A barrage of new questions (spoilers?)

[Grey]

The kick method is what I always do, presuming I have enough PV not to take damage from it. If you keep searching next to that spot then the door *will* be revealed. It helps to use the 'w s' command to search many times at once. I can only presume you're using half blind characters if you always have trouble with this

[Orbic]

Use the command "ws" and you will search for I think 20 turns in a row or until you find something.
The s(earch) command is only one game turn of searching, that may not be sufficient to find a well hidden door

[gut]

> (it realy hurts your foot) and found a place where there should be
> secret door that way. However, using 's' to search at the same
> spot didn't reveal anything,

Just keep kicking it, it will kick through eventually. Like Grey says
though, keep an eye on your HP's if your PV is low.

[Amhazair]

Well, thanks for that. 'ws' worked like a charm this time. I have to say it feels good to finally be able to finish that first quest.
Of course, I starved on my way back to the village, (first time that happened) but hey, can't have everything at once, can you.

(And no, some of the previous characters had very high perception)

[gut]

You can pray for food when you're hungry.

[Sintaluva]

I'd like to add that if you get stuck in the dungeon SE of Terinyo (be it the carpenter or the dark druid quest) you can always go somewhere else and return later. There's no need to complete that quest in the early game. It is often a good idea to go to the Arena (level 3 of the Caverns of Chaos in far W) first for some lightweight but nutritious food.