Increased Chance to Crit Stacking

[klawz]

Hi everyone,

I remember reading in an old thread that the chance to crit property on multiple items stacks (for example Grod and the Bracers of War)

Does anyone know if this is still the case?

If so has any testing been done on the actual increase in critical chance on each of the items that have the property, or is it the same quantity of bonus for each?

Thanks!

[Blank4u47]

Yes, items that increase criticals stack, in addition to the skill, but it feels to me as though getting above 50% chance is pretty impossible. The exception to the rule is two weapons that increase criticals don't stack, such as two bloody daggers.

If you want something a bit more empirical, I'd suggest you check one of the spoiler sites out there.

[_Ln_]

but it feels to me as though getting above 50% chance is pretty impossible.

Sure is. Sure isn't impossible. (sorry, mixed my negatives)

The exception to the rule is two weapons that increase criticals don't stack, such as two bloody daggers.

Why exception? You make two hits, so there are two independent calculations.

If you want something a bit more empirical, I'd suggest you check one of the spoiler sites out there.

I'll save you time:

Every source of critical chance is rolled independently until you get a crit or run out of sources. So they stack, but not additively -- you have to calculate total probability.

[Blank4u47]

Good to know! thank you for the insight! I see why my personal calculations didn't add up now. And I see your point about the two weapons, but I was thinking from the perspective of one weapon adding onto the other per hit.

[klawz]

Thanks for the replies guys so if I have my maths right (which I probably don't) an example would be:

So say:
Base chance = 5%
Find weakness = 20%
Bracers of war = 8%
AotME = 40%
Then total would be approx 58%?

I basically took a base sample of 100 hits, assumed 5 would be crits from base so carried forward 95, applied the 8% from bracers of war to that, giving 87.5 hits left to then have the 20% applied etc...

Probably a much easier way to calculate it though!

[_Ln_]

Thanks for the replies guys so if I have my maths right (which I probably don't) an example would be:

So say:
Base chance = 5%
Find weakness = 20%
Bracers of war = 8%
AotME = 40%
Then total would be approx 58%?

I basically took a base sample of 100 hits, assumed 5 would be crits from base so carried forward 95, applied the 8% from bracers of war to that, giving 87.5 hits left to then have the 20% applied etc...

Probably a much easier way to calculate it though!

Well, that's precisely what total probability should be.

[JellySlayer]

Thanks for the replies guys so if I have my maths right (which I probably don't) an example would be:

So say:
Base chance = 5%
Find weakness = 20%
Bracers of war = 8%
AotME = 40%
Then total would be approx 58%?

I basically took a base sample of 100 hits, assumed 5 would be crits from base so carried forward 95, applied the 8% from bracers of war to that, giving 87.5 hits left to then have the 20% applied etc...

Probably a much easier way to calculate it though!

The chance to not crit with those mods is 0.95*0.8*0.92*0.6 = 0.42, so the chance to crit is 1-0.42 = 0.58 = 58%

[Carter]

Don't forget you can also add ring of master cast (16%) + assassin class ability (20%)
5+20+8+40+16+20 means you can get to approx 70%.

[nanomage]

so just to clarify, If you wield two bloody daggers, will you roll two crit calculations per each attack or just one per each attack? Is the dagger in your left hand affecting your crit chance with your right?

[Blank4u47]

The bloody dagger will roll it's crit chance for itself not its companion dagger.