ADOM Ultra-Ultra Competition!

[JellySlayer]

If you have Windows 10, you can just press Windows Key + g to open a free, basic recording tool.

[ghostjghost]

If you don't have Windows 10(I don't because of all the spyware/lack of control 10 comes with)

Then I recommend OBS Studio - It is free and very easy to use.

[mtf]

If you don't have Windows 10(I don't because of all the spyware/lack of control 10 comes with)

Then I recommend OBS Studio - It is free and very easy to use.

OBS is a great choice since you can easily hook it up with a twitch stream as well.

[blunk]

The setting definitely nerfs the drops on TH very hard. You get much fewer drops with TH + reduced drops than with regular drops and no TH. Likewise, even with Miser you receive much less.

Clearly the solution is to do this systematically Running some Paladins through Big room under various conditions. I'm ignoring stuff that is obviously guaranteed drops (eg. pixie gold, thrown missiles) and floor drops.

First test: Fighting around Big Room with Dwarf Paladin. Low drops, no TH. 200 kills. Collected 20 corpses, 12 non-corpse drops total. 519 gold.
Second test: Big Room again with Gnome Paladin with TH starting talent. 200 kills. Collected 17 corpses, 16 non-corpse drops. 1074 gold.
Third test: Regular settings, no TH or miser. 200 kills, 14 corpses, 33 drops. 1171 gold.

This is all complicated by the facts of small number statistics and varying loot drop rates for monsters, but the setting approximately cuts the drop rate to approximately 1/3 of normal. Once you get TH, you're up to about half of normal drop rate and miser puts you back to about normal gold. Corpse rate seems to be around 10%.

You found a lot of gold compared to normal no TH imo with that gnome.
Did the "few item" paladins drop any items apart from those normally thrown/shot?

Have you had any pokes at dwarven graveyard, that area is often a treasure trove that can even drop stuff like dragon scales and other really nice items?

[JellySlayer]

I tried not to pick up any thrown items. Here's what I ended up with on that character, minus a couple corpses that were eaten. It's possible that the tiny quarrels, arrow, and crude knife were projectiles that I picked up, I guess.

Armor ('[')
   ugly clothes                                                       [50s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
   short sword                                                        [30s]
   whip                                                               [15s]
   scimitar                                                           [28s]
   crude knife                                                        [10s]
Missiles ('/')
   bundle of 4 drakish scurgari                                       [40s]
   bundle of 2 tiny quarrels                                           [4s]
   arrow                                                               [2s]
Wands ('\')
   brass wand                                                          [4s]
Food ('%')
   kobold shaman corpse                                               [60s]
   caveman corpse                                                    [120s]
   dwarven sausage                                                    [20s]
   kobold chieftain corpse                                            [60s]
   orc corpse                                                        [120s]
   rat corpse                                                         [30s]
   goblin slavemaster corpse                                          [60s]
   giant rat corpse                                                   [60s]
Valuables ('$')
   519 gold pieces                                                     [5s]
Gems ('*')
   green gem                                                           [1s]

My archer has cleared the top level of the Griffyard. I don't recall finding anything good there.

[blunk]

I tried not to pick up any thrown items. Here's what I ended up with on that character, minus a couple corpses that were eaten. It's possible that the tiny quarrels, arrow, and crude knife were projectiles that I picked up, I guess.

My archer has cleared the top level of the Griffyard. I don't recall finding anything good there.

I'm starting to suspect it's less than 1/3, feels like so atleast if ugly clothes is the single item of armour dropped from 200 mobs.

Otoh current normal game with TH feels like I'm drowning in stuff

[Soirana]

My archer has cleared the top level of the Griffyard. I don't recall finding anything good there.

Care to post the videos?

[JellySlayer]

Part 1
Part 2

Haven't had the time to go farther yet.

Hmm... I think I'm missing a clip?

Oh well, died anyway.
Part 3 (dead)

[AlterAsc]

Tried DE beastfighter (intention was to kill Andy as C- via throwing TotRR and getting OCG). Unfortunately my starting armor broke after getting to DT and no other armor dropped and i got offed by a mimic on D:5.

[Soirana]

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Oh well, died anyway.

Lower griffyard with no tp control and that HP/Pv... was optimistic...

After glimpsing videos I suspect mindcrafter might not be that good choice