Thoughts on buffing Andor Drakon

[Carter]

Did a quick search around my wins on servers. Does this char look too scummed? Can't evaluate what stats were before they were drained (I guess somewhat higher), but this looks to be done in ~64k turns (which means she was scummed but not extensively).

224 base speed suggests a wish for speed was used.

I think that is the current key for Andor... i've tried it without a speed boost and is it a difficult fight simply because he has an absurd amount of HP.

I'd lower the HP and make his attack much more powerful so he is actually a threat. at the moment anyone who dies, dies from stat draining or corruption, not melee attacks.

[Al-Khwarizmi]

I honestly do not believe that it is possible to reach Andor Drakon without being spoiled.

And this is a problem which should be fixed IMO.

[JellySlayer]

I've done it at least once without speed that I can find. I didn't comment in my notes on the .flg about the battle being very interesting. Then again, this character apparently used Justifier for most of the fight, so it probably went a lot faster than usual. My equipment is quite mediocre, actually. Stats aren't bad, but not outrageous.

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DV/PV: 43/58   H: 829(975)    P: 0(650)      Exp: 50/29303283   ChAoS Sp: 132
Blessed Invisible Bloated Berserk

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Total weight: 4858 stones                Carrying capacity: 11475 stones

He: blessed eternium cap (+1, +1) [+0, +6]                            [28s]
Ne: uncursed amulet of light                                           [3s]
Bo: blessed red dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [+1, +13]                 [220s]
Gi: blessed girdle of strength [+0, +0] {St+4}                        [15s]
Cl: blessed cloak of defense [+4, +0]                                 [20s]
RH: blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12] {Ma+24}
LH: -
RR: blessed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage)       [1s]
LR: blessed ring of mental stability [+2, +1] {Le+1}                   [1s]
Br: blessed bracers of defense [+4, +0]                               [10s]
Ga: blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3]                     [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +3]                               [30s]
MW: -
Mi: -
Tl: -

[Carter]

I've done it at least once without speed that I can find. I didn't comment in my notes on the .flg about the battle being very interesting. Then again, this character apparently used Justifier for most of the fight, so it probably went a lot faster than usual. My equipment is quite mediocre, actually. Stats aren't bad, but not outrageous.

Assume its a paladin.

I've died twice to Andy and killed him 4 times (twice with an archmage so not really that relevant), so my ratio isn't that good - imho that is about right for that kind of battle.

The first death was with an underprepared Wizard who didn't cast spells in the battle, he died pretty quickly. Was quite unspoiled for the battle.
The other was a weapon smith who died because he just couldn't do enough damage, eventually his stats got drained and died

[Spellweaver]

I've killed him with barbarian without wish for speed.

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Meara         St:54  Le:23  Wi:31  Dx:51  To:45  Ch:16  Ap:23  Ma:48  Pe:26 N=
DV/PV: 55/67     H:1176(1176)  P:0(615)      Exp: 50/37807837   ChAoS Sp: 156
Blessed Bloated Berserk
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Total weight: 14562 stones                Carrying capacity: 20719 stones

He: blessed rustproof crown of regeneration [+0, +0]                  [55s]
Ne: blessed amulet of life saving                                      [3s]
Bo: uncursed eternium plate mail (-1, -2) [+4, +16]                  [240s]
Gi: blessed girdle of giant strength [+3, +4] {St+12}                 [30s]
Cl: blessed cloak of protection [+0, +4]                              [20s]
RH: blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12] {Ma+24}
LH: -
RR: uncursed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd)         [1s]
LR: blessed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage)       [1s]
Br: uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+6}                     [10s]
Ga: blessed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +4]                         [15s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +4]                               [30s]
MW: uncursed rustproof light crossbow of accuracy (+10, +1)           [70s]
Mi: blessed quarrel of humanoid slaying (+4, 2d6+3)                    [4s]
Tl: uncursed everburning torch [+1, +0]                               [10s]

It was a powerful barbarian though.

[Stingray1]

Andor Drakon confuses, he casts darkness he casts deathray. He deflects PoCC. I think he is =para, not 100 percent sure. He teleports when disabled. He drains stats. Among other which I don't think of right now.

This guy is pretty buff. You can't waste too many turns there, otherwise you will just be a j shortly.

Besides, he does already kill scummed stat characters controlled by spoiled, experienced players. I think the HP is fine to put the player under immense pressure to get the job done.

I remember in most all my fights against him, I was on the edge of my seat gritting my teeth to the bone.

[Spellweaver]

Andor Drakon confuses, he casts darkness he casts deathray. He deflects PoCC. I think he is =para, not 100 percent sure. He teleports when disabled. He drains stats. Among other which I don't think of right now.

This guy is pretty buff. You can't waste too many turns there, otherwise you will just be a j shortly.

Besides, he does already kill scummed stat characters controlled by spoiled, experienced players. I think the HP is fine to put the player under immense pressure to get the job done.

I remember in most all my fights against him, I was on the edge of my seat gritting my teeth to the bone.

The problem of Andor, unlike other powerful enemies, it that he never kills you fast. So, you always have time to do something to him.

[Stingray1]

The problem of Andor, unlike other powerful enemies, it that he never kills you fast. So, you always have time to do something to him.

Very few enemies in the game can kill the hero standing next to Andor fast. Maybe only the banshee.

Look Andor must be difficult, which he is. Is all I'm saying.

[JellySlayer]

He deflects PoCC. I think he is =para, not 100 percent sure.

Paralysis is a fairly common way to kill him. PoCC work fine against him and rob him of his corrupting attacks.

[Spellweaver]

Very few enemies in the game can kill the hero standing next to Andor fast. Maybe only the banshee.

Look Andor must be difficult, which he is. Is all I'm saying.

Even ancient dragons can, depending on character.