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timeywimey
06-14-2013, 05:06 PM
1.2 pre5

Do we need to be extremely corrupted or not? Tried googling, but apparently I'm too intoxicated for that stuff. And I don't think this forum has too much discussion going on so I'm probably not committing a mortal sin asking :). I remember reading from somewhere that we lose the champion status if we enter the gate while not extremely corrupted.

I've gone through the gate once L+ but it was years back.

Also I realize I'm not even close yet (ToeFF is next) and will likely perish because of hubris. The rng has been favorable, but has also been trying to kill me all the time. 3 wishes so far (one unused) but also tons of gorgons.. lucked out on 2 breaths so far.

Dark elf Mindcrafter (candle).

I haven't fetched the crown yet, but I do have the medal. Now If I only found a spellbook of lightning bolt I could maybe wish for the emperor and bolt away since I got the spell from \oWonder..


e: I'm asking because my last one was UNE and my scrolls were pretty low in the end and this time the mystic didn't give me any (and no 100 deaths so no bug temple either). ALthough I think L+ gets a lot less corrupted over time, yes?

e2: also, first 2 corruptions: acid blood & tough scales. not complaining :]


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Zuy St:40 Le:23 Wi:42 Dx:25 To:34 Ch:14 Ap:16 Ma:32 Pe:23 L+
DV/PV: 57/47 H: 335(335) P: 388(388) Exp: 24/1757978 D: 1 Sp: 105
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Zuy St:40 Le:23 Wi:42 Dx:25 To:34 Ch:14 Ap:16 Ma:32 Pe:23 L+
DV/PV: 57/47 H: 335(335) P: 388(388) Exp: 24/1757978 M: 88508


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Inventory
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Total weight: 4925 stones Carrying capacity: 7875 stones

He: uncursed eternium cap [+0, +4] [28s]
Ne: blessed ankh [3s]
Bo: uncursed eternium plate mail of power (-1, -2) [-1, +13] [240s]
Gi: blessed girdle of giant strength [+0, +0] {St+12} [30s]
Cl: blessed Brannalbin's Cloak of Defense [+3, +3] [30s]
RH: blessed rune-covered heavy mace "Purifier" (+5, 4d5+5) [-4, +1] {Wi+4}
LH: uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+13, +4] [70s]
RR: uncursed ring of slaying (+8 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
LR: blessed ring of ice [1s]
Br: uncursed bracers of defense [+5, +0] [10s]
Ga: uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
MW: uncursed rustproof heavy crossbow of accuracy (+11, +3) [140s]
Mi: bundle of 4 uncursed mithril quarrels (+1, 2d6+3) [8s]
Tl: uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10} [100s]

JellySlayer
06-14-2013, 06:59 PM
You do not need to be extremely corrupted to enter the gate as L+. L+ does have slightly reduced corruption rates as well.

timeywimey
06-14-2013, 07:13 PM
You do not need to be extremely corrupted to enter the gate as L+. L+ does have slightly reduced corruption rates as well.

alright. Almost died at the casino. Robes of resistance + a bunch of useful potions.. just couldn't be arsed to grind the gold so I aggroed and was left with 80/4xx after first turn.. Left the shopkeeper to his ravings and advanced onwards. Still no chaos crown (day 106, got slb's too late for 90d) and only a few dragon slaying quarrels. I do have a lot of familiar summoning scrolls though. Meh, this just seems like such an easy ultra but you never know..

e: just scribed a scroll of education. 10 mana. 10?!? I guess mindcrafters have some serious issues scribing stuff, since IIRC it's like 5 mana for a ?oCR (not going to try what it's for me atm).

ee: l41 atm, all orbs, ACW down etc. Dunno what to do, need 4 levels and can't handle greater molochs easily. I did spot a mithril long sword of penetration @ casino though.. maybe pump it up and wish for emperor, dunno. Gotta get some zz from adom now->

JellySlayer
06-15-2013, 01:48 AM
Blue dragon caves gives a boatload of xps. It's on your way anyway.

grobblewobble
06-15-2013, 06:35 AM
Dunno what to do, need 4 levels and can't handle greater molochs easily. I did spot a mithril long sword of penetration @ casino
You should be able to handle greater molochs if you use the so-called "hack&back" technique. Let the greater moloch advance until it is standing next to you, hit it once, then retreat one step. Repeat until the moloch is dead. They will never be able to hit you. Especially if you make the wish in the barbarian's glade, you always have escape routes there (I assume you have some source of water breathing to swim easily).

Purifier is perfect for killing them, it slays demons. It might even work better than the sword of penetration.

timeywimey
06-15-2013, 09:11 AM
You should be able to handle greater molochs if you use the so-called "hack&back" technique. Let the greater moloch advance until it is standing next to you, hit it once, then retreat one step. Repeat until the moloch is dead. They will never be able to hit you. Especially if you make the wish in the barbarian's glade, you always have escape routes there (I assume you have some source of water breathing to swim easily).

