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    > If you were to walk IN them (whihc you can't,

    I don't need to walk in them, I can chop them. I suppose you
    are city-folk who has never chopped a tree? Well, I'm not, I've
    chopped plenty. Let me tell you, it's cool in there, not hot. In
    addition, water comes gushing out of the big pine ones by the
    gallons (Suppose you would have imagined steam?). This water
    is fresh and good, and is a delightful thing for the life that does
    surround the tree if a drought happens.

    This 'absorption' of heat which you are accusing my leafy friends
    is not a bad thing, it is a natural side effect of being a solar panel.
    All this E that comes from burning coal/oil, from where do you
    think it comes, if not from the sun? All greeny stuffs are solar
    panels. Photosynthesis rules, tree-haters drool!
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    > "I absolutely appreciate that we have an interesting discussion so far instead of a flamewar"

    Ahem:
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobbse View Post
    The reason that many Americans don't want to see that global warming is no hoax:

    Acceptance of global warming theory means you accept that there's a 500,000,000 year buildup of carbon in the ground, left by all those evolving plants and animals, and that digging much of it out and putting it into the air over a few hundred years makes a difference to a world created by a diety about 6,000 years ago.

    The answer of a too religious bible belt inhabitant might be:
    "How can that be true if the earth is 6,000 years old, and the coal and oil were put there for our use? "
    Point A) You're ignorant
    Point 2) Next time you collect your facts about the theory of creationism try not to get them from a screaming Baptist Preacher that tells you you're going to Hell for looking at a pair of tits the wrong way
    Point C) Where in the Bible does it say the "Earth was created 6000 years ago?" Even if it says something about 1000 years thats because back when the Bible was written and then translated 1000 years was just a number they used to mean a really long time.. so really there's no place in the Bible that gives you an exact time when the Earth was created. Oh and the 7 day thing? Who ever said that one of God's days are equal to one of our days?
    Point 3.1) Even if it did say something like that I'll even use one of Science's Laws to prove your reasoning to be faulty.. "Matter cannot be created or destroyed" Therefore who's to say *my deity* didn't just take floating pieces of matter that happened to be 500 million years old to create the Earth?
    Point 4.0) You're ignorant.

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    Now now children...
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    Sorry no the main reason most Americans think global warming is a hoax is because the people involved in it are getting rich pushing it. Followed closely by the fact that for many Americans it simply isn't matching there experiences. We've had abnormally cool temperatures in this state for much of the last year much being in excess of 90%. And then there is the infamous e-mails in which we discovered that the hockey stick is compounded of both temperature data from today and proxy data from juniper trees in China that are apparently the only trees in Asia that show a parcipitous rise in temperature. And of course the confession by the head brit Pushing it that the medieval warm period was likely warming than anything we are likely to experience today or in the next 500 years and it was a freaking golden age for many culture world wide.

    Then there is that irritating fact that CO2 isn't even close to the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases -one good fart probably produces more greenhouse effect than drivng your car all week - and currently it exist only in trace amounts in the atmosphere what something around .004%? and is considered unlikely to reach .005% in the next 100 years.

    And then there is the distressing feeling many of us have that the primary reason governments and their hand picked scientists want to control CO2 is that through it they have a ready made way to at least try to control damn near all human activity. And our experience of fascist and socialist goos has been on the whole rather unpleasant to put it mildly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albahan View Post
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    Point A) You're ignorant
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    Point 4.0) You're ignorant.
    Sorry, I thought I made it clear that it was not my own opinion, but a cited one. Seems You missed the post I made some hours after my "strange" posting: " ... I thought it would be at least worth smiling a bit about it. Nevertheless the basic message might be not completely out of truth... "

    Perhaps I should have clearified the original source meant it that way:

    The reason that ( many Americans don't want to see that global warming is no hoax )

    and not that way

    ( The reason that many Americans don't want to see that global warming ) is no hoax:

    Nevertheless - a discussion about creationism and evolutionism might be interesting - but not in this thread - we should make an own thread about it...

    Apropos - creationists like ADOM because it's clearly a creator's world though some jackalweres try to get evolution working with their shitload of jackals

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    Nobbse, I gotta call you out on this one:

    > Sorry, I thought I made it clear that it was not my own opinion

    That's cowardly. Posting stuff that is bound to irritate, following it
    with 'It isn't me saying it, others said it, I'm just repeating
    it.'

    Would be like me posting stuff from nambla (or some other group
    of perverts) that criticizes prudes that just don't understand their
    lifestyle, then saying: 'Here's some stuff that I've been reading
    recently, maybe it's actually a good idea... but remember, it's not
    me saying it.'

    We aren't idiots
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    Now why would the North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes criticize prudes?
    I said it before, and I'll say it again. If I knew scripture like you, I'd prolly be an athiest too.. -gut

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    Nobbse, I gotta call you out on this one:

    > Sorry, I thought I made it clear that it was not my own opinion

    That's cowardly.
    That's what ADOM teached me: the Coward-Mode is really helpful

    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    We aren't idiots
    me neither... besides of that - I already made my own point of view earlier in this thread.


    and don't forget: tree-wise I'm on Your side, gut!
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    You're right! All that name-calling and talk about trees not being
    worth their albedo got me so frustrated I was lashing out at my
    tree lovin' allies. I'm still mad! Raawrrrr!
    *puts on sneery tone and rants*

    ~Scientists~ with all their fancy talk and 3 syllable words,
    thinking they're packed with awesome. Let me tell ye, trees
    have more awesome in their tiniest, diseased, bug-eaten twig
    than scientists will ever have in their collective, worldwide mass.
    The world could so much more easily do without scientists than
    trees it isn't even funny. No wait, maybe I can make it funny.
    Let's see if the work of ~scientists~ can compete with that of
    trees.

    Should be simple for them, they have university degrees,
    literally dozens of years of experience, and a never-ending
    supply of tax dollars with which to work. What could trees have
    to compete with that? All the scientists have to do is make a
    system of self sustaining solar panels capable of harnessing the
    power of the sun, then making the energy suitable for sustaining
    life on Earth for the rest of time. Kinda like that time on star trek
    'deep space nine' when that Faringea engineer, Whatshisname,
    created that worm-hole mine field. Just a lot more complex. And
    in real life.

    Must remember though, to make the solar panels self replicating,
    weather resistant, self repairing, extremely efficient, 100%
    biodegradable, and self improving with each generation. They
    should also serve side functions as sources of food, shelter, and
    building materials for countless millions of life forms. They should
    also be so beautiful to look upon that they actually increase
    property value wherever they are generated. Would be so easy
    and elloquent to do that. So nimble and leet. Much easier than
    me having to accidentally stomp a walnut in the ground as I walk
    through my yard.

    Just one last vital thing though, must remember to make them
    all white. Gotta to keep that low albedo
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    I can perfectly understand You, gut, but don't put the blame on the scientists, most of them are completely aware of their imperfection. The problems are more on the side of other people (politicians, journalists, ... ) that don't read their papers attentively enough and arrive at wrong conclusions. Trees contribute to the climate multifactor-wise, albedo is just one factor, hydrology is another one (as I showed some posts before) . Real scientist and ADOM aficionados that are used to multifactorial effects do understand that and will search on - while the morons begin to chop trees

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