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    I tried invis, but it failed as usual with Waldy. It's not like I had good uses for 100k gold with dwarven trainer dead anyway.
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    how do you do the trick with the ratling rebel to get multiple blank scrolls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjkittredge View Post
    how do you do the trick with the ratling rebel to get multiple blank scrolls?
    Just chat repeatedly and plop all resulting spam in normal water?

    I actually was more interested in getting example of peace scroll for DL manipulations. Well, it's not like I plan start farming anytime soon.
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soirana View Post
    I tried invis, but it failed as usual with Waldy. It's not like I had good uses for 100k gold with dwarven trainer dead anyway.
    You'll have to first find a place to ditch all those gems. My recent experiences with shopkeepers left me with less than 20k after selling stuff to Waldy, Leggot and a random shop.
    Sure, they eventually replenish their gold reserves but it might take some time.
    "Hell is empty and all the devils are here."

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    So, in nutshell:
    grabbed high rings king, did tower, decided to go to Casino....
    Then I rembered I planned farm xp on eternal guardians, so bypassed him, checked casino (got farlsayer) and went down.
    I bypassed cat lord (thanks to the eyes of mind) and cleared couple elemental temples (used 30+ fireball wand charges in Earth temple, but I don't fancy that place anyway).

    Somwhere found necklace of eye (good) and stashed dozen tame giant boars above animated forest. Guess, I should do Frost queen stuff...
    Code:
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       #.......+.#   #....._...# #.#                         #.......#
       #/#########   ########### #.###########################.......###########
       #.#                       #.........................../......././.......#
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     #.......#             #.......#   #.#                   #.......# #.......#
     #..@....# #############.####### ###/#########           #######/# #######/#
     #.......# #.........#...#       #...........#           #..   ..#       #.#
     ###/##### #.........#.###########...........#           #.#    #        #.#
       #.#     #.....................#...........#           #.#             #.#
     ###/###   #.........###########.#...........#############.###############.#
     #.....#   #.........#         #./...............................+.....+...#
     #...<.#   #.........#         ##################################......*####
     #.....#   #.........#                                          ##.....##
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    Miarch        St:35  Le:24  Wi:21  Dx:18  To:32  Ch: 1  Ap: 2  Ma:22  Pe:10 N+
    DV/PV: 50/39   H: 272(272)    P: 139(213)    Exp: 22/3597589   D: 1   Sp: 86
    Satiated Strained M: 75876
    
    
    Daggers & knives        12   +14    +8   +4   Mastery              2495
    Axes                    11   +10    +8   +3   Mastery              1980
    Pole arms                5    +5    +2   +4   skilled              49
    Twohanded weapons        5    +4    +6   +1   skilled              82
    
    
    Bows                     7   +14   +10   +2   skilled              202
    Crossbows                4    +8    +6   +1   skilled              38
    
    Shields                 11   +22              Mastery              2849
    
    
    Right hand: +54 bonus to hit, 3d4+33 damage
    Ammunition: 13, base range: 11, +25 bonus to hit, 1d6+22 damage
    
    
       Darkness      :     3,   7pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Fire Bolt     :    12,  18pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Fireball      :     1,  39pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Invisibility  :     8,  19pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Knock         :     8,  23pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Know Alignment:     1,  19pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Light         :     7,   5pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Lightning Bolt:     2,  23pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Magic Missile :     7,  15pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Scare Monster :    10,  22pp     (Effectivity: +0)
       Web           :     5,  23pp     (Effectivity: +0)
    