Purifier is perfect for killing them, it slays demons. It might even work better than the sword of penetration.

I dunno what I'm doing wrong, but I always take some hurt when killing stuff that way :p But might aswell go for it..

e: then again I have wyrmlance so I could grind the blue dragon caves for a while. But I have some really cool/nice/useful corruptions atm and only 8 or 7 scrolls left.. but then again I have that writing set [5] and not much use for mana tbh.


Blue dragon caves gives a boatload of xps. It's on your way anyway.

didn't notice your post, but yeah. Only downside is the corrupting nature of that place.. but I think I'm going to grind 4mil there because of loot (if I get another wish it's going to be SoCR)

grobblewobble
06-15-2013, 10:22 AM
I wouldn't want to lose the mana. Greater Telekinetic Blast is so good to have (and you need mana for it). In fact, if you're afraid of taking on GMs in melee you could use GTB?

I also totally recommend turning all your worthless potions into potions of raw chaos and dipping them into each other on D:1. You get wishes (via PoE) and POGA's. And lots of booze.

timeywimey
06-15-2013, 10:25 AM
I also totally recommend turning all your worthless potions into potions of raw chaos and dipping them into each other on D:1. You get wishes (via PoE) and POGA's. And lots of booze.

Safe? do I just "!" potion of -foo- on crown/medal -> !oRC?

e: I gave the scythe to the ratling. Haven't practiced this kind of alchemy ever :]

grobblewobble
06-15-2013, 10:33 AM
Dipping the potions into a corrupting artifact will sometimes corrupt you a little. I believe that wearing the elemental gauntlets will lower the amount of corruption (but not entirely sure about that). Having high dexterity definitely helps (you will spill less often), so best equip the rune-covered trident and the orb of elemental air first.

The second step, dipping potions of raw chaos into potions of raw chaos, is safe as long as you do it on D:1. But be sure not to dip the wrong potion.

timeywimey
06-15-2013, 10:35 AM
Dipping the potions into a corrupting artifact will sometimes corrupt you a little. I believe that wearing the elemental gauntlets will lower the amount of corruption (but not entirely sure about that). Having high dexterity definitely helps (you will spill less often), so best equip the rune-covered trident and the orb of elemental air first.

The second step, dipping potions of raw chaos into potions of raw chaos, is safe as long as you do it on D:1. But be sure not to dip the wrong potion.

Ok, I'll be trying this out when I reload the game. Thanks. Always learning new stuff even after years of adom :]

grobblewobble
06-15-2013, 11:13 AM
One thing, you need to dip the potions of raw chaos into each other one at a time and ADOM will think you want to dip whole stacks at once. A workaround is to equip one potion into your melee slot and then dip it.

timeywimey
06-15-2013, 12:50 PM
oh, lol. Seems I'm l47. Must've played for some time yesterday while totally drunk. Hmh.. I'm gonna dip some potions anyway, since I'm not comfortable taking on the emperor just yet.

e: woke up at the casino, apparently I killed the shopkeeper for xp yesterday. 2 shopkeepers killed so far (dwarf town, had a weird accident there which aggroed the shopkeeper but no-one else) and avg is 1.65mil so the casino one was pretty valuable :]

e2: uh.. 49 bandits killed (first kill). Time to dive I guess........................

Stingray1
06-15-2013, 01:33 PM
oh, lol. Seems I'm l47. Must've played for some time yesterday while totally drunk.

Reminds me of my learning adom days, is perhaps why it took me 3 years to get my 1st win. Are you save-scumming?

timeywimey
06-15-2013, 01:37 PM
Reminds me of my learning adom days, is perhaps why it took me 3 years to get my 1st win. Are you save-scumming?

Not scumming. Hell no. I used to do that when I first found adom (thought it was a bug that savefiles were deleted lol) back in I don't even remember when (pre 1.0 anyway) though. Don't even see the point in scumming, as every character is basically a quaranteed win - where's the fun in that? :)

e: adom was also my first roguelike, hence the savefile disappearing: must be a bug - thing.

Stingray1
06-15-2013, 01:45 PM
Oh, ok. I asked because you said you lucked out on 2 breaths from gorgons?

timeywimey
06-15-2013, 01:53 PM
Oh, ok. I asked because you said you lucked out on 2 breaths from gorgons?

Yeah, I meant that they didn't hit me. :]

e: dipped stuff. got 1 PoGA,1 !oE (no luck) lots of booze, 1 !oLearning. Now ID dive.

e: 7 SoCR atm (not sure if I've fetched the HMV one). I think I'll use that wish for a few more, but we'll see.

e666: http://www.twitch.tv/95windows filk

e63: got filk, saved. I'll finish this game tomorrow.. now some planetside 2->.