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Thread: DrMo (Lithium Man, unarmed, true monk)

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    Default DrMo (Lithium Man, unarmed, true monk)

    I’m currently running a male drakeling monk of the Tree with the following restrictions: Lithium Man; must be a true monk (correct armor, unarmed, unburdened); can’t carry more than 1020 stones for more than 1 turn; no additional offense except for Thrundarr’s wand of fireballs (no recharging) and unconventional non-weapons (potions).

    I’ve finally gotten this challenge past the “drain all pools and die immediately” stage of character development, mostly because the first pool I drained gave me +Invis and then dried up.

    Currently on board is +Invis, +TCtrl, +Pois, =Ice, and likely +Fire. The early +Invis has made things easy, but has locked me out of Tactics, a much easier crowning, and an easy way to move Thrundarr off the lever. I recently decided to drain the second pool I found, only to be hit with a +Doom—swiftly resulting in the destruction of my blessed 7LBs (luckily the RNG blessed me with two whole pairs). On the bright side, I just finished grinding for a crowning (Iron Crown of Havlor, =Ice, -Doom, -Curse).

    My next steps are to move Thrundarr of the lever, finish clearing the Graveyard, and clear the Water Temple—hopefully finding a wand of teleportation and decent body armor along the way.

    Any data points on whether drakeling spit is still bugged with regards to moving Thrundarr off the lever w/o angering DT (R69) (edit: nope, at least, not when it kills him!)? Does Darkforge count as part of the Caverns of Chaos for Lithium Man?

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                                Character Information
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    Red    St:25  Le:15  Wi:25  Dx:19  To:30  Ch: 8  Ap: 8  Ma:10  Pe:14  N=
    DV/PV: 64/32   H: 189(204)   P: 57(57)   Exp: 14/177379   M: 19849
    
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                                    Weapon Skills
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    Melee weapon           Lvl   Hit   Dam   DV   Level          Required marks
    ---------------------  ---   ---   ---   --   -------------  --------------
    Unarmed fighting         9    +6    +4   +3   excellent            715
    
    Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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    Right hand: +16 bonus to hit, 1d22+12 damage
    
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                                       Skills
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      Alertness ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Athletics ................ 94    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Climbing ................. 35    (fair)         [+3d4]
      Concentration ............ 38    (fair)         [+4d5]
      Dodge .................... 37    (fair)         [+3d5]
      Find weakness ............ 80    (great)        [+1d3]
      First aid ................ 58    (good)         [+4d4]
      Food preservation ........ 90    (great)        [+2d4]
      Haggling ................. 27    (mediocre)     [+3d4]
      Healing .................. 94    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Listening ................ 64    (good)         [+3d4]
      Literacy .................100    (superb)       [+1d5]
      Music ....................  7    (poor)         [+4d5]
      Stealth .................. 57    (good)         [+3d3]
      Swimming ................. 53    (good)         [+2d4]
    
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                                      Inventory
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    Total weight: 745 stones                Carrying capacity: 3375 stones
    
    Head          : blessed Iron Crown of Havlor (-6, -6) [+12, +12] {Le+4}[65s]
    Neck          : plain amulet of protection +4                          [3s]
    Body          : -
    Girdle        : plain adamantium girdle [+0, +3]                      [18s]
    Cloak         : -
    Right Hand    : -
    Left Hand     : -
    Right Ring    : blessed ring of damage                                 [1s]
    Left Ring     : blessed ring of fire resistance                        [1s]
    Bracers       : blessed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+6}          [10s]
    Gauntlets     : plain white dragon-hide gauntlets (-2, +0) [+0, +4]   [10s]
    Boots         : blessed seven league boots [+1, +0]                   [30s]
    Missile Weapon: -
    Missiles      : -
    Tool          : -
    
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                                        Stuff
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    Total weight: 607 stones   Carrying capacity: 3375 stones
    