    
      Athletics ................ 28    (mediocre)     [+2d4](last thing i need is speed increase)
      Backstabbing ............. 72    (great)        [+3d4]
      Bridge building .......... 23    (mediocre)     [+3d4] (mr)
      Climbing ................. 45    (fair)         [+1d3]
      Concentration ............100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      First aid ................ 54    (good)         [+1d3]
      Food preservation ........ 73    (great)        [+1]
      Gemology ................. 61    (good)         [+3d3]
      Haggling ................. 27    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
      Healing .................. 88    (great)        [+1]
      Herbalism ................ 77    (great)        [+1]
      Listening ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Literacy ................. 93    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Mining ................... 58    (good)         [+1d5]
      Music .................... 76    (great)        [+1]
      Pick pockets .............  1    (poor)         [+3d4]
      Stealth ..................100    (superb)       [+1] (guess, should visit library too, Farsight and SoA would be nice)
      Swimming ................. 33    (fair)         [+3d4]
      Tactics .................. 72    (great)        [+1]
      Two weapon combat ........ 54    (good)         [+1]
    
    
    
    
    Your legs have stretched into long, fragile stilts (Base movement cost: 750
    energy points; PV: -4; -4 kicking damage; Ap: -6).
    Your eye(s) turned black (Pe: +3).
    You rage (DV: -9, +6 melee damage)!
    You sport a babbling mouth on your forehead that rants and raves dark
    secrets (Le: +8, Ch: -6, Ap: -6, Pe: -4, stealth impossible).
    Your bones are made from bronze (Dx: -2, DV: -2, PV: +3).
    You have become extremely thin and nimble (1/2 weight, DV: +6).
    (I think most of that come through corrupting monster hits...)
    
    
    Head          : uncursed eternium cap [+0, +4]                        [28s]
    Neck          : uncursed ankh                                          [3s]
    Body          : uncursed black dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [-1, +11]  [200s]
    Girdle        : uncursed adamantium girdle [+0, +3]                   [18s]
    Cloak         : uncursed cloak of adornment (+1, -1) [+3, +0] {Ap+4}  [40s]
    Right Hand    : blessed emerald dagger "Serpent's Bite" (+3, 3d4+3) [+3, +1]
    Left Hand     : uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+13, +4]         [70s]
    Right Ring    : uncursed ring of regeneration                          [1s]
    Left Ring     : uncursed ring of regeneration                          [1s]
    Bracers       : bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4}                  [10s]
    Gauntlets     : uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3]        [10s]
    Boots         : uncursed eternium boots [+1, +5]                      [55s]
    Missile Weapon: uncursed long bow (+5, +2)                            [30s]
    Missiles      : bundle of 13 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+3)              [26s]
    Tool          : uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10}         [100s]
    
    
    
       uncursed rusty crown of fire [+1, +2]                              [65s]
       uncursed helm of water breathing [+0, +1]                          [30s]
       uncursed helm of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+2}                 [100s]
       uncursed crown of science [+4, +8] {Le+9}                          [65s]
       uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8}                    [60s]
       uncursed studded gloves [+3, +2]                                    [6s]
       heap of 2 uncursed pairs of thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1]      [30s]
       uncursed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+1, +0]                   [30s]
       uncursed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+1, +1]                   [30s]
       blessed seven league boots [+1, +3]                                [30s]
       uncursed necklace of the eye                                        [3s]
       uncursed white eternium long sword (+0, 2d8+7)                     [20s]
       uncursed whip of slaughtering (-7, 1d30)                           [15s]
       uncursed knife of endurance (+6, 1d3+6) {To+4}                      [8s]
       uncursed staff of power (+0, 1d10+3) [+1, +1] {Wi+2}               [40s]
       uncursed mild great axe (+5, 2d7+4) [-2, +0]                      [105s]
       uncursed heavy crossbow "The Far Slayer" (+18, +18)               [350s]
       uncursed long bow of hunting (+6, +3)                              [30s]
       bundle of 26 uncursed quarrels of dragon slaying (+3, 2d6+3)      [104s]
       bundle of 2 uncursed arrows and slaying (+0, 1d6)                   [4s]
       bundle of 4 uncursed quarrels of humanoid slaying (+3, 2d6+3)      [16s]
    (I hoped to get humanoid slayers from Casino...)
       blessed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10}                      [100s]
       blessed Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth {To+10}                      [100s]
       Chaos Orb of Elemental Air                                        [100s]
       blessed ring of ice                                                 [1s]
       blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3]                             [1s]
       heap of 3 uncursed rings of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage)
       uncursed ring of invisibility                                       [1s]
       heap of 2 blessed potions of extra healing                          [4s]
       heap of 4 uncursed potions of ultra healing                         [8s]
       uncursed phial of Caladriel                                         [2s]
       heap of 3 uncursed potions of boost mana                            [6s]
       uncursed potion of mana                                             [4s]
       potion of cure corruption                                           [2s]
       uncursed spellbook of Burning Hands                               [100s]
       uncursed spellbook of Lightning Bolt                              [100s]
       uncursed spellbook of Magic Missile                               [100s]
       uncursed spellbook of Magic Missile                               [100s]
       uncursed tract of order                                           [250s]
    (potentially useful to try install mana battery)
       uncursed spellbook of Teleportation                               [100s]
       uncursed spellbook of Web                                         [100s]
    
