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Soirana
12-30-2010, 11:38 AM
As promised i will try elitist assassin challenge [not putting anything non artifact on] in upcoming year:)


Well, summarization of ideas:

Race - easiest would be drake, but spitting is for cheatos not elitists. So human:)
Talents:
not sure I can go brawler, than towards natural berserker to help with early game, for speed or for PV. Currently i think long stride+PV is best bet.
Month - candle, plan obtaining torc surely [missile slot]
Overall plan:
generate SMC, jump in Id to level 11 find altar and make some fast precrowns.

Early problems - ghuls, mimics and a like are rather deadly. Need to find some offensive wand and keep it charged.

grobblewobble
12-30-2010, 01:31 PM
> jump in Id to level 11

Do you mean the ID? How are you going to generate the piety for multiple precrowns?

Soirana
12-30-2010, 01:36 PM
> jump in Id to level 11

Do you mean the ID? How are you going to generate the piety for multiple precrowns?

yeah, infinite dungeon.... Most likely live sacrifices...

gut
12-31-2010, 11:23 AM
Early game non-equipment PV is priceless if you are going to wear no
regular armor. All non-troll assasins start with To: < 20, so starting PV
will be zero. I say chose dwarf for mithril skin. Also, maybe chose tree
star sign for the +Wi: boost. Should be enough to qualify for immune
to pain.

vogonpoet
01-03-2011, 01:16 PM
Hang on, this means naked, with no missiles until the torc and no weapons until precrown? You're just going to punch people in the face and run away a lot until you have some piety? Sounds tricky :) Good luck Soirana. Talent PV certainly sounds worth investigating...

Soirana
01-06-2011, 03:50 PM
-Willcomen, to our valley of dang... Miss, what are you doing?
-I have enough dirt from fighting all these sucky monsters,
so i am not planning to wear your
sucky non personally designed armor or ran around with stupid looking sword.
-But, miss...
-And pick all that stuff as you follow me, we might sell these somewhere
Well, well, after all stupid adventurers i tried to lead to success
this case might be hardest.


So the story of Kiku naked [so far] assassin got started. Despite lack of stuff she showed quite capable - first level greeted as with tension room of rats which gave at least four extra levels.


Background Information

Name: Kiku Race: female Human Class: Assassin
Eye color: brown Hair color: black Complexion: tanned
Height: 5'6" Weight: 127 pounds
Age: 26 (grown-up)
Star sign: Candle Birthday: 28/Candle (day 298 of the year)

HISTORY:
Her parents are travelling adventurers, doing moderately
well on they quest to search for antique artifacts.
In her childhood Kiku was fascinated by her parents collection and the
everchanging wonders of the world. She was a very curious and adventurous
child.
During her youth Kiku was very lazy. She slept a lot and didn't
care too much for most duties and tasks. Her parents were not very happy
with her fascination in poisons and bare handed combat. Or should i say
suspicious deaths and clear slaughterhood?
As a young adult she spent a lot of time searching for a deeper
meaning and purpose in the life. She pondered and pondered but nothing
truly sparked her dark interest. Finally, after many many hours, she made a
decision - to become an Assassin and stay pure from non
artifact weapons and armour.
It did not sounded bad except she had no artifacts at all...

Here is a little picture from days before she choose her path
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/chk/121.jpg


As some expect i lead her to infinite dungeon to learn an ancient art of stair hopping. Some hops were good, some not but we lived and learned....



-Miss, you should line up monster and locked door in one line while...
-What the hell for?
-That maximizes your chances of identifying and...
-I have better idea...- and she zapped me instead...
-----------
-Don't worry spiders cause only mild poisoning
while having very beneficial effects...
3 days later Kiku cringing from pain:
-And you call that poison resistance?


Managed not to get poison resistance from first spider, picked sickness from rats at some point... Got good collection of wands which solved quite a few situations.



Character Information

Kiku St:14 Le:17 Wi:11 Dx:14 To:14 Ch: 6 Ap:10 Ma:11 Pe:28 N-
DV/PV: 28/1 H: 62(62) P: 28(28) Exp: 10/19027 M: 11202


Unarmed fighting 7 +4 +3 +2 skilled 402


Alchemy .................. 38 (fair) [+2d4]
Alertness ................ 68 (good) [+2d4]
Archery .................. 23 (mediocre) [+3d5]
Backstabbing ............. 68 (good) [+3d5]
Climbing ................. 44 (fair) [+4d5]
Detect traps ............. 67 (good) [+3d4]
Dodge .................... 58 (good) [+3d3]
Find weakness ............ 57 (good) [+3d5]
First aid ................ 52 (good) [+1d5]
Food preservation ........ 70 (good) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 34 (fair) [+3d3]
Listening ................ 37 (fair) [+4d5]
Literacy ................. 46 (fair) [+3d3]
Pick locks ............... 32 (fair) [+4d5]
Pick pockets ............. 11 (mediocre) [+4d5]
Stealth .................. 40 (fair) [+4d4]
Swimming ................. 32 (fair) [+3d3]
Two weapon combat ........ 20 (mediocre) [+4d4]



wand of magic missiles (3 charges) [3s]
wand of stunning (2 charges) [3s]
wand of digging (1 charge) [3s]
wand of knocking (0 charges) [3s]
wand of trap creation (0 charges) [3s]
rusty wand of light (3 charges) [4s]
wand of stunning [3s]
wand of magic missiles [3s]
Potions ('!')
heap of 3 potions of poison [12s]
heap of 3 flickering potions [12s]
cyan potion [4s]
flickering potion [4s]
light blue potion [4s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 2 scrolls labeled "FROTZ" [4s]
scroll labeled "SutsI" [2s]
scroll labeled "Odiv" [2s]
scroll labeled "FROTZ" [2s]
scroll labeled "ACME" [2s]
scroll labeled "ABABILA" [2s]
scroll of repair [2s]
scroll of identify [2s]
unlabeled scroll [2s]
scroll labeled "IAZNAB" [2s]
scroll of gold detection [2s]
heap of 2 scrolls of gold detection [4s]
Valuables ('$')
2146 gold pieces [21s]


546 monsters perished under her attacks.


