Is this pure CK ready for ToEF?

[Stingray1]

So, this is what my pure ChAoS kNiGhT looks like after clearing UD, CoC up to Wall of Flames, Terinyo(except farmers), Holeinthewall, DT,HMV(Hawkslayer, Leggot is still alive), DF, Pyramid, Assassin's guild and obtaining the 1st part. She can still do TotHK, Library, Mino Maze, Bugcave(unlikely),Quicklings, but I think she is ready now? I however will do the TotHK, library and mino first. Just for those interested; no grinding, herb farming or any other scummy tactics(starsign rolling and re-rolling and shit like that) were used and the ID levels was dived/climbed whenever the stairs were located. Turncount is probably due to my love of missile combat and some cooking for crowning.


HurCK St:21 Le:18 Wi:23 Dx:17 To:23 Ch: 2 Ap: 1 Ma:17 Pe:15 C-
DV/PV: 91/23 H: 350(350) P: 124(124) Exp: 24/1656556 M: 92311

Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Unarmed fighting 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 3
Daggers & knives 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 12
Clubs & hammers 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 12
Maces & flails 7 +5 +3 +2 skilled 61
Swords 12 +12 +8 +4 Mastery 447
Axes 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 12
Whips 3 +3 +1 +3 basic 12
Pole arms 10 +10 +6 +12 excellent 70
Twohanded weapons 13 +16 +21 +5 Mastery 548
Staves 8 +8 +3 +14 excellent 66

Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
--------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
Slings 12 +24 +18 +4 Mastery 1498
Bows 10 +20 +15 +3 excellent 627
Crossbows 8 +16 +12 +2 excellent 66
Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown rocks & clubs 6 +12 +9 +2 skilled 56
Thrown spears 1 +2 +1 +0 basic 12
Boomerangs & scurgari 1 +2 +1 +0 basic 3

Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 7 +14 skilled 364


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +21 bonus to hit, 1d8+9 damage


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 1, base range: 10, +32 bonus to hit, 1d6+27 damage

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Skills
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Archery .................. 74 (great) [+1]
Athletics ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+3d3]
Bridge building .......... 17 (mediocre) [+3d5] (mr)
Climbing .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Cooking .................. 68 (good) [+0] (ma)
Detect traps ............. 56 (good) [+1]
Dodge .................... 70 (good) [+1d3]
Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+1d5]
First aid ................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Food preservation ........ 80 (great) [+1]
Gardening ................ 18 (mediocre) [+0]
Haggling ................. 22 (mediocre) [+1d5]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Literacy ................. 59 (good) [+1]
Pick locks ............... 39 (fair) [+1d5]
Pick pockets ............. 65 (good) [+1]
Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Swimming ................. 6 (poor) [+4d5]
Two weapon combat ........ 9 (poor) [+4d5]


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Effects of Corruption
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Your frontal eyes have merged to form one larger eye (Ch: -2, Ap: -2, Pe:
+4).
Poison drips from your hands.
You have grown thorns (3d3 melee damage, Dx: -2, Ap: -3).
Your flesh continually spouts disease-ridden maggots (To: -6, Ch: -2, Ap:
-4, DV: +4).
Your legs have stretched into long, fragile stilts (Base movement cost: 750
energy points; PV: -4; -4 kicking damage; Ap: -6).
Your feet have been transformed into hooves (+8 kicking damage, Dx: -6).
Your blood is freezingly cold (Dx: -2, Ap: -1, -10 speed).
You have become very light (1/10 weight, St: -6, Dx: +4, To: -6, Ap: -6, +20
speed).
Your bones are made from bronze (Dx: -2, DV: -2, PV: +3).


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Inventory
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Total weight: 4010 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Head : -
Neck : blessed ankh [3s]
Body : uncursed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5}[60s]
Girdle : blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Cloak : blessed light cloak [+3, +0] [20s]
Right Hand : blessed mithril scimitar of vampirism (+3, 1d8+3) [32s]
Left Hand : uncursed large eternium shield (-1) [+11, +5] [54s]
Right Ring : uncursed ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd) [1s]
Left Ring : cursed ring of gain attribute {To+1} [1s]
Bracers : blessed rusty bracers of regeneration [+0, +0] [18s]
Gauntlets : uncursed red leather gauntlets (+1, +1) [+3, +1] [10s]
Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
Missile Weapon: uncursed short bow (+3, +3) [20s]
Missiles : arrow (+0, 1d6+3) [2s]
Tool : Chaos Orb of Elemental Water [100s]