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                                   Killed Monsters
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    4065 monsters perished under her attacks.
         13 molochs (got two armors now)
    
    Dispatched the legendary black wizard Alcazar the Mad.
    (lots of fire bolts from his side)
    
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                                    Achievements
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    She survived for 0 years, 76 days, 0 hours, 30 minutes and 54 seconds (75876
    turns).
    2 companions were killed during her adventures.
    (maggots from corruption)
    Miarch visited 96 places.
    Her strength score was modified by -1 during her career.
    Her learning score was modified by +5 during her career.
    Her willpower score was modified by +8 during her career.
    Her dexterity score was modified by +5 during her career.
    Her toughness score was modified by +2 during her career.
    Her charisma score was modified by +1 during her career.
    Her appearance score was modified by +2 during her career.
    Her mana score was modified by +11 during her career.
    (bookcsting mostly)
    Her perception score was modified by +2 during her career.
    She was the champion of the arena.
    She saved Khelavaster from certain death.
    
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                                   Playing Time
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    You played for 11 hours, 5 minutes and 22 seconds.
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    Well, reaching library will be a problem with climbing g at 50...
    Luckily, I can use that stupid wand to cover for any stuff I feel I need for, thus I started leveling on the eternal guardians using 7lb and stilts to kite.

    They give 0.5mil xp each, but for troll it is still long way...
    p.s. got these stupid caster talents (had to boost perception before hitting lv30...)
    Code:
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       #...../...%................./.....# #...........#
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       #.....# #.#                 #.....# #.........../.............../.....#
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             #.....#     #.......#                  #.#      #.......# #.....#
     #########.###/###   #.......#                  #.########.####### #######
     #.......#.#.....#   #.......#                  #........#.#
     #.....<.#.#.....#####.......####################........#.#     ###########
     #......./.#...../...+......./.../..[....................+.#     #.........#
     ###################.#...........(.[....*.*..............#####   #.........#
                   #.....#..........################.........+...#   #.........#
           #########.#############.*################..##########.#####.........#
           #......./.#           #........[...........#        #.....*.........#
           #.......###           #...@.@........./....#        #######.........#
           #.......#             #./....[./..##########              #.........#
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    Miarch        St:42  Le:24  Wi:24  Dx:19  To:32  Ch: 1  Ap: 1  Ma:27  Pe:11 C-
    DV/PV: 55/29   H: 372(372)    P: 347(347)    Exp: 30/12640740  D: 29  Sp: 102
    
       scorched spear                                                     [50s]
       uncursed wand of wishing (5 charges)                                [3s]
    
    Gravedigging...
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    Okay, so got the mana orb and levels...