She survived for 0 years, 17 days, 12 hours, 53 minutes and 27 seconds
(11202 turns).
Kiku visited 6 places.
Her strength score was modified by -1 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +14 during her career.


At the end of first week we went to visit old barbarian, Kiku talked him into escorting us home, but we lost his track in the ambush of undeads in nearby swamps, hopefully we will meet again as Kiku is very eager for his quest to kill more giant rants...


Okay, leveling mostly done, some ghul insurance obtained. Time to search for altar.

gut
01-06-2011, 05:52 PM
I'm loving this.

Grey
01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
She's getting quite perceptive there... So what's the strategy? Get torc quick?

Soirana
01-06-2011, 06:28 PM
She's getting quite perceptive there... So what's the strategy? Get torc quick?

still need altar which depends on how deep it is generated -- shallow precrown, deep create some holy water for blessing booze and get torc.

There is ofcourse chance it is one of these games with only one early alatr in dwarftown.

Will see.

JellySlayer
01-06-2011, 06:55 PM
You're using wands, potions, and scrolls?

Where's the fun in that? ;)

Blasphemous
01-06-2011, 07:59 PM
Wait a minute, an altar in infinite dungeon? I thought they can't be generated there?

JellySlayer
01-06-2011, 08:33 PM
Wait a minute, an altar in infinite dungeon? I thought they can't be generated there?

No, he presumably means that he'll look elsewhere for an altar. At worst, he can get to DT with having found only one artifact and still be able to precrown at the altar there. But there's a decent chance of finding one in the VD/DD, PC, UD, DDL, or D:1-7

Silfir
01-06-2011, 08:51 PM
Black Tome of Alsophocus would be the only truly bad precrown, right?

... Oh dear. Thunderstroke. Anyone know how much damage it does in melee?

Mogri
01-06-2011, 10:48 PM
If you get an artifact missile, are you allowed to use a mundane launcher (and vice versa)?

Grey
01-07-2011, 12:13 AM
Of course not, the character isn't going to touch anything so common and dirty.

Will be funny to see Soirana wielding Thunderstroke in melee :) One potentially irritating item to get would be Protector, since it ruins barehanded fighting training. Of course it would be simple enough to then push for a crowning to get a decent weapon.

Silfir
01-07-2011, 12:14 AM
By the rules, nopesies. So if you get precrowned with Thunderstroke, you better hope you get Farslayer too. I guess this character is actually going to try and get Rolf's Companion; since it returns it probably makes a halfway decent throwing weapon that can actually be trained, contrary to the torc.

With a bit of luck and judicious torc use you should be able to get to below Dwarftown and try and grab Moon Sickle (it can be found as early as D:12 after all). That is, if the precrowns don't work out so hot, or don't give you a melee weapon.

EDIT: With Protector in tow you might be able to win the arena at least. Do monsters commonly pick up the torc?

How much damage do thrown sis deal anyway?

EDIT2: Teleport control, wand of teleportation, wand of digging - How feasible is the Sword of Nonnak?

phauli
01-07-2011, 12:58 AM
This is cool!
If your going to be an elitist then it would be easier to get heir? After all that precious dagger would be a heirloom of the family and thus qualifies, at least in my opinion.

Toan
01-07-2011, 01:41 AM
Heir vs TH.... Seeing as you're going only artifacts, TH might just win out in the long run, because you're gonna be more item dependent. And I think SI's deal the same dmg as scrolls or books, ie; 1d2, in either melee or missile, with some negative to hit for both. Not sure though. Probably just equip one and see what numbers pop up. Or greater ID.

EDIT: So you'd be better off using fists, I think.
EDIT2: Yay for MTG! Though, there are so many sets out, that I've lost track of all the new cards popping out like clockwork.

Soirana
01-07-2011, 03:44 AM
Of course not, the character isn't going to touch anything so common and dirty.

Will be funny to see Soirana wielding Thunderstroke in melee :) One potentially irritating item to get would be Protector, since it ruins barehanded fighting training. Of course it would be simple enough to then push for a crowning to get a decent weapon.

big punch +protector is not so bad

gut
01-07-2011, 04:28 AM
does your girl have enough wands/scrolls to kill a certain ogre magi?

Soirana
01-07-2011, 02:05 PM
does your girl have enough wands/scrolls to kill a certain ogre magi?

enough wands, just not enough booze. booze basically is question of money and money is question of patience.

I've got enough patience.

Besides all you need to win arena is teleport wand with few charges. Running from non finished fights afterards might be quite amusing believe me:)


I also strongly consider installing some pet. Preferably humanoid to do dirty work for Kiku....

vogonpoet
01-07-2011, 03:40 PM
Pets don't sound very elitist to me. Sounds folksy.

Silfir
01-07-2011, 05:17 PM
Forget "A certain ogre magus", what about the hordes of ogres and ogre lords in Thrundarr's quest? Maybe settling for the gladius for a while (at least until you can kill ogres with it) before obtaining Big Punch would be wise.

JellySlayer
01-07-2011, 05:24 PM
I'm a little surprised you didn't go for Raven-born. Getting RCT at level 16 would be pretty epic for a PC like this.

Soirana
01-07-2011, 05:33 PM
I'm a little surprised you didn't go for Raven-born. Getting RCT at level 16 would be pretty epic for a PC like this.

yeah, but RTC would mean problems over. Where is fun in this?

Soirana
01-07-2011, 06:48 PM
-These dungeons do not change? Well, i don't care
unless they stop spitting stuff to kill.
Kiku.


Not much to write about honestly. We went to druid dungeon.

First level very boring
Second very much wolves. After getting Kiku to level eleven we enclosed werewolf and his summons in down right part...



-What do you mean by stopped generation, i want...
-But we can get more dangerous monsters downwards...
So we went deeper.


On level three we closed some doors on dark elven factory. Tarantulas were just to brutal...

On level four Kiku found some thieve picks, which meant she can lock doors now. We also run into blink dog.
Classic grind get him summon, drag some summons upstairs, kill them, repeat... On good news Kiku got teleport control and sold spare corpse in the village.
On level 6 w emet fire vortex and given damage on explosion Kiku got fire resist from beetles in ID.

