1.2.0pre7 Discovery Notes

[Stingray1]

I couldn't kill ACW. Throwing potions (cure corruption,wonder), wand of paralyzation. Nothing worked. Tried frost bolt and melee with poisoned hands. Poisoned Dragon slaying arrows. Had it panic a million times. It regenerates very fast now.

[Arbot]

Appearently whatever formula determines ME starting health also causes Hardy and very Hardy to give reduced effect.

Just started a ME healer with 15 to and hardy+very hardy and only had 13 health. I wonder if this is a bug or working as intended

[PelfElf]

I couldn't kill ACW. Throwing potions (cure corruption,wonder), wand of paralyzation. Nothing worked. Tried frost bolt and melee with poisoned hands. Poisoned Dragon slaying arrows. Had it panic a million times. It regenerates very fast now.

Huh, I just killed the ACW with two dragonslaying arrows (i do have Sun's Messenger) and then repeated frost bolting (i'm a wizard)-only took like 5-6 bolts.

[SirTheta]

Mobius: correct. I think I still have that svg; I'll check intrinsics before/after. Sadly, I completely forgot to test ASB & Yulgash, hopefully i remember for Nuurgy.
edit: looks like nothing on the intrinsic front. I thought we had a discussion about not making stat gains limited by potentials, since that negates the whole attractiveness [I mean, you're getting seriously corrupted here!], but I guess that didn't get implemented. Odd result above, btw, are due to corruptions on Mist Elves, I'm pretty sure (-x Wi, +x St, +x To, +x Dx, +x Ma). So, looks like ACW does nothing for most people...

JS: that was possible in 1.1.1, but quite rare; I have also noticed it is much more frequent now. Makes things very interesting.

Stingray1: I killed ACW with a cursed potion of invisibility and my bare hands on a level 18 beastfighter. He's definitely not that bad. [and I picked up disease-ridden flesh, which is like -6 To and dropped my HP to a mere 99, during the fight]

Arbot: doh, you're totally correct; I meant to report that as a bug....doing that now.

[SirTheta]

before blessed chaos archmage:

 --------- Attribute Scores ---------     ---- Miscellaneous Data ----
  Attribute   Cur  Max  Tmp  Spc  Tot      Speed: 147 (fast)
  Strength     24   24       -4    20      Money: 0 gold pieces
  Learning     21   44       +2    23      Debts: none
  Willpower    15   18       -2    13      Deity: Balance
  Dexterity    30   36       +6    36      Time : 0y, 110d, 20h, 4m, 6s
  Toughness    18   23       +6    24      Birth: 284/Candle
  Charisma     12   12       -11    1      Month: 7/Sword
  Appearance   29   48       -14   15      Day  : 21/201: Threeweek
  Mana         19   43       +2    21      Moon : Waning
  Perception   24   29       -12   12      Age  : 7884/7922 years

after:

 --------- Attribute Scores ---------     ---- Miscellaneous Data ----
  Attribute   Cur  Max  Tmp  Spc  Tot      Speed: 136 (fast)
  Strength     24   24       -2    22      Money: 0 gold pieces
  Learning     21   44       +10   31      Debts: none
  Willpower    15   18       -4    11      Deity: Balance
  Dexterity    30   36       +4    34      Time : 0y, 110d, 20h, 6m, 45s
  Toughness    18   23       +2    20      Birth: 284/Candle
  Charisma     12   12       -11    1      Month: 7/Sword
  Appearance   29   48       -25    4      Day  : 21/201: Threeweek
  Mana         24   43       +4    28      Moon : Waning
  Perception   24   29       -16    8      Age  : 7884/7922 years

corruptions:

A - You thrive on the flesh of Order.
B - You have become very light (1/10 weight, St: -6, Dx: +4, To: -6, Ap: -6,
+20 speed).
C - You exhale sulphur (Ch: -4).
D - Your eyes are shrouded by the mists of ChAoS (Pe: -10).
E - Poison drips from your hands.
F - You are surrounded by an unholy aura (Ch: -10, DV: +6).
^ before ----- after v
G - You are a living mana battery.
H - Your blood is freezingly cold (Dx: -2, Ap: -1, -10 speed).
I - You hate the sun and try to blot it.
J - You sport a babbling mouth on your forehead that rants and raves dark
secrets (Le: +8, Ch: -6, Ap: -6, Pe: -4, stealth impossible).
K - Your bones are made from bronze (Dx: -2, DV: -2, PV: +3).
L - Your flesh continually spouts disease-ridden maggots (To: -6, Ch: -2, Ap:
-4, DV: +4).

looks like a +3 or so Ma. doesn't look like anything on the intrinsic front. shocking conclusion: none of the guardians are even remotely worth eating.

[Stingray1]

Both Mist elves and Ratling don't have to eat much, am I correct? It almost feels broken?

[SirTheta]

Correct. Doesn't really feel broken--in fact, atm, it's more annoying than anything.

[Stingray1]

I'm on day 12 and still have the 7 rations I bought in Terinyo? The first 8 days I walked around Very Strained.

[SirTheta]

Yep. [I don't know about ratlings, but] Mist elves consume food very, very slowly. I once had to walk around in the wilderness Strained! for 10 days to get from bloated [from potential toughness potion] to Satiated...

[Stingray1]

Yep. [I don't know about ratlings, but] Mist elves consume food very, very slowly. I once had to walk around in the wilderness Strained! for 10 days to get from bloated [from potential toughness potion] to Satiated...

Shouldn't we file a bug report, because it affects both new races. Maybe TB did make some mistake, but if we don't tell him?