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Stuff
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Total weight: 3644 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Helmets ('[')
uncursed mithril cap [+0, +2] [40s]
Shields ('[')
blessed medium eternium shield (+1) [+9, +6] [46s]
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
uncursed white leather gauntlets [+0, +1] [10s]
uncursed blue dragon-hide gauntlets (-2, +0) [+0, +2] [10s]
blessed gloves of carrying [+3, +0] [6s]
light gloves [6s]
white gauntlets [10s]
Cloaks ('[')
warm cloak [20s]
Girdles ('[')
uncursed adamantium girdle [+0, +4] [18s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed amulet of defense +2 [3s]
heap of 6 uncursed amulets of light [18s]
blessed amulet of chaos [3s]
blessed amulet of perseverance {Wi+3} [3s]
uncursed amulet of health [3s]
cursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
bronze amulet [3s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
uncursed pick axe (+2, 1d6+1) [75s]
blessed pick axe (+0, 1d6+1) [75s]
scimitar [19s]
short sword [30s]
dagger [10s]
long sword [20s]
broadsword [80s]
broken knife [8s]
spear [50s]
Two-handed weapons ('(')
blessed spiked maul of devastation "Foeslammer" (+12, 6d8+6) [-4, +0]
quarterstaff [40s]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed long bow (+2, +2) [30s]
uncursed sling (+3, +1) [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed light crossbows of accuracy (+8, +0) [140s]
uncursed sling (+2, +4) [3s]
cursed light crossbow [70s]
sling [3s]
heap of 2 slings [6s]
short bow [20s]
Missiles ('*')
bundle of 5 uncursed mithril drakish scurgari (+5, 1d8+5) [40s]
bundle of 7 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [28s]
uncursed adamantium drakish scurgar (+7, 1d8+8) [7s]
bundle of 6 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [12s]
uncursed arrow of targeting (+6, 1d6+2) [2s]
bundle of 10 uncursed quarrels of jelly slaying (+3, 2d6+2) [40s]
bundle of 10 uncursed quarrels of demon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [40s]
bundle of 4 uncursed arrows of construct slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [8s]
uncursed penetrating arrow (+0, 1d6) [2s]
bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels of construct slaying (+6, 2d6+3) [20s]
bundle of 3 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+1, 2d6+7) [3s]
bundle of 7 uncursed arrows of jelly slaying (+4, 2d4+3) [14s]
bundle of 11 uncursed quarrels of demon slaying (+3, 2d6+4) [44s]
bundle of 2 uncursed adamantium quarrels of targeting (+7, 2d6+6) [2s]
bundle of 5 uncursed arrows of giant slaying (+3, 1d10+5) [10s]
bundle of 6 blessed quarrels of dragon slaying (+6, 2d6+3) [24s]
bundle of 7 uncursed quarrels of jelly slaying (+3, 2d6+5) [28s]
uncursed arrow of slaying (+0, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed unerring quarrel (+1, 2d6) (p) [2s]
bundle of 4 uncursed mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [8s]
bundle of 9 uncursed quarrels of dragon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [36s]
heap of 5 uncursed rocks (+3, 1d4+2) [25s]
heap of 4 uncursed rocks (+3, 1d4) [20s]
bundle of 7 quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [28s]
<snipped some generic ammo>
Tools (']')
blessed cooking set [100s]
uncursed thieves picks [5s]
uncursed fireproof blanket [10s]
blessed hexagonal key [1s]
uncursed broken rusty triangular key [1s]
heap of 2 uncursed hexagonal keys [2s]
uncursed magical writing set (4) [5s]
heap of 2 uncursed triangular keys [2s]
blanket [10s]
Rings ('=')
heap of 2 uncursed rings of fire resistance [2s]
blessed ring of ice [1s]
uncursed ring of the fish [1s]
cursed silver ring [1s]
Wands ('\')
uncursed wand of magic missiles (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of fire (0 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of webbing (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of ball lightning (5 charges) [4s]
uncursed broken wand of trap creation (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of far slaying (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of poison (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of item detection (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap detection (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster detection (0 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of knocking (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (4 charges) [4s]
cursed wand of acid (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of wonder (5 charges) [3s]
cursed wand of ball lightning (3 charges) [4s]
cursed wand of door creation (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (5 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of knocking (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (0 charges) [3s]
wand of monster creation [3s]
Potions ('!')
blessed potion of healing [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of carrot juice [8s]
uncursed phial of Caladriel [2s]
blessed potion of potential beauty [4s]
blessed potion of raw chaos [2s]
uncursed potion of invisibility [4s]
blessed potion of extra healing [2s]
uncursed potion of beauty [4s]
cursed potion of extra healing [2s]
uncursed potion of boost charisma [2s]
uncursed potion of boost perception [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of poison [8s]
uncursed potion of boost willpower [2s]
uncursed potion of potential willpower [4s]
blessed potion of gain attributes [4s]
uncursed potion of ultra healing [2s]
uncursed potion of insight [2s]
potion of raw chaos [2s]
potion of carrot juice [4s]
potion of cure poison [2s]
potion of insight [2s]
potion of invisibility [4s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of item detection [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of satiation [4s]
cursed scroll of power [2s]
heap of 2 blessed scrolls of power [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of power [6s]
uncursed scroll of vermin control [2s]
uncursed scroll of item destruction [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of identify [4s]
uncursed scroll of light [2s]
Books ('"')
slender tome [100s]
mangled tome [100s]
Food ('%')
heap of 2 uncursed cooked blink dog corpses [228s]
heap of 2 uncursed lumps of beeswax [10s]
heap of 6 uncursed pieces of fresh meat [120s]
blessed cooked dwarven guardian corpse [114s]
blessed cooked dwarf corpse [57s]
blessed cooked wolf corpse [114s]
iron ration [100s]
melon [20s]
cooked Snake from Beyond corpse [228s]
heap of 3 pieces of fresh meat [60s]
loaf of hurthling bread [30s]
Valuables ('$')
6566 gold pieces [65s]
Gems ('*')
uncursed crystal of power [1s]
cursed crystal of darkness [1s]
uncursed crystal of light [1s]
uncursed blue gem [1s]
white gem [1s]