We went down to DD7 without further problems, somehow none of us felt like finishing quest and we went up rather smoothly.
At least until DD4 greeted us with yet another dark elven wizard...

Well, Kiku is still cleaning her naked skin from all these spider remains in nearby river... Wizzy was not a problem, but nearly each of tarantulas was mortal fight even with poison resistance....

We sold some loot, got one more potion of booze from beggars and went to another local dungeon...

Three very uneventful dungeon levels...


-My feet feels so better on the grass...
-Kiku! Stop stomping precious herbs...
-These look good deal withered for me, let me pick...
-Noooo!


Well, no altar but herbs are very good too. Stopped here as always stop before major herb farming...




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Unarmed fighting 8 +6 +3 +3 excellent 673

Right hand [berserk]: +31 bonus to hit, 1d3+9 damage
No missile weapons available.

Alchemy .................. 40 (fair) [+1d5]
Alertness ................ 73 (great) [+1d5]
Archery .................. 23 (mediocre) [+3d5]
Backstabbing ............. 83 (great) [+3d3]
Climbing ................. 44 (fair) [+4d5]
Detect traps ............. 67 (good) [+3d4]
Dodge .................... 63 (good) [+2d4]
Find weakness ............ 68 (good) [+3d4]
First aid ................ 60 (good) [+1d3]
Food preservation ........ 70 (good) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 34 (fair) [+3d3]
Listening ................ 52 (good) [+3d5]
Literacy ................. 46 (fair) [+3d3]
Pick locks ............... 35 (fair) [+4d5]
Pick pockets ............. 20 (mediocre) [+4d4]
Stealth .................. 48 (fair) [+4d4]
Swimming ................. 32 (fair) [+3d3]
Two weapon combat ........ 20 (mediocre) [+4d4]


steel amulet --- 450 gold offered in black market.
small key [1s]
broken triangular key [1s]
heap of 2 bandages [4s]
thieves picks [5s]
square key [1s]
wand of magic missiles (3 charges) [3s]
wand of stunning (2 charges) [3s]
wand of digging (1 charge) [3s]
wand of knocking (0 charges) [3s]
wand of trap creation (0 charges) [3s]
rusty wand of light (3 charges) [4s]
wand of stunning [3s]
wand of magic missiles [3s]
heap of 3 potions of poison [12s]
heap of 3 flickering potions [12s]
heap of 2 cyan potions [8s]
flickering potion [4s]
light blue potion [4s]
heap of 2 watery potions [8s]
amber potion [2s]
viscous potion [4s]
watery potion [4s]
potion of booze [4s]
heap of 2 scrolls labeled "FROTZ" [4s]
scroll labeled "SutsI" [2s]
heap of 2 scrolls labeled "Odiv" [4s]
scroll labeled "FROTZ" [2s]
scroll labeled "ACME" [2s]
scroll labeled "ABABILA" [2s]
scroll of repair [2s]
heap of 3 scrolls of identify [6s]
unlabeled scroll [2s]
scroll labeled "IAZNAB" [2s]
scroll of gold detection [2s]
heap of 2 scrolls of gold detection [4s]
scroll labeled "irk gleknow mizk" [2s]
scroll of repair [2s]
scroll labeled "KTTdLwrgt" [2s]

2879 gold pieces [28s]



807 monsters perished under her attacks.

13 blink dogs - not so much grind:)

1 dark elven wizard
2 dark sages
3 dire wolves

1 ghul

90 giant rats
1 gibbering mouther [must have zapped him]

64 goblins
46 goblin rockthrowers


9 jackals
2 jackalweres
43 kobolds
3 kobold chieftains
40 large bats
10 large spiders
1 necromancer
34 orcs
1 orc chieftain
154 rats
1 shadow centipede
8 tarantulas
3 wererats
44 wolves
9 zombies

She survived for 0 years, 24 days, 16 hours, 55 minutes and 6 seconds (22755
turns).
Kiku visited 17 places.
Her strength score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +14 during her career.


Approaching level 12 i believe.
Summarry:
Got tp control, thieve picks, likely amulet of life saving
Found herbs not stabilized yet.
Confirmed - fire resist.

The quest for elitism goes on:)

gut
01-07-2011, 10:06 PM
on the topic of pets, i have recently discovered how good a
beggar is for a pet. Sure, they have almost zero damage
output, and melee damage is, like, 1d3 or something. BUT,
you can equip them with whatever junk kiku isn't using,
which would make them servicible for many tasks. Seriously,
a couple of shields ( i don't know if melee weapons even
work, off the top of my head), helmet, gauntlets (of peace?),
some boots, and they are worth something. Personally, I used
them for luring jharod to water cave, where he takes no
damage (but old barbarian does :D).

Soirana
01-08-2011, 08:24 AM
-And we simply far peacef...
-Rats!- shouted Kiku charging in.- Rats for the quest.
And at the same moment we heard a tiny bell at distance.


Well, in short there was potion shop on level. We also stabilized three patches -- including stats spenseweed and stoma [also antidote and pepper].
Some dedicated wererat kicked in, which was locked away with her minions. That meant no disturbance in herb picking, but locked rats blocked shop.... At least we bought like 9 potions of water before that....
Rats caused sickness again, but some healing potions solved the case...



-You are boring kind...
-Kiku, just a tiny bit more of morgia...


I also blessed uncursed myself [forgetting not to uncurse stomacemptia:mad:]... Some herbs were sold at village to finance our needs...

After two weeks of herbal diet Kiku finally looked like some adventuring material, so we went westwards again... Dusty dungeon was not very exciting but we tried our unId scrolls...



-Prepare to die, you ugly...
-Kiku, that is me your best guide ever. Just stop chasing me and we will...
-Talkative monster soon you will be DEAD.


Well, i hit scroll of amnesia and did not have all stuff anems written down. Stupid me. On bright side i hit item detection which means we fetched teleport wand and soaked it into booze immediately.


Afterwards we went to the boring main cavern, through boring levels, past black stone block... Wait, that is fucken altar on S2. Damn it....

Tension room [rats again] on same level saved lots of grinding and soon we got....

Curses some forum talks. Curses gut and grey and they eternal love... Kiku got Protector... Good thing long term but utter shit before getting mellee weapon...

