Originally Posted by
Phoobnahr
there has been a fairly extensive discussion about the xp curve in the "tackling the new quests and maps for ADOM" thread stickied at the top of the page. The general consensus is that some of the very experienced players here tend to not fully explore the levels of the lower CoC and as a result are walking into D:50 fairly substantially below level 50... I had the same experience as you, reaching level 50 just before or just after entering D50, but our experience is clearly not universal. The opinion that XP needs a buff appears to be almost (not quite) unanimous among the ancient members here, but that is overall a pretty small and elite pool of players...
Okay, so walk me through this. Here's a .vlg of I game I've been playing with this thread in mind. Character is human fighter, so somewhat fast leveler. I've collected all five orbs, and am in principle ready to go for D:50. Turncount is currently just under 58000... not a speedrun, but not particularly slow either. I'm level 33, with about 6.5 million XP accumulated so far. I'm somewhat fast, at speed 128, though that's fairly recent (RoTMC), but would effect XP from Archmage, Earth Temple, and D:46 vault. I've done all of CoC and Unreal Caves (minus BDC), plus IQD/FJ, plus Darkforge and High Kings, and early game stuff. Cleared both greater vaults entirely, both giants (1 boss variety). I haven't done complete exploration of every level in lower CoC, but let's say maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of each level on average. And at this point, I'm a third of the way to level 50: I need 14 million more XP. Where do I get the rest of it?
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Level50 St:32 Le:29 Wi:31 Dx:39 To:29 Ch:16 Ap: 4 Ma:19 Pe:17 N+
DV/PV: 36/69 H: 610(610) P: 30(148) Exp: 33/6491849 D: 44 Sp: 123
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Character Information
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Level50 St:32 Le:29 Wi:31 Dx:39 To:29 Ch:16 Ap: 4 Ma:19 Pe:17 N+
DV/PV: 36/69 H: 610(610) P: 30(148) Exp: 33/6491849 M: 57639
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Background Information
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Name: Level50 Race: female Human Class: Fighter
Eye color: light blue Hair color: yellow Complexion: pale
Height: 5'7" Weight: 123 pounds
Age: 29 (grown-up)
Star sign: Candle Birthday: 11/Candle (day 281 of the year)
YOUR HISTORY:
Your parents belong to the middle class. They are average people
living in average quarters. Your father is a craftsman of mediocre talent.
As a child your parents cared a lot for you. Despite all
circumstances you enjoyed a happy and fine childhood.
As a youth you spent a lot of time in the wilds exploring woods and
generally enjoying your freedom. You had a lot of fun and learned to value
the treasures of nature.
As a young adult you left your home because of trouble with your
parents. They opposed your plans for the future without understanding your
wishes. Thus you decided to live on your own. You wandered through the
country for many years, growing older and wiser and learning many things.
You decided to become a Fighter.
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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Unarmed fighting 2 +2 +0 +0 basic 30
Daggers & knives 8 +7 +4 +2 excellent 417
Clubs & hammers 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25
Maces & flails 12 +12 +8 +4 Mastery 4049
Swords 10 +9 +6 +3 excellent 571
Axes 9 +7 +6 +2 excellent 860
Whips 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 25
Pole arms 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25
Twohanded weapons 9 +8 +12 +3 excellent 155
Staves 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 25
Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
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Slings 5 +10 +7 +1 skilled 61
Bows 3 +6 +4 +1 basic 14
Crossbows 8 +16 +12 +2 excellent 317
Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 12 +24 Mastery 2130
Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +80 bonus to hit, 6d5+48 damage
Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 1, base range: 16, +85 bonus to hit, 20d4+52 damage
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Spells
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Fire Bolt : 1, 19pp (Effectivity: +0)
Frost Bolt : 1, 23pp (Effectivity: +0)
Slow Monster: 6, 13pp (Effectivity: +0)
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Skills
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Archery ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Athletics ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+1]
Climbing ................. 90 (great) [+2d4]
Disarm traps ............. 39 (fair) [+3d4]
Dodge .................... 94 (superb) [+1d5]
Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+1d3]
First aid ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Food preservation ........100 (superb) [+1d3]
Haggling ................. 44 (fair) [+2d4]
Herbalism ................ 71 (great) [+1d3]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Literacy ................. 63 (good) [+1]
Metallurgy ............... 14 (mediocre) [+4d5]
Smithing ................. 25 (mediocre) [+4d4]
Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+3d4]
Swimming .................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Tactics ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Two weapon combat ........ 63 (good) [+3d3]
Ventriloquism ............ 8 (poor) [+3d5]
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Effects of Corruption
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Your skin is covered by tough scales (PV: +8, Dx: -6, Ap: -4).