    Code:
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                                Character Information
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    Miarch    St:41  Le:47  Wi:31  Dx:27  To:31  Ch: 3  Ap: 1  Ma:42  Pe: 7  N=
    DV/PV: 51/17   H: 644(644)   P: 356(1009)   Exp: 50/52352561   M: 115016
    
    
    
    Head          : uncursed helm of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+2}    [100s]
    Neck          : uncursed amulet of free action                         [3s]
    Body          : uncursed mithril ring mail (-1, -1) [-1, +6]         [240s]
    Girdle        : blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0]                   [15s]
    Cloak         : uncursed leather cloak (-1, +0) [+1, +0]              [40s]
    Right Hand    : blessed eternium broadsword of penetration (+1, 2d7+9)[38s]
    Left Hand     : uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+13, +4]         [70s]
    Right Ring    : uncursed ring of regeneration                          [1s]
    Left Ring     : uncursed ring of regeneration                          [1s]
    Bracers       : uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+7}         [10s]
    Gauntlets     : uncursed red dragon-hide gauntlets (-2, +0) [+2, +2]  [10s]
    Boots         : blessed seven league boots [+1, +3]                   [30s]
    Missile Weapon: uncursed long bow (+5, +2)                            [30s]
    Missiles      : bundle of 5 uncursed mithril arrows (+3, 1d6+3)       [10s]
    Tool          : uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10}         [100s]
    Bad thing I presumably entered unicorn glade while chaotic and later allignment changed still keep horsey pissed.
    Being on O on corruption list is bad but delable, but these literally killed my perception score...

    Also one of molochs runaway with rune-covered trident(I think he should be ctachable in wilderness although). I had to finish fuckers with mindcraft.

    Things trolls do for xp....
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    6059 monsters perished under her attacks.
         45 eternal guardians
         21 greater fire elementals
         80 greater molochs
    
    
    Dispatched the legendary frost giant Fiyr.
    Dispatched the legendary wererat Sir Niveous Frost.
    Dispatched the legendary black wizard Alcazar the Mad.
    ~d46 there is greter undead vault with hwta looks a lot like Thunderstroke. Pretty sure I do not want to attempt getting it with troll.
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    Nice weapon thru
    Closed Gate with: Orc Barbarian, Orc Paladin
    Ultra'd with: Gnome Weaponsmith (L+)

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    Well, I managed to find that moloch as 'friendly' encounter. I chosed to allow him follow, entered location and got by trident back....

    So, about time to make looting plan. My basic idea is to replicate banshee vs animated forest. Well, banshee does not work on plants anymore, so it will be replaced by boars (fast, strong, don't see invisible, don't smash doors).

    I presume that some of them will go rogue, but that just turns them neutral and they can be retamed (and likely will fight hostile trees - I plan agravate forest by using fire magic).

    Since I have no intention to control them, I think dropping speed is a must (lower speed, more boar cation per turn, more loot). ideally, I will be able to supress messages and w5 (with custom set longish persistance).

    Check on stuff:
    Boars - 12 above AF, might need more we will see how it goes.

    Speed lowering -- moloch armour, boots of slow shuffle, bookcasted slow monster, bloated.

    Sight improvement (boars should be more in check if I see them, but that likely reduces spawn rate of trees, so will need to optimize) - necklace of eye, everburning torch, farsight (managed to read wished for spellbook, surprisingly).

    Safety meassures - I'llprobably wish for AoLS just in case, should also try to hunt queens stalkers, drink pools for perm invisibility once boars are in place.

    DL - manipulation, have both smaple of danger and peace scrolls and two writing sets. I think just killing DL down to 1 and eventually recycling potions at D3 (to get some pots of wonder, to obtain knowledge of wish).

    Mana battery: I have two wishes left, probably gonna use one for tomes of order, as these would give me most chances to recycle corruptions (wish is probably worth around 10 tries?)...

    PP - I am close to 1k now, PoGA's (from loot and chaos alchemy) will push another few hundred easily. After that wand drain I guess. In theory blessed scrolls/crystals of power can improve PP too.
    Last edited by Soirana; 05-28-2016 at 01:40 PM.
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    I'm surprised your troll only has 644 HP, even with just 31 toughness.
    I expected a higher number; my gray elf had more than 700 at around 35 toughness.
    "Hell is empty and all the devils are here."

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