Persistent as we are we kept sucking live creatures followed by sacrificing our big heap [80ish] uncursed stoma. That was not enough for extreme, but...



-But you told...
-Just pray, Kiku, we are definitely in times of need.
-But that did not worked last five times.
-Let's hope Ssraxx is just checking our patience, miss.
-If you say so...
And Ssraxx send his second gift under our girls feet.


Well, stay tuned in order to found out if it was kickass weapon, tome of despair or... or something else...

little hint for enlightened persons:


Kiku St:17 Le:18 Wi:20 Dx:25 To:27 Ch:24 Ap:10 Ma:11 Pe:27 C
DV/PV: 78/16 H: 139(141) P: 41(41) Exp: 12/43277 S: 2 Sp: 108
Coward

ChaosMuffin
01-08-2011, 08:46 AM
wouldn't it be nice if Protector returned when thrown? :p

_Ln_
01-08-2011, 08:51 AM
little hint for enlightened persons:
[CODE]
Kiku St:17 Le:18 Wi:20 Dx:25 To:27 Ch:24 Ap:10 Ma:11 Pe:27 C
DV/PV: 78/16 H: 139(141) P: 41(41) Exp: 12/43277 S: 2 Sp: 108
Coward


Looks like crown of Leadership - not a weapon, but it rocks imho.

Will you go for a 3rd precrown?

Soirana
01-08-2011, 08:57 AM
Looks like crown of Leadership - not a weapon, but it rocks imho.

Will you go for a 3rd precrown?

no if go it must be crowning.

Crown is nice given i would not have much to put in that slot.

Being sissy coward as i am i think getting rolf axe would be good, just i don't imagine getting to L would be easy... On other hand feeding beggars stoma usually works... just need to check how long estimately it would take given char level.

Sian
01-08-2011, 10:04 AM
i've played a bit around with Elitist as well, and i'd guess Candle (or Raven) born Troll Healer would be the easiest, due to them having A) high resillience from health regen and a high Toughness and B) high enough strength for unarmed not being all that crappy, hence more likely to survive the early parts, up untill Dwarftown

Setremedes
01-08-2011, 10:10 AM
i've played a bit around with Elitist as well, and i'd guess Candle (or Raven) born Troll Healer would be the easiest, due to them having A) high resillience from health regen and a high Toughness and B) high enough strength for unarmed not being all that crappy, hence more likely to survive the early parts, up untill Dwarftown

Easiest? Soirana made it to D:48 blind, man. Blind.

(also, I'd think beastfighter would work a lot better than healer)

AlterAsc
01-08-2011, 10:15 AM
(also, I'd think beastfighter would work a lot better than healer)
Monk and beastfighter are uninteresting for for this challenge with their bonuses.

Grey
01-08-2011, 11:21 AM
Haha, getting Protector is quite funny after my jest before :) You could always wield the crown as your weapon ;)

Is Rolf's axe from the mystic or the elder? I can never remember... If the latter then I'm not even sure what the conditions are for it - I did some testing on it before and couldn't get the elder's gift reliably with a non-dwarf.

Any decent recipes from alchemy? Booze, for instance? If you get a fireproof blanket then you'll be a perfect machine for offensive alchemy.

I'm surprised you don't seem to be using Pick Pockets more. Do dreams of Preserver and BoW not tempt you?

Silfir
01-08-2011, 11:46 AM
It's from the Mystic. You have to be lawful instead of neutral.

Is the Hotzenplotz amulet of order out of the question?

Soirana
01-08-2011, 11:54 AM
It's from the Mystic. You have to be lawful instead of neutral.

Is the Hotzenplotz amulet of order out of the question?

that ammy is not artifact.... I am more inclined simply do Arena to get gladius. Not very sophisticated but should work.

Grey
01-08-2011, 12:07 PM
Yeah, that's a servicable weapon and easily enough obtained. I presume Big Punch will come later though.

gut
01-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Dwarf axe isn't worth 50% chance of SoCR.
Even a wielded Si looks good alongside Protector.
Is phial in pack? Might be a neck saver for some fights.

grobblewobble
01-08-2011, 08:33 PM
Maybe the Phial and SeeInvis from the crown are sufficient to win the last arena fight?

Silfir
01-08-2011, 11:12 PM
Arena is 20 dudes. You can do that with booze and wands.

Soirana
01-23-2011, 05:37 AM
-The only thing which is better than shiny artifacts
is bashing enemies with them.
Cause artifacts need to be washed in blood and other bofy fluids.
Kiku.


So girl put on new shiny crown and shield and we went deeper. I tried signing her for Arena, but she seemed to be too much involved into diving down....

D8 -- gave bees which we locked away and soon we found legendary dwarftown...



-Why we need shopping? There must be artifacts lying in here, just...
-Be reasonable, we just take a glance at wares.
-----
-Have you got any artifacts in the shop?
-Nope, but if i will kill you if you do damage to goods anyway.


Well, no artifacts in dwarftown shop, still we got -- wand of fire and potion of education... Potion teached Kiku survival skill....

Actually i was getting bored so did DT elder quests in order... Kill was hipogriff which we found few levels up in mixed tension room, passing forest was fast with controlled teleportation....
The only serious problem was local ogre nobles - but wand of fire solved that little problem.

Arena was also rather uneventful.... Kiku killed Ripclaw with ease and got her first weapon of the game....



-Move backwards and around priest.... No just don't step on that stone block....
-I am on fire already! What worse can happen?


We used demon to kill priest and altar to sac demon. Some gods got pissed off in their heavenly homes but we did not cared. At least i did not.

Oh, i nearly forgot we found ordinary ring just bellow animated forest... The one which refuses to be used in wilderness... Looks like gal has all the luck in the world.

After getting Big Punch life really become easier.... Went rather standard routine ---
killed mummy lord for ankh and armor - well i zap him with fireball wand usually anyway.
got stuff from dwarven graveyard -- kileed Grif in melee and than used retreat to corridor, throw phial and bash till dead tactics on necromancer.
oh, yes, we got phial too had to use more teleportation charges leaving us without booze but it is worth it.
Used same phials+bashing tactics to get torc.... Farmed more herbs, reshaping paterns a bit. Unluckily i lost stoma patch in process....

