5s]
       blessed phase dagger (+1, 1d4)                                      [5s]
    Two-handed weapons ('(')
       uncursed quicksilver quarterstaff (+6, 5d3+5) [+3, +0] (+20 spd)   [20s]
    
    Rings ('=')
       heap of 2 uncursed rings of acid resistance                         [2s]
       uncursed ring of the fish                                           [1s]
       blessed ring of teleport control                                    [1s]
       uncursed ring of fire resistance                                    [1s]
       uncursed ring of searching                                          [1s]
       uncursed ring of stun resistance                                    [1s]
       uncursed wedding ring                                               [1s]
       uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+2}                   [1s]
       blessed ring of fire resistance                                     [1s]
       uncursed ring of cold resistance                                    [1s]
       ring of cold resistance                                             [1s]
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       uncursed wand of webbing (9 charges)                                [3s]
       uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges)                              [4s]
       uncursed wand of trap detection (3 charges)                         [3s]
       uncursed wand of digging (0 charges)                                [3s]
       uncursed wand of wonder (0 charges)                                 [3s]
       uncursed wand of trap detection (2 charges)                         [3s]
       uncursed wand of fire (0 charges)                                   [4s]
       uncursed wand of webbing (6 charges)                                [3s]
       uncursed wand of teleportation (1 charge)                           [4s]
       blessed wand of knocking (4 charges)                                [3s]
       blessed wand of fireballs (8 charges)                               [3s]
       uncursed wand of webbing (1 charge)                                 [3s]
       blessed wand of digging (4 charges)                                 [3s]
       uncursed wand of knocking (4 charges)                               [3s]
       blessed wand of ball lightning (4 charges)                          [4s]
       uncursed wand of acid (1 charge)                                    [4s]
       uncursed wand of door creation (1 charge)                           [3s]
       uncursed wand of fireballs                                          [3s]
       wand of trap detection                                              [3s]
    Potions ('!')
       uncursed oil of rust removal                                        [2s]
       heap of 2 uncursed potions of carrot juice                          [8s]
       uncursed potion of invisibility                                     [4s]
       heap of 2 uncursed potions of healing                               [8s]
       blessed potion of carrot juice                                      [4s]
       blessed potion of healing                                           [4s]
       uncursed potion of oil                                              [2s]
       heap of 3 potions of holy water                                    [12s]
       uncursed potion of extra healing                                    [2s]
       heap of 3 uncursed potions of cure poison                           [6s]
       uncursed potion of raw chaos                                        [2s]
       uncursed potion of insight                                          [2s]
       uncursed light blue potion                                          [2s]
       uncursed oily potion                                                [2s]
       heap of 3 blessed potions of extra healing                          [6s]
       icky potion                                                         [4s]
       rusty potion                                                        [4s]
       potion of cure poison                                               [2s]
       potion of healing                                                   [4s]
       light red potion                                                    [4s]
       potion of exchange                                                  [4s]
       potion of potential learning                                        [4s]
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       heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of dark predictions                      [4s]
       uncursed scroll of repair                                           [2s]
       uncursed scroll of power                                            [2s]
       heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of uncursing                             [4s]
       uncursed scroll of darkness                                         [2s]
       uncursed scroll of peace                                            [2s]
       heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of satiation                             [4s]
       uncursed scroll of monster detection                                [2s]
       uncursed scroll of magic mapping                                    [2s]
       blessed scroll of luck                                              [2s]
       heap of 2 cursed scrolls of identify                                [4s]
       uncursed scroll of identify                                         [2s]
       scroll labeled "ABABILA"                                            [2s]
       scroll labeled "Odiv"                                               [2s]
       heap of 2 scrolls of power                                          [4s]
       scroll labeled "KAPOW"                                              [2s]
       scroll of great identify                                            [2s]
       heap of 2 scrolls of identify                                       [4s]
    I deleted my tools, missiles, and food! Nothing special there at all. Well, I have some Giant Slaying and Dragon Slaying and Jelly Slaying arrows. Are they one shot kills on those creatures? If so, they might be handy. So far I haven't found anything except that Doppleganger King I couldn't kill with normal arrows and my weapons.

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    uncursed scroll of darkness
    This will help with the Doppleganger King.

    You will need many more than 20 creatures to go from very close to crowning. You should also uncurse your worn gear, otherwise your deity will uncurse you instead of crowning. Also, cursed ring of damage reduces the amount of damage you do. I would suggest using a phase dagger as your primary weapon at this point, given that you have nothing better.

    Slaying ammo always scores critical hits. They do lots of damage, but not one-shot-kills necessarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasher View Post
    Also, I have not found any Fireproof Blankets!
    It depends on your class, but one of the possible rewards for Thrundarr's quest to become champion of the arena is a set of magical blankets of both types, among a PoGA, scroll of familiar summoning and other goodies.

    I made it down to D:28, but I have run away cause a Doppleganger King is in the way of the stairs! I could not even hurt him! Of Course, my weapon is very very bad. My Sword of Sharpness Broke long ago! Also, he confused me over and over and over.
    Try to berserk him under darkness with your phase dagger. Dip your cursed ring of damage in a potion of holy water.

    Any reason to use that amulet of free action instead of the ankh?

    On the other hand I have found a "Tract of Balance" and I am a neutral guy, so this might help?
    I believe it only gives a little bit of piety with the neutral god.
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    Oh! I was using the Amulet of Free Action cause I thought it might stop me from being confused! Not sure.

    I think maybe I'll try to go to the High King place and get some lucky weapons!

    Is Mana Battery bad at all? It doesn't say what it does! I assume it recharges my PP! Lol, I have no spells at all but like 1 from a wand of wonder. I found 2 spellbooks earlier, but when I tried to read them they just disappeared! Right now my Literacy is at about 50, and I think it goes up by 1 when I level it up? Something like that. I wasn't intending on being a spellcaster anyways!

    D:28 has gotta be close to the fire wall right? And I'm level 19, so I think I should be okay, but remember I haven't had a guy get past level 20 yet. So I'm probably about the same strength as my others guys. I did all of Thrunderrs quests, but he didn't give me a blanket I don't think. I think he gave me an entire set of mithril armor and a mithril sword. (Helmet, belt, armor, boots sword)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasher View Post
    Oh! I was using the Amulet of Free Action cause I thought it might stop me from being confused! Not sure.
    Free action means resistance to paralysis. For confusion, the ankh is actually much better because positive Luck is taken into consideration to check if your PC manages to resist it or not.

    I think maybe I'll try to go to the High King place and get some lucky weapons!
    I was going to suggest raiding the water dragon's cave since you have a ring of the fish and a pot of invisibility, but it appears the same can't be said of a waterproof blanket.

    Is Mana Battery bad at all? It doesn't say what it does! I assume it recharges my PP! Lol, I have no spells at all but like 1 from a wand of wonder. I found 2 spellbooks earlier, but when I tried to read them they just disappeared! Right now my Literacy is at about 50, and I think it goes up by 1 when I level it up? Something like that. I wasn't intending on being a spellcaster anyways!
    Mana battery absorbs all charges in wands and gives you a tiny bit of max PP depending on their B/U/C status. This is pretty undesirable for a fighter, since it robs you from being able to zap wands as a complement to your melee abilities.

    I did all of Thrunderrs quests, but he didn't give me a blanket I don't think. I think he gave me an entire set of mithril armor and a mithril sword. (Helmet, belt, armor, boots sword)
    Ah, yes, that's the other set of items you can get as a reward.
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