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    Hi wikipedia.
    I said it before, and I'll say it again. If I knew scripture like you, I'd prolly be an athiest too.. -gut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    EDIT: Grey, is that to say that if you don't agree with the consensus on global warming, you obviously can't be an expert?
    No, that just happens to be the case for most people Of course one can agree with global warming and be an idiot too. In fact I think that's half the problem in convincing people about the real effects of man-made climate change - too often the loudest proponents are banal idiots who overdramatise everything. Hippies are the worst. God-damn hippies...

    I saw a poster campaign at a university last year saying "Global Warming: The Real Truth". Below it had a very beautiful picture of a tiger in a forest, with a note saying how global warming was killing precious animals. Really fucking pissed me off - exactly the sort of bollocks that makes people disregard the real issues about climate change.
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    My opinion on the subject :
    -1 I don't know
    -2 I don't care.
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    What do you mean 'you don't care'? Don't you know that if you CARE, it
    will make all the oil companies stop pumping oil? Don't you know that if
    you complain loudly enough, cars will start running on water, like in that
    youtube video? If only MORE PEOPLE WOULD CARE!!!
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    And? 10 chars
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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    > But of course I'm only spreading propaganda,

    and you should be ashamed
    I am deeply ashamed about stating my opinion on the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    There are other resources that will be tapped before we need to resort to magic, or
    my hybrid mutants. They are just more expensive to gather and refine than oil is.
    Won't happen on a large scale until gas hits 5$ in USA though.
    Ok, I'm listening. What are the other resources?

    Please keep in mind it's not just about energy. Oil is important for the production of stuff like rubber, plastics, fertilizers, pesticides and all sorts of chemicals. Besides, oil holds energy in a particular form. For example, you can't fly an airoplane on coal. Well, maybe you can if you first turn the coals to liquid, but you lose a lot of efficiency in that case.

    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    >>> "Peak oil means that we will be in deep shit within the next five to ten years."

    A message such as this presents the situation as if all factors are being taken into
    account, all data has been wieghed and measured, and an inescapable/undebatable
    conclusion has been reached. One of doom and gloom. This is a scare message, intended
    to sway people's thinking to your liking. This is 'Why is it propaganda?'. I do enjoy the
    re-occuring efforts to present one's side as being non-debatable though, especially in the
    middle of a debate
    Non-debatable? I'd love to be convinced that I'm completely wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    > "World production will peak at some unknown time in the future"

    How quick, the backpedaling
    All right. How about this:

    It is uncertain at what exact moment oil production will peak, but based on recent research, it seems quite likely that this will happen in the next five to ten years.
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    >>> But of course I'm only spreading propaganda,

    >> and you should be ashamed

    > I am deeply ashamed about stating my opinion on the internet.

    I meant be ashamed of forgetting to use sarcasm marks...

    > Ok, I'm listening. What are the other resources?

    Of course I didn't hear about other resources from wiki, but it's just so easy to link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_sands

    " the world's largest deposits occur in two countries: Canada and Venezuela, each of which has oil sand reserves approximately equal to the world's total reserves of conventional crude oil."

    and that is only one alternative. there are others that I'm too lazy to even wiki
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    You want to raise a debate about the huge environmental impact of oil sands now?
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