Last thing i did was run through UD... probably got only white altar from ineteresting features. Which means i can manipulate allignment at will.


Doesn't she look good?


Head : blessed crown of leadership [+2, +7] {Ch+18}
Neck : uncursed ankh
Body : uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8}
Girdle : -
Cloak : -
Right Hand : blessed lead-filled mace "Big Punch" (+1, 8d5+3) [-6, +0]
Left Hand : uncursed medium obsidian shield "Protector" [+20, +4] {To+2}
Right Ring : -
Left Ring : -
Bracers : -
Gauntlets : blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3]
Boots : -
Missile weapon: -
Missiles : uncursed black torc [+4, +2] (+10 spd)
Tool : blessed phial of Caladriel





-Never suspected you were susceptible to bulimia, miss.
-What do you mean?
-That is sixth large ration, miss, and they weight more than
5 kilos each after you throw away heating device...
-You mean that stupid mace makes me look fat?
-No, miss...
-It must be mace. C'mmon do i really look fat?

Well food consumption is becoming a rather problem....




Kiku St:20 Le:20 Wi:23 Dx:27 To:31 Ch:24 Ap: 4 Ma:11 Pe:27 C
DV/PV: 51/29 H: 212(212) P: 51(51) Exp: 16/161179 DrCh Sp: 99
Strained

Unarmed fighting 9 +6 +4 +3 excellent 22
Daggers & knives 5 +4 +2 +1 skilled 74
Maces & flails 7 +5 +3 +2 skilled 167
Swords 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 65
Shields 5 +10 skilled 80



Alchemy .................. 50 (fair) [+1d3]
Alertness ................ 94 (superb) [+1d5]
Archery .................. 23 (mediocre) [+3d5]
Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+3d4]
Climbing ................. 47 (fair) [+4d5]
Courage .................. 54 (good) [+2d4]
Detect traps ............. 72 (great) [+3d3]
Dodge .................... 79 (great) [+1d5]
Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
First aid ................ 67 (good) [+1d3]
Food preservation ........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 34 (fair) [+3d3]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy ................. 63 (good) [+1d5]
Pick locks ............... 43 (fair) [+4d5]
Pick pockets ............. 76 (great) [+1d5]
Stealth .................. 70 (good) [+3d5]
Survival ................. 23 (mediocre) [+3d3]
Swimming ................. 32 (fair) [+3d3]
Tactics .................. 44 (fair) [+1d5]
Two weapon combat ........ 48 (fair) [+3d4]


uncursed pick axe (+0, 1d6+4)
blessed waterproof blanket
blessed fireproof blanket
uncursed wand of digging (0 charges)
uncursed wand of trap creation (0 charges)
uncursed wand of stunning (4 charges)
blessed wand of teleportation (3 charges)
uncursed wand of fire (2 charges)
blessed wand of digging (2 charges)
blessed wand of fireballs (10 charges)
uncursed wand of cold (4 charges)
uncursed wand of paralyzation (4 charges)
uncursed wand of far slaying (5 charges)
uncursed wand of webbing (12 charges)
uncursed wand of door creation (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of fire (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of light (4 charges) [4s]

heap of 2 blessed potions of invisibility [8s]
heap of 10 potions of holy water [40s]
potion of unholy water [4s]
blessed potion of extra healing [2s]
uncursed potion of strength [4s]
blessed potion of booze [4s]
uncursed scroll of magic mapping [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [4s]
uncursed scroll of vermin control [2s]
spellbook of Fire Bolt [100s]
blessed spellbook of Frost Bolt [100s]
spellbook of Light [100s]

40196 gold pieces [401s]
uncursed crystal of power [1s]
cursed crystal of knowledge [1s]
uncursed ruby [1s]


2089 monsters perished under her attacks.

1 animated tree
1 black druid
23 blink dogs
1 bone golem
3 carrion crawlers
1 cyclops
2 dark elven archers
1 dark elven lord
2 dark elven priestesses
4 dark elven warriors
2 dark elven wizards
2 gelatinous cubes
39 ghuls
10 giant ant warriors
4 giant ant workers
14 giant bats
1 giant bee queen
38 giant bee warriors
15 giant bee workers
160 giant rats
76 goblins
59 goblin rockthrowers
17 goblin slavemasters
5 gray oozes
1 greater daemon
37 gremlins
1 griffon
67 jackals
3 jackal demons
6 jackalweres
1 karmic lizard
1 mummy lord
1 necromancer
37 ogres
1 ogre guardian
1 ogre lord
2 ogre magi
97 orcs
267 rats
101 skeletons
1 troll berserker
1 undead chaos dwarven berserker
90 wolves
81 zombies


She survived for 0 years, 57 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes and 14 seconds
(67619 turns).
Kiku visited 54 places.
Her strength score was modified by +5 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +4 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +12 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +13 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +15 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +2 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +13 during her career.
She was the champion of the arena.



The question is what i do wish for?
AoLS - have one stashed.
7LB- can't wear them.
wands of paralyzation have two already.
Concentration? -- well, it might be better not to make wizard out of her....


Among a problems i saw ---- karmic lizard room in main dungeon. Luckily we simply locked them.... Just reminds me to do pool sipping [for invis and preferably paralysis resist] as soon as we can remove dooming.

Basically game seems to be in bag now.

nathrakh
01-23-2011, 07:36 AM
What are PoGA ingredients? ;-)

Soirana
01-23-2011, 08:08 AM
What are PoGA ingredients? ;-)

need another 50 points in alchemy... Although pot of strength and pot of cure corruption i guess.

gut
01-23-2011, 11:04 AM
heal potions for wish

and yes, that PC is looking very powerful now

Sian
01-24-2011, 01:11 AM
tower is going to be interesting through without anything remotely Fire resisting

Soirana
01-24-2011, 03:50 AM
tower is going to be interesting through without anything remotely Fire resisting

huh? fireproof blanket - check
artifact gear - check
inner fire resist - check
elemental gauntlets - check
ring of the high kings -- coming soon.

What's the problem?

Soirana
01-30-2011, 01:52 PM
-I do not wise be wise old assassin. I want to be young and beautiful again.
Kiku....



