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    Default A little extra guidance please.

    I have yet to win a game of ADOM.. I think this could be the guy. Can anyone tell me
    if they think I am ready for D:50 or if I should level up some more or maybe get
    some more equipment or raise my stats some more?. what should I use my wish on?
    I just cleared a greater undead vault and the bug temple Have not gone much further
    down past the temple with the master summoner.
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    Character Information
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    Dritz St:34 Le:23 Wi:25 Dx:25 To:23 Ch:10 Ap:13 Ma:12 Pe:37 L+
    DV/PV: 95/40 H: 431(431) P: 122(122) Exp: 33/7824757 M: 159886
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    Background Information
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    Name: Dritz Race: male Dark Elf Class: Ranger
    Star sign: Cup Birthday: 28/Cup (day 268 of the year)
    (On the night I was born my long lost brother showed up again)
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    Weapon Skills
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    Pole arms 14 +18 +11 +20 Mastery 10087
    Bows 9 +18 +13 +3 excellent 320
    Crossbows 8 +16 +12 +2 excellent 27
    Shields 8 +16 excellent 226
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    Spells
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    Acid Bolt : 3, 29pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Burning Hands : 336, 8pp (Effectivity: +2)
    Calm Monster : 190, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Cure Critical Wounds: 259, 15pp (Effectivity: +1)
    Cure Light Wounds : 236, 5pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Darkness : 786, 4pp (Effectivity: +2)
    Death Ray : 11, 189pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Farsight : 570, 17pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Fire Bolt : 194, 10pp (Effectivity: +3)
    Frost Bolt : 588, 11pp (Effectivity: +5)
    Identify : 279, 75pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Improved Fireball : 12, 56pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Invisibility : 191, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Knock : 382, 12pp (Effectivity: +1)
    Light : 778, 3pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Lightning Bolt : 250, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Magic Lock : 680, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Magic Missile : 994, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Mystic Shovel : 198, 100pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Revelation : 166, 33pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Scare Monster : 254, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Slow Monster : 801, 7pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Slow Poison : 193, 6pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Strength of Atlas : 17, 18pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Stun Ray : 761, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Summon Monsters : 113, 30pp (Effectivity: +0)
    Teleportation : 799, 21pp (Effectivity: +5)
    Web : 6, 23pp (Effectivity: +0)
    I found a spell book shop in CoC
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    Skills
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    Alertness ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
    Archery ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
    Athletics ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+1d5]
    Climbing .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Courage ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
    Dodge ....................100 (superb) [+1d5]
    Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+1d5]
    First aid ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
    Food preservation ........100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Haggling ................. 77 (great) [+2d4]
    Healing ..................100 (superb) [+1d5]
    Herbalism ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Listening ................100 (superb) [+3d4]
    Literacy .................100 (superb) [+1]
    Smithing ................. 59 (good) [+1d5]
    Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Survival .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Swimming .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
    Tactics .................. 87 (great) [+1]
    Two weapon combat ........100 (superb) [+2d4]
    Woodcraft ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
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    Effects of Corruption
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    You have grown a total of 12 eyes (Ap: -6, Pe: +6).
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    Inventory
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    Head : blessed crown of regeneration [+0, +3] [55s]
    Neck : uncursed amulet of health [3s]
    Body : blessed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5} [60s]
    Girdle : blessed girdle of carrying [+2, +0] [15s]
    Cloak : uncursed light cloak [+4, +0] [20s]
    Right Hand : blessed ebony spear "Bugbiter" (+3, 4d7+3) [+1, +1] {Dx+3}
    Left Hand : uncursed tower crystal shield (-2) [+14, +5] [260s]
    Right Ring : blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
    Left Ring : uncursed ring of immunity [1s]
    Bracers : blessed rusty bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd) [10s]
    Gauntlets : uncursed iron gauntlets "Ironfist" (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7}
    Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +5] [30s]
    Missile weapon: uncursed heavy crossbow "The Far Slayer" (+18, +18) [350s]
    Missiles : uncursed obsidian quarrel "Thunderstroke" (+8, 20d4+8) [2s]
    Tool : uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10} [100s]
    Is this the equipment I should be using?
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    Stuff
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    uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
    blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
    uncursed necklace of rapid healing [2s]
    uncursed long bow of accuracy (+10, +5) [30s]
    bundle of 8 cursed quarrels of construct slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [32s]
    bundle of 4 blessed quarrels of humanoid slaying (+2, 2d6+3) [16s]
    bundle of 6 blessed quarrels of humanoid slaying (+2, 2d6+3) (p) [24s]
    bundle of 9 uncursed arrows of demon slaying (+0, 1d6+3) [18s]
    bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+5) [20s]
    bundle of 7 uncursed arrows of construct slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [14s]
    bundle of 5 uncursed arrows of giant slaying (+3, 1d10+3) [10s]
    bundle of 17 blessed arrows of darkness (+1, 1d6) [34s]
    bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels of giant slaying (+5, 2d8+3) [20s]
    bundle of 7 uncursed quarrels of dragon slaying (+4, 2d6+4) [28s]
    bundle of 6 uncursed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+6) [12s]
    bundle of 7 cursed arrows of dragon slaying (+3, 1d6+5) [14s]
    bundle of 7 blessed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [28s]
    bundle of 12 cursed winged quarrels of slaying (+1, 2d6+1) [24s]
    uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10} [100s]
    uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Air {Dx+10} [100s]
    uncursed ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd) [1s]
    uncursed ring of slaying (+9 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
    uncursed ring of slaying (+7 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
    uncursed ring of djinni summoning [1s]
    uncursed ring of invisibility [1s]
    uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
    uncursed wand of teleportation (4 charges) [4s]
    uncursed wand of poison (0 charges) [3s]
    uncursed wand of death (0 charges) [3s]
    uncursed wand of earthquakes (1 charge) [3s]
    uncursed wand of acid (2 charges) [4s]
    cursed wand of fireballs (10 charges) [3s]
    cursed wand of door creation (100 charges) [3s]
    cursed wand of teleportation (6 charges) [4s]
    heap of 2 blessed potions of extra healing [4s]
    heap of 5 potions of holy water [20s]
    heap of 4 blessed potions of booze [16s]
    heap of 3 uncursed potions of ultra healing [6s]
    heap of 5 uncursed potions of raw mana [10s]
    heap of 3 uncursed potions of booze [12s]
    heap of 2 uncursed potions of water [8s]
    cursed potion of gain attributes [4s]
    heap of 6 cursed potions of ultra healing [12s]
    heap of 5 uncursed scrolls of charging [10s]
    heap of 3 cursed scrolls of identify [6s]
    heap of 6 blessed scrolls of identify [12s]
    heap of 2 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [4s]
    heap of 186 uncursed cooked lizards [558s]
    heap of 104 blessed morgia roots [208s]
    heap of 12 cursed crystals of health [12s]
    I also have serpents bite, whirlwind, ankh, black torc, rolfs companion,
    big punch, magical writing set(2), anvil, and some ball spell books I cant seem to read.
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    Killed Monsters
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    7106 monsters perished under his attacks.
    The following monsters were vanquished:
    4 ancient blue dragons
    1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm
    1 ancient red dragon
    1 banshee
    1 black druid
    1 bone golem
    1 bunny master
    1 cat lord
    1 crime lord
    1 emperor lich
    1 frost giant jarl
    1 goodwife
    1 great blue wyrm
    1 lich
    12 lich kings
    19 master liches
    1 master necromancer
    1 Master Summoner
    1 mimic hivemind
    1 mummy lord
    1 Snake from Beyond
    1 undead chaos dwarven berserker
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    Achievements
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    He survived for 0 years, 134 days, 9 hours, 4 minutes and 56 seconds (159886
    turns).
    1 companion was killed during his adventures.
    He was the champion of the arena.
    He made a little water dragon very happy.
    He stopped the generation of nasty bugs.