    Gauntlets ('[')
       plain thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1]                            [15s]
    Necklaces (''')
       plain amulet of free action                                         [3s]
       plain amulet of protection +2                                       [3s]
       plain necklace of the eye                                           [3s]
    Tools (']')
       plain broken triangular key                                         [1s]
       blessed round key                                                   [1s]
       heap of 2 plain torches                                            [20s]
       plain tiny key                                                      [1s]
    Rings ('=')
       plain ring of cold resistance                                       [1s]
       plain ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd)                               [1s]
       blessed ring of damage                                              [1s]
       plain ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1}                      [1s]
       plain ring of ice                                                   [1s]
    Wands ('\')
       plain wand of digging (4 charges)                                   [3s]
       plain wand of stunning (3 charges)                                  [3s]
       plain wand of door creation (0 charges)                             [3s]
       blessed wand of fireballs (10 charges)                              [3s]
       plain wand of door creation (3 charges)                             [3s]
       plain wand of trap detection (2 charges)                            [3s]
       plain wand of digging (4 charges)                                   [3s]
       cursed wand of trap creation (7 charges)                            [3s]
       plain wand of trap detection (5 charges)                            [3s]
       plain wand of item detection (4 charges)                            [3s]
       plain wand of trap detection (1 charge)                             [3s]
    Potions ('!')
       plain potion of raw mana                                            [2s]
       heap of 5 plain potions of cure poison                             [10s]
       heap of 2 potions of unholy water                                   [8s]
       heap of 4 plain potions of invisibility                            [16s]
       heap of 2 plain potions of healing                                  [8s]
       heap of 2 plain potions of carrot juice                             [8s]
       plain potion of boost strength                                      [2s]
       plain potion of boost dexterity                                     [2s]
       heap of 2 plain potions of extra healing                            [4s]
       blessed potion of invisibility                                      [4s]
       blessed potion of cure poison                                       [2s]
       heap of 2 blessed potions of booze                                  [8s]
       plain potion of uselessness                                         [2s]
    Scrolls ('?')
       heap of 2 plain scrolls of identify                                 [4s]
       plain scroll of treasure creation                                   [2s]
       plain scroll of uncursing                                           [2s]
       plain scroll of defense                                             [2s]
       plain scroll of monster detection                                   [2s]
       blessed scroll of peace                                             [2s]
       heap of 2 blessed scrolls of identify                               [4s]
       heap of 2 plain scrolls of power                                    [4s]
       plain papyrus scroll                                                [2s]
       plain scroll of familiar summoning                                  [2s]
       plain scroll of dark predictions                                    [2s]
       plain scroll of charging                                            [2s]
       plain scroll of increase melee damage                               [2s]
    Books ('"')
       plain spellbook of Stun Ray                                       [100s]
       cursed spellbook of Remove Curse                                  [100s]
    Food ('%')
       blessed loaf of hurthling bread                                    [30s]
       plain loaf of hurthling bread                                      [30s]
       heap of 4 plain spenseweeds                                         [8s]
       heap of 5 plain curaria mancox herbs                               [10s]
       heap of 2 plain alraunia antidotes                                  [4s]
       heap of 5 plain lumps of beeswax                                   [25s]
       plain lump of gelee royal                                           [3s]
       heap of 2 plain stomacemptia herbs                                  [4s]
       heap of 2 cursed curaria mancox herbs                               [4s]
       heap of 2 cursed alraunia antidotes                                 [4s]
       plain melon                                                        [20s]
       plain dwarven sausage                                              [20s]
       heap of 7 cursed stomacemptia herbs                                [14s]
       heap of 8 cursed stomafillia herbs                                 [16s]
    Valuables ('$')
       2260 gold pieces                                                   [22s]
    
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                                    Achievements
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    He survived for 0 years, 7 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes and 26 seconds (19849
    turns).
    1 companion was killed during his adventures.
    Red visited 23 places.
    His strength score was modified by +4 during his career.
    His learning score was modified by +4 during his career.
    His willpower score was modified by +3 during his career.
    His dexterity score was modified by +6 during his career.
    His toughness score was modified by +1 during his career.
    His charisma score was modified by +3 during his career.
    His appearance score was modified by +2 during his career.
    His mana score was modified by +1 during his career.
    His perception score was modified by +1 during his career.
    He was unnaturally aged by 17 years.
    
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    Ancient Domains Of Mystery
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    Windows Deluxe (Steam) Build: Sep 3 2016 20:37:09
    Last edited by SirTheta; 09-09-2016 at 11:59 PM.
    gate closers: GeWi GnMo(unarmed) DeAs/Pa/Mi(staves)/Ra GePr DrBb HrMo | p7: MeBf | p17: GnPr | p20: DrDu GnAs DeCk MeWp OrBf GnTh MeHe | R57: MeDu | R101: DrAs (26,674 turns) GnDu (26,748) DrAs (18,533)
    ULE: HeRa — OCG: DeMi
    currently speedrunning DrAs.