Started on doing stuff dragging to the shop to generate some gold.... Afterwards checked steel golems. Apparently Kiku could handle them reasonable well.

Reasonably means i was pushing damage in only in criticals but they got killed eventually...

Got two more levels getting Immune to the pain talent [mostly for upcomming ToEF].

Loot in DarkForge was absolutely not interesting. Best was probaly eternium scimitar or something like that....

Pools did not went good either. Saw invisibility just once and paralysis never appeared. Got tptitis, see invisb and death resist at end. Also lost fire resist...

Did some routinal stuff --- moved Kiku to neutral, ate Oracle, removed doom and curse under our new goddess.

TotHK was fairly unineteresting, well RNg tried some mixture of jackals, spiders at bee hive at some point but these got hamerred down with Big Punch eventually.

Tomb itself, we just zapped cold wand and bashed skeletal king on melee range. Good base damage +blessed weapon does wonders...
Since we picked some nice healing potions from dwarven quest we visited tower too....

3 very boring levels....


Kiku after opening door.
-Huh, never saw these type of...
Soirana carefully closes door:
-Maybe we will go with easier target, miss, like l'lle chaos dragon...

Actually there was higher end lich room [clearly not tension type] in there. Very luckily Kiku passed stealth check and we locked them away....

I would like to say remaining part wa sepic, but it was not. Paralysis wand did a job and we bashed for the orb... Simple as that.

Honestly now it is just formalities left [and gold dragging to do the crowning].





Kiku St:30 Le:25 Wi:29 Dx:30 To:31 Ch:24 Ap: 2 Ma:11 Pe:27 N=
DV/PV: 106/32 H: 256(256) P: 77(77) Exp: 19/450601 M: 78297


Total weight: 2741 stones Carrying capacity: 4875 stones

Head : blessed crown of leadership [+2, +7] {Ch+18} [65s]
Neck : uncursed ankh [3s]
Body : uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
Girdle : -
Cloak : -
Right Hand : blessed lead-filled mace "Big Punch" (+1, 8d5+3) [-6, +0]
Left Hand : uncursed medium obsidian shield "Protector" [+20, +4] {To+2}
Right Ring : -
Left Ring : ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
Bracers : -
Gauntlets : blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Boots : -
Missile weapon: -
Missiles : blessed phial of Caladriel [2s]
Tool : Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire [100s]


P.s. fetched scroll in HMV and got no chaos resistance scrolls from mystic.

gut
01-31-2011, 08:02 AM
hmm, i think that may be as good as your equipment gets.
should be enough though, with care

Soirana
01-31-2011, 10:48 AM
hmm, i think that may be as good as your equipment gets.
should be enough though, with care

If we skip my hopes to be crowned with cloak.... It is still ring of master cat and runed trident [later as ultimate missile weapon] upcomming....

Also whatever casino and vaults bring in....

Soirana
02-10-2011, 11:40 AM
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Kiku St:40 Le:28 Wi:32 Dx:47 To:37 Ch:29 Ap: 3 Ma:16 Pe:30 N=
DV/PV: 50/44 H: 334(334) P: 118(118) Exp: 23/1280046 D: 42 Sp: 132
Blessed Berserk
M: 86276


After delivering Wyrms corpse we went all in to diving down.

Khelly was saved and gave us some needed scrolls.
Water temple was easy with one scroll of darkness used up...



-So i bless and eat this ugly lizard?
-Yes, and follow with this frehly brewed potion...

Luck was till on our side Kiku got lightning immunity at banshee level from lightning lizard corpse. We did not needed even to kill it...

We hacked through dark eleven vault, passed wall of frames and satisfied Eternal guardian... Rather boring... And when we arrived at Casinoi with all the slots machines and da shop....

Well, we picked much basic stuff in shop. It also had artifact -- black tome... Well, not that lucky as usual.



-So, i just close my eyes, push money in slot and keep playing... Won't it take long?
-As long as you close eyes and keep handle pushed no at all...


Got my money for precrown [guides work on percentage from divine offerings and push adventures towards the one who pays best, haven't you know this?]

Well.... Well.... I hoped for cloak but it was jet-black axe... Guess we are all in axes when...

Got kitty ring and reached Air temple... messed a bit in where as we failed to disable Summoner from distance and hat tom make close to him to make phial work...
Luckily no nonsense summons like Emperor liches happened.

D39....


Kiku opens doorr. Twhang! 100hp goes away.
-That was quite lucky shot you green faced...
Twhang! Twhang! Two more eternium quarrels connect doing heavy damage....


Luckily we still had some source of darkness... In dark these were mighty fine guys -- good experience and tasty corpses....

Went a bit further down stopping at vault with black dragons.... Guess should tackle them.




Unarmed fighting 9 +6 +4 +3 excellent 20
Daggers & knives 5 +4 +2 +1 skilled 74
Maces & flails 10 +9 +6 +3 excellent 799
Swords 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 65
Axes 8 +6 +5 +2 excellent 670

Shields 8 +16 excellent 404
[Shields could use more tarining]

Light: 194, 3pp (Effectivity: +0)


Alchemy .................. 59 (good) [+1d3]
Alertness ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Archery .................. 23 (mediocre) [+3d5]
Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+3d4]
Climbing ................. 47 (fair) [+4d5]
Courage ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Detect traps ............. 94 (superb) [+2d4]
Dodge .................... 91 (superb) [+1d5]
Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
First aid ................ 72 (great) [+1d3]
Food preservation ........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 34 (fair) [+3d3]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy ................. 70 (good) [+1d5]
Pick locks ............... 44 (fair) [+4d5]
Pick pockets ............. 90 (great) [+1d5]
Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+3d3]
Survival ................. 35 (fair) [+3d3]
Swimming ................. 38 (fair) [+3d3]
Tactics .................. 71 (great) [+1]
Two weapon combat ........ 48 (fair) [+3d4]



You have grown thorns (3d3 melee damage, Dx: -2, Ap: -3).



He: blessed crown of leadership [+2, +7] {Ch+18} [65s]
Ne: uncursed ankh [3s]
Bo: uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
Gi: -
Cl: -
RH: blessed jet-black battle axe (named) (+2, 5d6+6) [-4, +1] {St+3} (+3 spd)
LH: uncursed medium obsidian shield (named) [+20, +4] {To+2} [46s]
RR: cats eye ring [1s]
LR: blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
Br: -
Ga: blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Bo: -
MW: -
Mi: -
Tl: uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10} [100s]



3122 monsters perished under her attacks.

