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    I have just begun a Gray Elf priest, named Walter. He started out with a book of Divine Intervention. I was thinking that it was just one of the more mundane spells, so I decided to read it immediately. I went to "Hungry!" before I could stop reading it. I then bought a ration to take me to normal, and ate a loaf of bread to get me to bloated. I decided to read again. I still couldn't finish it before getting to "hungry!" status. That's when I decided: this is definitely a spellbook of Wish.

    So, what do you guys do when you start with this spellbook? I'm thinking of trying to grab some blessed stomafillia herbs, and ID stairhopping until I find that room which reduces your food consumption rate. Then, perhaps, I may be able to read this book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda_Lord View Post
    I have just begun a Gray Elf priest, named Walter. He started out with a book of Divine Intervention. I was thinking that it was just one of the more mundane spells, so I decided to read it immediately. I went to "Hungry!" before I could stop reading it. I then bought a ration to take me to normal, and ate a loaf of bread to get me to bloated. I decided to read again. I still couldn't finish it before getting to "hungry!" status. That's when I decided: this is definitely a spellbook of Wish.

    So, what do you guys do when you start with this spellbook? I'm thinking of trying to grab some blessed stomafillia herbs, and ID stairhopping until I find that room which reduces your food consumption rate. Then, perhaps, I may be able to read this book.
    at low levels it's hardly possible. do you have literacy and concentration at 100? if so, then it might be doable, but i'm not sure of what exactly influences book reading besides skills (meaning, i don;t know if level is that important).
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    My Learning is 20, and my Literacy and Concentration are both at 100, yes.

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    This is really easy. Make a priest Archmage.

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    Reading it takes about 3000 turns. So make sure you aren't wearing (too many) artifacts and you aren't burdened. Then eat a blessed stomafillia or eat until you are bloated, wait until you become satiated and then eat something that fills more than regular iron/large ration (for example cooked corpse or blessed ration should be enough). Alternatively you can eat until you are bloated and then drink potions (berzio or toughness for example) or read a scroll of satiation.

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    In the game I started with a wizard that started with a wish
    spellbook, I joined the thieves' guild then sold it to the black
    market. You could alternatively sell it at Leggot's Shop, but
    I didn't want to risk mine getting destroyed. I got a good
    30k or so gold from it, if I recall correctly, and I bought it
    back later with casino funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadface View Post
    In the game I started with a wizard that started with a wish
    spellbook, I joined the thieves' guild then sold it to the black
    market. You could alternatively sell it at Leggot's Shop, but
    I didn't want to risk mine getting destroyed. I got a good
    30k or so gold from it, if I recall correctly, and I bought it
    back later with casino funds.
    This is, IMHO, the best thing to do with a book of wish at the start. You need 1500 PP or so to cast it, so even if you manage to learn it, all you'll get is maybe 4-5 increases in your learning score.

    Honestly though, casting wish is almost never worthwhile even if you have enough PP unless you're going for archmage. Risking the loss of 10 points of a good stat isn't worth a wish by the time you're able to cast it.
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    Selling it is probably the best use of starting with Wish. If you do manage to learn it it'll train Learning quite a bit though, so that might be a worthwhile pursuit even if you never cast it.

    Level does factor into learning spells, so it will be pretty difficult at low level, but you've got at least a shot with your skills/stats/class.

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    What does it mean, going for an archmage?

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    An archmage is a PC who is capable of bookcasting wish indefinitely. This means that they have to be able to sustain the PP cost of bookcasting, either with PP or HP, even as the entirety of their attribute scores are reduced to 1. Commonly this is achieved by playing a wizard and reaching level 50, plus draining a couple of wands or drinking blessed PoUH from Jharod. Great Book Caster is pretty much essential.

    It is the road to ultimate power, because once PCs are capable of casting wish with all stats reduced to 1 (regenerating PP/HP afterwards), they can wish indefinitely provided they stay in a spot inaccessible to enemy interference (such as the small island in Terinyo, which apparently also regenerates PP quickly). Well, old age or running out of food could stop them in theory, but... You can wish for potions of longevity and of course stomafillia herbs (or elvish bread, or large rations - with infinite wishes it doesn't matter). Usually archmages will use their infinite wishes for potions of (stat), weapon marks, spellbooks of all the spells in the game, any item one could ever possibly want with the best possible attribute bonus (you can wish for 100 girdles of Giant Strength and keep the one that has +16, for instance), and so on and so forth, several thousand potions of ultra healing to slowly inflate HP score to ridiculous amounts, 50 lumps of gelee royal to remove all the scars from corrupted tissue, or whatever who cares.

    Eventually, the player exists Archmage mode, drinks all the potions and breezes through the rest of the game, happily, with 99 in everything, all spells at 30000, Grand Mastery in everything, every mundane item in the game, over 10k HP and PP and so on.
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