[magpie]

I haven't played a Chaos Knight yet, but from the looks of things I shouldn't think you'll have much of a problem. Your quarrels of dragon and demon slaying (might wanna bless as many of those as possible to make things easier) alone should make the ACW a breeze to take out, and cold blood (from what I understand) should make you more than quick enough to kite him around.

Stay out of his line of sight if possible, though.

[grobblewobble]

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Stuff
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Total weight: 3644 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Potions ('!')
blessed potion of gain attributes [4s]
Food ('%')
cooked Snake from Beyond corpse [228s]


She isn't ready yet. First she must drink the potion and eat the corpse.

[zasvid]

The wimpy shadow of his former self that the ACW is now will not even see it coming, considering the fact that this character is cold-blooded and has big hitter weapon like Foeslammer.

[Stingray1]

She isn't ready yet. First she must drink the potion and eat the corpse.

:) I'm keeping those for a little later, but great idea. Will maybe do it just after a short and brutal visit to the minstrel. You missed the pots of raw chaos. ChAoS=POWER, hoo-ha.

[magpie]

The wimpy shadow of his former self that the ACW is now will not even see it coming, considering the fact that this character is cold-blooded and has big hitter weapon like Foeslammer.

Yeah, but the damage potential of some blessed demon slaying and dragon slaying ammo outstrips even Foeslammer - not to mention, the ACW is still no push-over in melee.

Personally, I'd go with shooting the ACW to death, but your mileage may differ.

[Al-Khwarizmi]

The wimpy shadow of his former self that the ACW is now
What? The ACW has been buffed, not nerfed!

[GordonOverkill]

Guess this guy will eat the ACW for breakfast! He's a ChAoS rOcKeT oF mAsS dEsTrUcTiOn!

[Stingray1]

She was a prostitute.

[_Ln_]

heap of 2 uncursed cooked blink dog corpses [228s]
blessed cooked dwarven guardian corpse

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Planning to get flesh of order corruption? :D

[Stingray1]

heap of 2 uncursed cooked blink dog corpses [228s]
blessed cooked dwarven guardian corpse

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Planning to get flesh of order corruption? :D

Yeah, I'm keeping them in case it comes and then I will have the option to use some more of the power that ChAoS provides.

[JellySlayer]

ACW should be a pushover. Your character is quite high level for the ToEF (I typically visit around level 18-20, and have done it as low as 14-16 with non-trolls... getting above 20 requires far too much grinding for my taste). You have stilts and frozen blood corruptions, so you're freakishly fast in the ToEF as well...