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    Obtained water orb, picked up mana battery (gods frak it), dove to wall of flames; contemplating feasibility of TOEF run—need to up my first aid (61 of 100) first. Likely need to clear some threat rooms in the mid-COC.
    Code:
    Red    St:27  Le:15  Wi:35  Dx:20  To:31  Ch: 8  Ap: 9  Ma:10  Pe:14  N-
    DV/PV: 34/33   H: 243(243)   P: 80(80)   Exp: 17/446425   M: 28476
    gate closers: GeWi GnMo(unarmed) DeAs/Pa/Mi(staves)/Ra GePr DrBb HrMo | p7: MeBf | p17: GnPr | p20: DrDu GnAs DeCk MeWp OrBf GnTh MeHe | R57: MeDu | R101: DrAs (26,674 turns) GnDu (26,748) DrAs (18,533)
    ULE: HeRa — OCG: DeMi
    currently speedrunning DrAs.

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    FYI, mummy wrapping now makes you visible. Have fun at the arena again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTheta View Post
    Does Darkforge count as part of the Caverns of Chaos for Lithium Man?
    No. upon latest specifications DH and Ogre Cave do not count either.
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soirana View Post
    No. upon latest specifications DH and Ogre Cave do not count either.
    Oh, I should specify that I'm not intending to go for the achievement—I meant more in the classic sense of Lithium Man (also: that doesn't make any sense!).
    gate closers: GeWi GnMo(unarmed) DeAs/Pa/Mi(staves)/Ra GePr DrBb HrMo | p7: MeBf | p17: GnPr | p20: DrDu GnAs DeCk MeWp OrBf GnTh MeHe | R57: MeDu | R101: DrAs (26,674 turns) GnDu (26,748) DrAs (18,533)
    ULE: HeRa — OCG: DeMi
    currently speedrunning DrAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTheta View Post
    Oh, I should specify that I'm not intending to go for the achievement—I meant more in the classic sense of Lithium Man (also: that doesn't make any sense!).
    If you def in e Lithium as least number of dungeon floors visited, it does make sense.

    In 'classic sense' DF is of limits, there are plenty of crying stories of guys choosing wrong staircase...
    So far rolled 15 casters with RoDS and shamelessly killed them within 200 turns. For eternium glory!
    (after 15 I stopped counting...)

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    Alright, I will avoid a Darkforge raid then. Though I can't see how choosing the wrong staircase would void Lithium Man in the classic sense, given that it's a 50/50 shot per game.

    The way the Lithium Man is conventionally defined is only visiting the Caverns of Chaos -- the alternate definition strikes me as far too chance based to make sense as an achievement. Excluding DH and Darkforge by such a definition means you have a 75% chance of completely voiding your game, which you had to have started with the specific intent of getting Lithium Man. That would be a very bad definition for an achievement.

    I don't know, it strikes me as weird to say that things that are unarguably part of the Caverns of Chaos (Ogre Cave, Dwarven Halls) don't count towards Lithium Man.
    Last edited by SirTheta; 09-10-2016 at 06:46 PM.
    gate closers: GeWi GnMo(unarmed) DeAs/Pa/Mi(staves)/Ra GePr DrBb HrMo | p7: MeBf | p17: GnPr | p20: DrDu GnAs DeCk MeWp OrBf GnTh MeHe | R57: MeDu | R101: DrAs (26,674 turns) GnDu (26,748) DrAs (18,533)
    ULE: HeRa — OCG: DeMi
    currently speedrunning DrAs.

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    I'm confused. If you bypass the EG, aren't you forced to leave the CoC through Darkforge after closing the gate?
    You steal a scroll labelled HITME. The orc hits you.

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    I'm pretty sure you can go back up. It's just a new EG will block the stairs after you get off of them, IIRC.
    Hoping to win with every class, doomed. Archer, Barbarian, Bard, Beastfighter, Druid, Elementalist, Farmer, Fighter, Monk, and ULE Priest down.

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    Cleared a giant slug threat room and managed to get =Acid. Scummed it up in DH:1 to get to xl 19 (Immune to Pain at xl 18). Have 100 First Aid, definitely -Fire, found some elven chain mail (WOOOO!), many giant corpses (yummy St), eternium boots (WOO!), some potions of youth (only 28 now!), POGA, and other miscellaneous things. Unfortunately, a water trap destroyed my scrolls of uncursing, which I will need before hitting TOEF (I got super excited about an emerald ring and equipped it without looking – oops). Looks like I'll be hitting TOEF with 250 HP, xx/40—enough to get out alive or enough to die. It mostly depends on how much piety I'll be using with HP prayers w/ Issrecht (I've probably used about 5 at this point) (and how low I'm dumb enough to let my HP get before I used the water orb with no elemental gauntlets).

