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    i am currently playing a powerhouse assassin with 60 st, 36 To, 430 hp, exp 27. i dont think nething can stop me from winning. heres the thing...after around 1.5 years of gameplay i have generated my 1st greater karmic dragon vault! And i need to do it...the question is how.
    i have executor lvl 11 shield lvl 11, wyrmlance & vanquisher lvl 2. which weapon do i use? also, i plan on using the crown of science in this fight since i am gonna get doomed neways...how bad is doomed, cursed, no luck no fate smiles? i have 45dv/56pv on berserk mode with executor, 24dv/47pv with wyrmlance on berserk.
    Please answer asap...im gonna start playing this game in around an hour.

    p.s.: i have 2 wishes and 350 magic missiles
    Last edited by divij; 03-18-2015 at 09:16 AM. Reason: p.s.

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    You can't just teleport past the vault? It sounds like you're set up pretty nicely for an end-game, so the risk might not be worth the reward.

    how bad is doomed, cursed, no luck no fate smiles?
    Very, very bad!!! Those dragons and wyrms will tear you up like a tissue if you spend a lot of time melee'ing them with cursed AND doomed. Wiki says that great karmic wyrms have 3 attacks which deal out 13-78 damage apiece; with criticals, that could be over 300 points of damage in a single round (considering your PV) of combat. And with cursed and doomed, that's not such an unlikely scenario. (And ancient karmic dragons deal out even more damage than that!)

    If there's a time to use up all your Magic Missiles, now is it. Avoid melee combat for as long as possible.

    PS: Have you got enough piety to pray away cursed and doomed, if there's no way to avoid it?
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    If you're not going for an ultra, then close the gates first. If you do, then get ToTR first. I would not consider melee as an option here.

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    I have more than enuf piety...this is the 2nd floor below the casino...i used casino money to saccc 300k to my deity...obviously, i can go around it but as i said i want to do it...however, i dont know if i want to remove dooming multiple times since the way prayer cost works is, it is exponential. neways, i have decided to do it using wyrmlance which will lvl up pretty fast neways...also i forgot to mention i have around 20 dragon slayers and food preservation on 100. so i will use missiles dragon slayers as much as possible and when they run out i will use melee.

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    A good way to maximise the use you'll get out of your dragon slaying ammo is to fire until you run out, then circle back on Coward tactics, pick them up again ... That means that dragging them one by one (or in small numbers) into a room where you can do that is a very good idea.

    How's your speed? Do you have seven league boots? That will make this tactic easier.

    Also, poison them all. From what I remember, karmic dragons aren't immune to it, and every little bit helps. And bless them all, too - I'm pretty sure blessed missiles smash less than uncursed or cursed ones.

    food preservation on 100
    Well, that's good, because as you probably know, eating karmic corpses can remove cursed and doomed and add lucky and fate smiles. So hopefully, you can get some corpses to drop, and then eat them to save your piety.
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    IIRC two wishes is worth about 40 missiles of dragon slaying, which should be enough for ancients and wyrms. The rest... just blast them with magic missile or regular ammo.

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    Annnd done...didnt take too long....i used crown of science (dooming was inevitable neways), ankh (very important for fate smiles), robes of resistance (from ice queen GGV), eternium girdle (i had GoGS, but didnt wanna risk it getting destroyed), spare cloak of protection (lost), wyrmlance (icequeen GGV), ring of slaying (+8,+6), ring of invis (crucial to minimise inventory destruction and taking fights 1v1, since no1 can see invis, not e1 wyrms), bracers of toughness (lost ), ironfist (casino, looted), eternium boots (had boots of speed and 7lb, but didnt want to risk them being destroyed), long bow, arrows of dragon slaying * 19, orb of fire/air as per requirement.
    went around the vault killing the easy monsters. then the intermediate region...finally the inner sanctum. there was 1 instance when my hp was reduced below 50, but i must say except for that i was never in too much trouble. i melled every1 np and now i am gonna goto air temple to get rid of my dooming.....yuglaash btw also summoned ancient karmic dragons and werewolf kings. but they went down easy all things said..lets hope this character win....the loot was total garbage btw modulo the potions and wands. 2 artifacts....Vanquisher and staff. but im gonna use executor for the rest of the game...ohh well, wish me 'luck'

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    Quote Originally Posted by divij View Post
    i am currently playing a powerhouse assassin with 60 st, 36 To, 430 hp, exp 27. i dont think nething can stop me from winning. heres the thing...after around 1.5 years of gameplay i have generated my 1st greater karmic dragon vault! And i need to do it...the question is how.
    i have executor lvl 11 shield lvl 11, wyrmlance & vanquisher lvl 2. which weapon do i use? also, i plan on using the crown of science in this fight since i am gonna get doomed neways...how bad is doomed, cursed, no luck no fate smiles? i have 45dv/56pv on berserk mode with executor, 24dv/47pv with wyrmlance on berserk.
    Please answer asap...im gonna start playing this game in around an hour.

    p.s.: i have 2 wishes and 350 magic missiles
    one word - ring of karmic absorbtion.

    Also, why don't you have AoTME? Go get it and then come back to kill them.

    Edit: My advice came too late .

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    Quote Originally Posted by divij View Post
    i plan on using the crown of science in this fight since i am gonna get doomed neways...
    The luck penalties of intrinsic dooming and dooming from items stack. So it does still make a difference.

    Congratulations on making it, anyway.
    You steal a scroll labelled HITME. The orc hits you.

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    hmmm...didnt know this! so i was cursed, doubly doomed, lucky, fate smiles! luckily(pardon the pun), i managed it. but ill take care next time! And i just didnt want to do the maze...it felt cumbersome! and the bug temple though assasins are the best class for that...

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