Your mouth has turned into a writhing mass of prehensile tentacles (Dx: +6,
Ap: -15).
Your bones are made from bronze (Dx: -2, DV: -2, PV: +3).
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Inventory
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Total weight: 6683 stones Carrying capacity: 8675 stones
He: uncursed Iron Crown of Havlor (-6, -6) [+12, +12] {Le+4} [65s]
Ne: uncursed ankh [3s]
Bo: uncursed eternium plate mail of the sea (-1, -2) [-1, +13] [240s]
Gi: blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Cl: uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +6] [20s]
RH: blessed silvery two-handed sword "Vanquisher" (+3, 6d5+3) [-3, +0][300s]
LH: -
RR: uncursed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
LR: blessed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd) [1s]
Br: uncursed rustproof bracers of regeneration [+0, +0] [18s]
Ga: uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
MW: uncursed heavy crossbow (+3, +6) [140s]
Mi: blessed obsidian quarrel "Thunderstroke" (+8, 20d4+8) [2s]
Tl: -
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Killed Monsters
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3388 monsters perished under her attacks.
The following monsters were vanquished:
1 acid vortex
13 air demons
11 air elementals
4 air grues
1 ancient blue dragon
1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm
2 ancient karmic dragons
2 ancient minotaurs
1 ancient red dragon
1 Ancient Stone Beast
1 ancient white dragon
3 animated armors
5 animated trees
4 ankhegs
5 annihilators
6 annis hags
3 assassins
11 bandits
1 banshee
4 barbarians
4 barbarian leaders
1 battle bunny
26 berserkers
1 berserker emperor
6 berserker lords
1 berserker prince
3 big dogs
1 black dragon
1 black druid
7 black hurthlings
1 black slayer
2 black unicorns
2 black wizards
18 blink dogs
2 blue baby dragons
1 blue dragon
1 bone golem
3 brown bears
4 brown worms
4 bugbears
2 bulettes
1 bunny master
3 carrion crawlers
2 cave bears
7 cave fishers
13 cave lizards
9 cavemen
1 Chaos Archmage
4 chaos brothers
1 chaos diplomat
6 chaos eyes
3 chaos lizards
5 chaos mutants
2 chaos plague bearers
19 chaos rats
97 chaos servants
2 chaos sisters
1 chaos spawn
6 chaos spiders
1 chaos viper
2 chaos warlords
40 chaos warriors
4 chaos wizards
9 claw bugs
2 clay golems
4 clay statues
2 cobras
1 cooshoo
16 corpse fiends
3 crystal statues
2 cutpurses
3 dark elven archers
6 dark elven lords
5 dark elven priestesses
6 dark elven warriors
2 dark elven wizards
15 dark orcs
6 dark sages
3 death oozes
2 diamond golems
40 dire wolves
7 displacer beasts
7 doppelgangers
1 doppelganger king
3 doppelganger lords
2 dwarves
1 dwarven artificer
5 dwarven chaos knights
34 earth elementals
3 ettins
2 eyes of destruction
18 fire beetles
14 fire demons
8 fire drakes
4 fire elementals
8 fire giants
38 fire giant kings
2 fire grues
22 fire lizards
4 flesh golems
3 floating eyes
125 fomorian giants
118 frost giants
51 frost giant berserkers
43 frost giant jarls
2 frozen ones
2 gargantuan rats
1 gargoyle
12 gelatinous cubes
22 ghosts
10 ghost bats
1 ghost king
4 ghost lords
66 ghuls
2 giant ant queens
50 giant ant warriors
13 giant ant workers
16 giant bats
1 giant bee queen
9 giant bee warriors
5 giant bee workers
5 giant centipedes
2 giant frogs
9 giant lizards
2 giant raccoons
31 giant rats
2 giant rust monsters
4 giant slugs
7 giant spiders
4 gibbering mouthers
23 gnolls
3 gnoll chieftains
37 goblins
13 goblin berserkers
4 goblin chieftains
28 goblin rockthrowers
14 goblin slavemasters
17 gray oozes
1 great karmic wyrm
16 greater chaos servants
2 greater claw bugs
3 greater daemons
2 greater mimics
1 greater moloch