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                                Character Information
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    Red    St:31  Le:16  Wi:36  Dx:21  To:27  Ch: 9  Ap:10  Ma:11  Pe:15  N-
    DV/PV: 76/40   H: 250(250)   P: 136(136)   Exp: 19/697491   M: 36151
    
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                                    Weapon Skills
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Melee weapon           Lvl   Hit   Dam   DV   Level          Required marks
    ---------------------  ---   ---   ---   --   -------------  --------------
    Unarmed fighting        11   +10    +6   +5   Mastery              1168
    
    Damage caused with your melee weapons:
    --------------------------------------
    Right hand: +26 bonus to hit, 1d27+12 damage
    
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                                       Skills
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
      Alertness ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Athletics ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Bridge building .......... 15    (mediocre)     [+3d5] (mr)
      Climbing ................. 35    (fair)         [+3d4]
      Concentration ............ 65    (good)         [+3d5]
      Dodge .................... 66    (good)         [+2d4]
      Find weakness ............100    (superb)       [+1d3]
      First aid ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Food preservation ........100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Haggling ................. 27    (mediocre)     [+3d4]
      Healing ..................100    (superb)       [+3d3]
      Listening ................ 83    (great)        [+3d4]
      Literacy .................100    (superb)       [+1d5]
      Music ....................  7    (poor)         [+4d5]
      Stealth .................. 81    (great)        [+2d4]
      Swimming ................. 55    (good)         [+2d4]
    
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                                Effects of Corruption
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    You are a living mana battery.
    
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                                      Inventory
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total weight: 933 stones                Carrying capacity: 5175 stones
    
    Head          : blessed Iron Crown of Havlor (-6, -6) [+12, +12] {Le+4}[65s]
    Neck          : plain amulet of protection +4                          [3s]
    Body          : cursed elven chain mail of power [+0, +5]             [10s]
    Girdle        : plain eternium girdle [+0, +4]                        [12s]
    Cloak         : -
    Right Hand    : -
    Left Hand     : -
    Right Ring    : cursed ring of the clear mind                          [1s]
    Left Ring     : blessed ring of ice                                    [1s]
    Bracers       : -
    Gauntlets     : plain studded gloves [+1, +2]                          [6s]
    Boots         : plain eternium boots (+1, -1) [+0, +5]                [55s]
    Missile Weapon: -
    Missiles      : -
    Tool          : plain Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10}           [100s]
    
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                                        Stuff
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    Total weight: 680 stones   Carrying capacity: 5175 stones
    