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    Doesn't look too bad to me, still there's maybe a couple of things that you could still increase:
    - you can still train your toughness by some points with morgia
    - definitely bless and drink the potion of gain attributes
    - that amulet of health is not very good. As far as I know it just helps a little against sickness. Necklace of Rapid Healing is definitely better, especially if you bless it... or of course the ankh, didn't see that you have it ;-)
    - guess I would maybe chose this nice ring of slaying rather than the ring of the high kings. Your resistances are fine anyway and the extra damage for your crossbow would be helpfull
    But I think you can be rather positive all in all. That's a nice char with some nice stuff! Take care in the mana temple, that one's really tricky ;-) You could save the wish for some more turns, just in case corruption could become an issue. You still have two SoCRs, that might be enough, but I can't think of anything better to wish for at the moment.
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    I'd say you are way overprepared. Only doing something stupid can kill you now (like forgetting about death ray resistance for Mana Temple )
    I'd recommend to save your wish for D50 and use it for wands of destructions if balors prove too hard to deal with.

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    You're very powerful. Put on the Ankh because it is just the best necklace there is. I'd also put on both the rings of slaying probably (depending if you are resistant to all elements already. Being immune isn't that much better). Use your ammo to kill anything remotely dangerous.
    Save the wish for D50. You should be powerful enough to clear the whole level without real danger but maybe you need it for chaos removal or wands of destruction or something else to make things convenient if they prove harder than expected.

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    Your weapon is terrible. Other than that, you have a great character. If you're strong enough to clear a greater undead vault, it's not likely that there's anything that can stop you. But it would probably be worth your while to get the rune-covered trident once you hit level 36.
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    I think you have been a victim of the polearms hype. I'm sure you came across better weapons than that. In fact, Big Punch is one. The OPness of spears shouldn't prevent you from training with other weapons if they are significantly better than the spears you have.

    That said, I agree with the others, your character is more than ready for D:50. And getting RCT for the balors is always nice.

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    Why are you guys picking on Bugbiter? It's more or less equal to a sword of sharpness plus much better weapon skill bonuses. Strength bonus and rings of slaying makes base damage redundant in the end-game. The only better things are slayers and it doesn't look he has one (until RCT). Missile capabilities and weapons make up for this anyway.

    Seriously, how on Earth is Big Punch better than Bugbiter? 8 less average base damage in exchange for an enormous DV loss?
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    I like Bugbiter. Missiles are great anyway so you shouldn't be meleeing too much at all imo. It's one of the few things that could get you killed perhaps.
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    Serpent's Bite is a slayer, and one-handed, too. I would have used that instead. But it doesn't matter that much with such rock-hard defenses while you're holding Far Slayer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    Serpent's Bite is a slayer, and one-handed, too. I would have used that instead. But it doesn't matter that much with such rock-hard defenses while you're holding Far Slayer.
    Whoops, didn't notice the dagger. It's probably a better deal on D:50, true. But as you've said - Far Slayer + Thunderstroke/slaying ammo is so much better than melee.
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