5 greater mummies
3 greater water elementals
1 green blob
1 green hag
14 green slimes
1 green worm
2 gremlins
5 griffons
2 grizzly bears
7 harpies
2 hell hounds
9 hill giants
2 hill giant chieftains
4 hill orcs
7 hill orc sergeants
6 hippogriffs
8 hobgoblins
4 hobgoblin chiefs
6 hobgoblin leaders
6 homunculi
7 huge bats
1 hydra
55 hyenas
3 ice elementals
6 ice lizards
2 ice statues
1 ice vortex
3 imps
24 jackals
3 jackal demons
4 jackalweres
4 karmic lizards
1 king cobra
55 kobolds
10 kobold chieftains
17 kobold shamans
15 large bats
1 large dog
26 large gnolls
46 large kobolds
27 large orcs
3 large snakes
34 large spiders
8 least daemons
1 lesser daemon
5 leucrottas
4 liches
2 lightning lizards
13 lizard men
8 magebane eyes
13 magedoom eyes
1 margoyle
7 master liches
2 master mimics
1 master necromancer
1 Master Summoner
11 master swordsmen
5 mimics
2 mimic hiveminds
1 minotaur
3 molochs
33 mummies
1 mummy lord
5 necromancers
5 ochre jellies
40 ogres
2 ogre kings
59 ogre lords
4 ogre magi
1 oracle
42 orcs
5 orc chieftains
10 orc scorchers
5 outlaws
4 outlaw leaders
8 owlbears
32 pit vipers
5 pixies
5 pixie archers
2 purple worms
2 quasits
1 quickling
1 quickling king
2 quickling lords
3 rabid dogs
9 raiders
1 raider lord
55 rats
5 ratling archers
2 ratling duelists
5 ratling fencers
5 ratling master thieves
5 ratling thieves
4 ratling traders
4 ratling warlords
8 ratling warriors
4 rattlesnakes
2 red baby dragons
2 red dragons
12 red worms
2 revenants
1 rust monster
77 shadows
5 shadow centipedes
3 shadow lords
3 shadow trolls
2 shambling mounds
5 silver wolves
3 skeletal kings
13 skeletal warriors
70 skeletons
4 slow shadows
1 Snake from Beyond
3 snow golems
16 spectres
6 staring eyes
33 steel golems
7 steel horrors
6 steel zombies
130 stone giants
47 stone giant lords
7 stone golems
30 stone grues
1 stone ooze
6 stone snakes
20 stone statues
8 swordsmen
8 tarantulas
9 titans
14 trolls
9 troll berserkers
8 troll chiefs
1 undead chaos dwarven berserker
5 vampires
19 vapor rats
1 viper
7 water demons
3 water elementals
6 water grues
8 water snakes
6 wererats
10 werewolves
4 werewolf lords
41 white baby dragons
1 white dragon
9 white worms
67 wights
2 will o'wisps
42 wolves
37 wraiths
8 writhing masses of primal chaos
3 yellow oozes
36 yetis
94 zombies
Dispatched the legendary chaos warrior gOdSgRaVe the Immortal.
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Achievements
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She survived for 0 years, 40 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 25 seconds (57639
turns).
Level50 visited 128 places.
Her strength score was modified by +14 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +9 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +20 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +10 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +12 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +4 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +11 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +9 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +6 during her career.
She was the champion of the arena.
She brought an infamous raider lord to justice.
She adhered to the principles of the Cat Lord and thus rose to great fame.
She saved Khelavaster from certain death.
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Playing Time
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You played for 6 hours, 30 minutes and 1 second.
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Version Information
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Ancient Domains Of Mystery
Release 69
Windows Deluxe Build: Sep 4 2016 12:46:16