    Gauntlets ('[')
       plain thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1]                            [15s]
       plain white dragon-hide gauntlets (-2, +0) [+0, +4]                [10s]
       plain black dragon-hide gauntlets (-1, +1) [+2, +2]                [10s]
    Cloaks ('[')
       plain cloak of adornment [+0, +3] {Ap+4}                           [40s]
    Girdles ('[')
       blessed girdle of giant strength [+0, +0] {St+12}                  [30s]
       blessed adamantium girdle [+0, +3]                                 [18s]
    Boots ('[')
       blessed seven league boots [+1, +0]                                [30s]
       plain seven league boots [+2, +0]                                  [30s]
    Necklaces (''')
       plain amulet of free action                                         [3s]
       plain rusty necklace of the eye                                     [3s]
       plain amulet of petrification resistance                            [3s]
       plain amulet of perseverance {Wi+3}                                 [3s]
    Bracers (',')
       blessed bracers of toughness [+2, +0] {To+6}                       [10s]
       plain bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd)                           [10s]
       blessed rusty bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd)                   [10s]
    One-handed weapons ('(')
       plain pick axe                                                     [75s]
    Tools (']')
       plain broken triangular key                                         [1s]
       blessed round key                                                   [1s]
       heap of 3 plain torches                                            [30s]
       plain tiny key                                                      [1s]
    Rings ('=')
       plain ring of cold resistance                                       [1s]
       blessed ring of fire resistance                                     [1s]
       plain ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd)                               [1s]
       plain ring of mental stability [+2, +1] {Le+1}                      [1s]
       heap of 2 blessed rings of damage                                   [2s]
       plain ring of stun resistance                                       [1s]
       plain ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1}                      [1s]
    Wands ('\')
       plain wand of stunning (0 charges)                                  [3s]
       plain wand of door creation (0 charges)                             [3s]
       plain wand of digging (0 charges)                                   [3s]
       plain wand of trap detection (0 charges)                            [3s]
       plain rusty wand of monster creation (0 charges)                    [3s]
       plain wand of door creation (0 charges)                             [3s]
       plain wand of trap creation (0 charges)                             [3s]
       plain wand of door creation (0 charges)                             [3s]
    Potions ('!')
       plain potion of raw mana                                            [2s]
       heap of 6 plain potions of cure poison                             [12s]
       heap of 2 potions of holy water                                     [8s]
       heap of 4 plain potions of invisibility                            [16s]
       heap of 2 plain potions of healing                                  [8s]
       heap of 4 plain potions of carrot juice                            [16s]
       plain potion of boost strength                                      [2s]
       plain potion of boost dexterity                                     [2s]
       heap of 2 plain potions of extra healing                            [4s]
       blessed potion of invisibility                                      [4s]
       blessed potion of cure poison                                       [2s]
       heap of 2 blessed potions of booze                                  [8s]
       plain potion of uselessness                                         [2s]
       plain berzio potion                                                 [2s]
       plain potion of booze                                               [4s]
       plain potion of oil                                                 [2s]
       plain oil of rust removal                                           [2s]
       blessed potion of wonder                                            [2s]
       plain potion of balance                                             [4s]
       blessed potion of youth                                             [4s]
       plain potion of boost appearance                                    [2s]
       cursed potion of invisibility                                       [4s]
       blessed purple potion                                               [4s]
    Scrolls ('?')
       plain scroll of darkness                                            [2s]
       plain scroll of power                                               [2s]
       blessed scroll of identify                                          [2s]
       plain scroll of treasure creation                                   [2s]
       plain scroll of monster detection                                   [2s]
       blessed scroll of peace                                             [2s]
       plain scroll of charging                                            [2s]
       plain scroll of increase melee damage                               [2s]
       plain scroll of great identify                                      [2s]
       plain scroll of teleportation                                       [2s]
       plain scroll of repair                                              [2s]
       blessed scroll of satiation                                         [2s]
       plain scroll of light                                               [2s]
       plain scroll labeled "MUNCH MUNCH"                                  [2s]
       blessed scroll of power                                             [2s]
    Food ('%')
       blessed loaf of hurthling bread                                    [30s]
       heap of 2 plain loaves of hurthling bread                          [60s]
       heap of 4 plain spenseweeds                                         [8s]
       heap of 9 plain curaria mancox herbs                               [18s]
       heap of 5 plain alraunia antidotes                                 [10s]
       heap of 6 plain stomacemptia herbs                                 [12s]
       heap of 8 plain stomafillia herbs                                  [16s]
       cursed loaf of elven bread                                          [3s]
    Valuables ('$')
       681 gold pieces                                                     [6s]
    Gems ('*')
       heap of 2 plain crystals of knowledge                               [2s]
       plain crystal of darkness                                           [1s]
       heap of 2 plain crystals of light                                   [2s]
       plain red gem                                                       [1s]
    
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                                    Achievements
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    He survived for 0 years, 14 days, 13 hours, 34 minutes and 42 seconds (36150
    turns).
    1 companion was killed during his adventures.
    Red visited 32 places.
    His strength score was modified by +10 during his career.
    His learning score was modified by +5 during his career.
    His willpower score was modified by +4 during his career.
    His dexterity score was modified by +8 during his career.
    His toughness score was modified by +4 during his career.
    His charisma score was modified by +4 during his career.
    His appearance score was modified by +4 during his career.
    His mana score was modified by +2 during his career.
    His perception score was modified by +2 during his career.
    He was unnaturally aged by 6 years.
    Last edited by SirTheta; 09-11-2016 at 04:07 AM.
    gate closers: GeWi GnMo(unarmed) DeAs/Pa/Mi(staves)/Ra GePr DrBb HrMo | p7: MeBf | p17: GnPr | p20: DrDu GnAs DeCk MeWp OrBf GnTh MeHe | R57: MeDu | R101: DrAs (26,674 turns) GnDu (26,748) DrAs (18,533)
    ULE: HeRa — OCG: DeMi
    currently speedrunning DrAs.

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