11 air demons
9 air elementals
2 air grues
1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm
1 battle bunny
1 master mimic [gift shop]
1 master necromancer
1 Master Summoner
1 mummy lord
1 skeletal king
1 Snake from Beyond
30 steel golems
9 titans [not very big room of them]
1 undead chaos dwarven berserker
9 vampires


She was unnaturally aged by 34 years.
She was the champion of the arena.
She adhered to the principles of the Cat Lord and thus rose to great fame.
She saved Khelavaster from certain death.

[one of wishes likely goes into pots of youth as it is certain way to get killed under some situations]

Soirana
02-12-2011, 12:20 PM
-Let's chop away some nasty dragons.
Kiku, leaving equipment upstairs.


Black dragons gave a couple of levels and artifact... Whirlwind... Sucky RNG.

We went further down getting few more levels and one more orb in Earth temple. Would call that heroic but it mainly consisted of arround 30 fireballs from a wand... We left chaos corpse behind and pressed onwards...

D46 was truly exiting vault -- greater undead. We went down leaving it undisturbed. used first wish for potions of youth since Alchemy failed to deliver good recipe...

UL2- i learned new thingy Shadow trolls can walk on water... Must be more shadows than trolls.
UL5- dropped room of greater fire elementals and we totally dug arround them. Well, they do not give good xp, are not vulnerable to Executor and can score massive criticals. Thank, but no.

UL6- gave room of living walls. killed afew which went after Kiku.

Archmage was chopped away while blind from phial and we went towards another branch of dungeon...

on d48 we had a problem in orm of greater karmic wyrm. Nothing a few teleports could not solved. Kiku went to lv32 on grues.

well, i did not had wand of dstruction so decided to end in epic fashion chopping away all stuff down there.

Was a bit ugly [all chaos resitance means and arround 15 healing potions] but it went good.



Kiku:
-Come here, you red assed bastard.
Fistinarius summons more minions.
Djinni:
-What do you wish for?
Soirana:
-Bansh... Acid b... Charging s...
Djinni:
-Make up your mind mortal...
Soirana:
-Speed.


So last wish went on speed:). Helped to chop away greater balor and get hands on chaos wizards greatly.

Way up was mostly unexiciting, we also dealt with unicorns. Black one went away in two chops, so Kiku could clear stupid corruptions.

Soirana
02-12-2011, 12:34 PM
Kiku St:31 Le:30 Wi:33 Dx:53 To:41 Ch:29 Ap: 8 Ma:19 Pe:30 N+
DV/PV: 97/46 H: 867(867) P: 266(266) Exp: 50/18674079 DrCh Sp: 134
Blessed Satiated

He: blessed crown of leadership [+2, +7] {Ch+18}
Ne: uncursed ankh
Bo: uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8}
Gi: -
Cl: -
RH: blessed jet-black battle axe (named) (+2, 5d6+6) [-4, +1] {St+3} (+3 spd)
LH: uncursed medium obsidian shield (named) [+20, +4] {To+2} [46s]
RR: uncursed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd) [1s]
LR: blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3]
Br: -
Ga: blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3]
Bo: -
MW: -
Mi: heap of 29 uncursed sis [D49 all the way:)
Tl: -

Helmets ('[')
uncursed crown of science [+4, +8] {Le+9}
Necklaces (''')
uncursed black torc [+4, +2] (+10 spd)
One-handed weapons ('(')
blessed lead-filled mace "Big Punch" (+1, 8d5+3) [-6, +0]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed rune-covered sling "Whirlwind" (+12, +12)
Tools (']')
heap of 8 blessed bandages
blessed fireproof blanket
uncursed magical writing set (5)
Rings ('=')
heap of 2 blessed brass rings
Wands ('\')
blessed wand of fireballs (0 charges)
uncursed wand of cold (0 charges)
uncursed wand of paralyzation (0 charges)
blessed wand of digging (2 charges)
blessed wand of poison (10 charges)
Potions ('!')
heap of 5 uncursed potions of exchange
heap of 36 potions of holy water
heap of 5 blessed potions of extra healing
heap of 4 uncursed potions of boost speed
blessed phial of Caladriel
blessed potion of invisibility
heap of 4 uncursed potions of ultra healing
heap of 2 blessed potions of training
uncursed potion of potential dexterity
cursed potion of potential strength
uncursed potion of oil
uncursed potion of water
uncursed potion of youth
uncursed potion of booze
uncursed potion of extra healing
uncursed potion of training
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of repair
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of luck
cursed scroll of satiation
heap of 2 blessed scrolls of identify
uncursed IBM guild manual
cursed scroll of darkness
Food ('%')
heap of 53 uncursed pepper petals
heap of 20 cursed cooked lizards
heap of 6 uncursed cooked lizards
heap of 2 uncursed lumps of bee wax
Gems ('*')
cursed crystal of knowledge
uncursed crystal of darkness


Unarmed fighting 9 +6 +4 +3 excellent 20
Daggers & knives 5 +4 +2 +1 skilled 74
Maces & flails 10 +9 +6 +3 excellent 662
Axes 12 +12 +10 +3 Mastery 918

Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
--------------------- --- --- ------------- --------------
Shields 10 +20 excellent 417


Alchemy .................. 60 (good) [+1]
Alertness ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Archery .................. 85 (great) [+1d3]
Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+3d4]
Climbing .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Courage ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Detect traps .............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Dodge ....................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
First aid ................ 93 (superb) [+1d3]
Food preservation ........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 68 (good) [+1d3]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy .................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Pick locks ...............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Pick pockets .............100 (superb) [+1d5]
Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+3d3]
Survival ................. 66 (good) [+1d3]
Swimming ................. 72 (great) [+1d3]
Tactics ..................100 (superb) [+1]
Two weapon combat ........ 94 (superb) [+1d5]



Light: 182, 3pp (Effectivity: +2)


Her further life:


After she left the Drakalor Chain, Kiku was welcomed by her people with great
gifts, which unluckily included no artifacts.

