Holy shit! 3-1 ^_^

[PeanutGod]

Silfr - We should be singing that! I'm not totally aware of all the reasons why we can't, I'm presuming the war and all that. But isn't it just that the translation comes across wrong. They don't mean Germany above all (everyone), but rather Germany before all the other things in their lives. Not sure.....I don't see there being a major problem with it.

As for Turkey - congrats to them is due I think. They played a good tournament, suprised everyone including themselves and the players will now be eyed up by everyone. Glad they didn't win, but happy that they got to the semis.

[Evil Knievel]

@peanutgod - it's not because of those lines (which are a little problematic themselves but well..). It's about the following lines which define very old territorial boundaries that are far outside of current Germany (and very far from any German speaking persons - see map in link).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied

[Silfir]

The thing is that "Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles" is usually only sung by neonazis these days. Yes, the song is much older than the Third Reich, but to people in Germany today it is tainted with its legacy. That's it, really, at least in my eyes. I think we should at least start singing the second stanza again, because it rocks. German women, German wine and German song are awesome! Okay, scratch the "song" - our show at the Eurovision Song Contest was pathetic.

[Grey]

Surprised at how poorly Russia performed, I must say. Still, Spain really were beautiful watch - will be great to see them against Germany. Lots of speed, lots of creative passes, and some great set-ups by Fabregas (arguably the best player in the tournament - my youngest brother, a keen Arsenal fan, certainly thinks so). I think they have an extremely high chance to win.

[yisk]

prosrali s treskom! xD

[warheart]

Surprised at how poorly Russia performed, I must say. Still, Spain really were beautiful watch - will be great to see them against Germany. Lots of speed, lots of creative passes, and some great set-ups by Fabregas (arguably the best player in the tournament - my youngest brother, a keen Arsenal fan, certainly thinks so). I think they have an extremely high chance to win.

The thing is that Spain didn't let Russia play, like other teams did. We played a wonderful match today, hoping to see this great play in the final as well

[Nezur]

Hmm. A thread with 50+ posts about football at an ADoM forum.

Maybe we do need the off-topic subforum.

[Silfir]

It's the European Championships. You won't have this kind of thread for two more years after they're over...

[vogonpoet]

Nezur, if it makes you feel any better, I have a female PC at the moment in possession of a Golden Ball. I shall put it on the dungeoun floor and kick it into a corridor past the next G I see, thus bringing much needed ADOM relevance to the thread.

So, non german non spanish thread followers - who are we supporting?

[gut]

I am hesitant to openly declare my support for either team.
My cheering often tends to be a cursing : ) I suppose I
will support Germany. No relevant reason though, as I care
little for soccer in general.