They acknowledged her noble quest, greed and
collection of shinies that accidentally helped to prevent
the complete destruction of the all known world.
She returned to her homeland victorious and is hailed as a great
looter.
Eventually she became queen and ruled with an iron
fist in elemental gauntlets, for quite a time,
allowing her people to seek more teassure for them and their queen.

Her achievements during her adventures:

Kiku, the human assassin, saved the world with her brave efforts and became
a great ruler while saving herself 10 times.
She scored 20896600 points and advanced to level 50.
She survived for 0 years, 101 days, 9 hours, 53 minutes and 13 seconds
(95691 turns). [under 100k turns, i must be speeding lately:)]
1 companion was killed during her adventures. [d50 greater Earth elemental]
Kiku visited 109 places.
Her strength score was modified by +13 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +14 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +22 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +23 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +25 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +5 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +6 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +8 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +16 during her career.
She was the champion of the arena.
She adhered to the principles of the Cat Lord and thus rose to great fame.
She saved Khelavaster from certain death.
She left the Drakalor Chain after completing her quest and became a great
leader and famous heroine.
3510 monsters perished under her attacks.
The following 24 artifacts were generated during her adventure:
the si
the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle"
the ring of the master cat
the golden gladius "Death's Sting"
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Air
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth
the lead-filled mace "Big Punch"
the sword of Nonnak
the elemental gauntlets
the ring of the High Kings
the phial of Caladriel
the crown of science
the ancient mummy wrapping
the ankh
the black torc
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Mana
the rune-covered sling "Whirlwind"
the jet-black battle axe "Executor"
the medium obsidian shield "Protector"
the sapphire amulet "Preserver" [greater undead vault i guess?]
the crown of leadership
the black tome of Alsophocus
She possessed the following intrinsics:
She was fire resistant (enhanced through items).
She was poison resistant (enhanced through items).
She was cold resistant (enhanced through items).
She was acid resistant.
She was lucky (enhanced through an item).
Fate smiled upon her (enhanced through items).
She was cursed (gained through an item).
She was sleep resistant (enhanced through items).
She was able to teleport.
She was able to control teleportation.
She was stun resistant (enhanced through items).
She was resistant to death rays (enhanced through an item).
She was shock resistant (enhanced through items).
She was able to see invisible things (enhanced through items).
She was immune to shock attacks.
She was immune to acidic attacks.
She was immune to ice attacks (gained through an item).
She was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through items).
She had the following talents: Affinity with Axes, Careful, Defensive
Fighter, Dodger, Greased Lightning, Hardy, Immune to Pain, Iron Skin, Long
Stride, Quick, Shield Expert, Shield Master, Shield Specialist, Steel Skin,
Tough Skin, Very Careful, Very Hardy, Very Quick.
She had a final speed score of 134 (final base speed: 120).
She was a messiah of Istaria.
She asked for 23 divine interventions. [mostly praying for precrowns at not exactly guaranteed level of piety]
She was a holy champion of Balance.

The following monsters of interest were vanquished:
20 ancient black dragons
1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm
7 ancient red dragons [d50 helped to clear some other folk quite handily]
1 Ancient Stone Beast
9 balors
1 banshee
1 black druid
1 bunny master
1 Chaos Archmage
147 chaos servants
49 chaos warriors
19 chaos wizards
23 earth elementals
2 fire elementals
3 frost giant jarls
1 great black wyrm
1 greater balor
1 greater black unicorn
119 greater chaos servants
1 greater daemon
2 greater fire elementals
5 living walls
1 master mimic
1 master necromancer
1 Master Summoner
1 mummy lord
1 oracle
1 quickling king
1 skeletal king
1 Snake from Beyond
30 steel golems
9 titans
1 undead chaos dwarven berserker
92 writhing masses of primal chaos

gut
02-12-2011, 09:21 PM
one more insane challenge under your belt.

Grey
02-12-2011, 11:23 PM
Nicely done! Glad to see you used no cheap tricks on D50.

Deg
02-13-2011, 01:21 AM
Very Nice.

I wonder whats next up for you? :)

Soirana
02-13-2011, 03:40 AM
Very Nice.

I wonder whats next up for you? :)

Assassin carbon fiber?

Know it has been done on monk, but assassin is different story...

Sian
02-13-2011, 01:33 PM
go reverse ... no artifacts in any slots at all :P

JellySlayer
02-14-2011, 02:33 AM
How about the same thing, but only use artifacts for everything (ie. no potions, scrolls, gems, etc.)?

Soirana
02-14-2011, 03:43 AM
How about the same thing, but only use artifacts for everything (ie. no potions, scrolls, gems, etc.)?

no food too?

JellySlayer
02-14-2011, 04:21 AM
no food too?

Not to carry, no. Eat off the ground is fine.

Aielyn
02-14-2011, 04:37 AM
How about the same thing, but only use artifacts for everything (ie. no potions, scrolls, gems, etc.)?

I'm guessing the biggest challenge in that idea would be getting hold of Hammerhead, since you can't use normal pickaxes, you can't use wands of digging, and, since Soirana is talking about using an assassin, you can't kick down walls. So unless Soirana is allowed to pick up a spellbook for long enough to read it and get Mystic Shovel (which would be hard enough to read as an assassin, I'm assuming), Hammerhead would be the only way to reasonably get into the temples.

Or am I mistaken?

JellySlayer
02-14-2011, 05:44 AM
I'm guessing the biggest challenge in that idea would be getting hold of Hammerhead, since you can't use normal pickaxes, you can't use wands of digging, and, since Soirana is talking about using an assassin, you can't kick down walls. So unless Soirana is allowed to pick up a spellbook for long enough to read it and get Mystic Shovel (which would be hard enough to read as an assassin, I'm assuming), Hammerhead would be the only way to reasonably get into the temples.

Or am I mistaken?

Yes, there'd presumably have to be some allowance for digging to the Temples. Scumming for Hammerhead would be much less fun.

Soirana
02-14-2011, 11:38 AM
Not to carry, no. Eat off the ground is fine.

Well, no herbs means severe limitation on races.... Stuff like elves and humans are basically out of business... Maybe i will leave this one for you.