[Stingray1]

Thanks a lot guys for your honest opinions, there you go Al-Khwarizmi. There is more than enough for a pure CK to do to gain enough experience for the Tower. Without the need to scum or grind.
Before the ID, assassin's guild, Terinyo, DT and water temple; she was already at lvl 20, had the robes, ring of ice, 1st stack of demon-slayers, intrinsic resistant to fire and had rings and gauntlets of -fire. The bracers, vampiric sword and cold blood was obtained in the ID though. 7lb in guild.

I will anyway bring an updated report of her status after the Tomb, Library and Maze.

[zasvid]

What? The ACW has been buffed, not nerfed!

I could've swore that I've read somewhere that ACW has been buffed with various resistances, then nerfed a little in pure stats because it was too much. Can't find it anywhere now. I've met it three times this month and each time it was a pushover when assaulted with pure firepower (and resistant to disabling), which seemed to give credence to aformentioned changes. Now I'm not sure whether my brain made it all up (maybe I've considered nerfing blind rage to be a significant nerf to ACW?).

[Stingray1]

It is of course possible that the ACW has been nerfed again in the latest prerelease. We don't always know what Team Adom does behind the scenes.

Anyway, the TotHK and library netted her 2 levels, 2 scrolls of mapping, 1 scroll of chaos removal, 1 weird tome and a bunch of some other tomes she probably won't ever read and unholy aura. Her wonderful bracers broke during the fall, should have stashed that along with the slaying ammo. I don't really feel like the maze, maybe I'll feel better about it tomorrow. Still haven't found a pot of cure corruption, so maybe she'll be forced to do it anyway.

P.S. I'm trying to remember, but aren't sure: Did blessed potions of gain an attribute increase one's attribute by +2 and the potential by +2 above the new value in 1.1.1?

I seem to vaguely remember something along those lines, so don't want to report something that is not a "bug".

[Stingray1]

Not creating a thread especially for this, so I'll jus ask your guys' opinion here, before I submit a bug report?:

Spoiler warning: Contains an image and features of the minotaur maze.

Should the PC not see the tiles to the south of her? She is standing inside the illusionary wall.

2083

Also, I thought intrinsic fire resistance and 2 other sources is the same as immunity.

[JellySlayer]

I think there was a change to how vision worked with illusionary walls. I guess this is the result?

Yes, intrinsic + 2 source of fire resistance is immunity at least as far as ToEF is concerned.


Did blessed potions of gain an attribute increase one's attribute by +2 and the potential by +2 above the new value in 1.1.1?

Yes, this behaviour has been present since at least 1.1.1.

[Stingray1]

Yes, one could see through illusionary walls while not inside them, which meant there was no point to them. I cannot decide whether it makes sense or not. It certainly did not feel right.
I'll submit a report anyway and TB can decide.

Ah, ok, only for ToEF background heat.

Yeah, I recall that behaviour. Potentials has been so weird lately, my brain is all jelly.

[Stingray1]

Well, anyway her life as ChAoS kNiGhT ended in the palace of Andor Drakon. Paralyzes by WMoPC and not wearing any -para is deathwish in there. Now she will be with her creator for Millenia to come as a cute little purple j. The biggest challenge with pure CK is Corruption Removal. Either you gotta move fast through corrupting areas or you need to find a lot of removal somehow. I could muster 6 scrolls and 3 potions, that doesn't feel like enough for the palace. Especially with all the confusion and summons getting in the way all the time and needing to hit Andor a million times.

BTW, I was one hitting Greater Blue Wyrms in the Blue Dragon Caves with True Aim, I also killed the Ancient Blue Wyrm, Ancient Karmic Wyrm and Blup's Mom with True Aim.

P.S. Once again, I learned a bunch of invaluable things during this run. So, I'm pretty certain my next run will be a complete success. Also, I honestly don't think that background corruption in his palace should increase every 90 days.

[GordonOverkill]

Sad to hear that... though maybe good for the people of Ancardia ;-) However, I'm sure that another ChAoS kNiGhT is already waiting and ready to claim godhood!

[Stingray1]

Yes, this girl was maybe not the best replacement for Andor. A creature of grace is possibly more fitting to beat him up. ;)

[_Ln_]

The biggest challenge with pure CK is Corruption Removal. Either you gotta move fast through corrupting areas or you need to find a lot of removal somehow. I could muster 6 scrolls and 3 potions, that doesn't feel like enough for the palace. Especially with all the confusion and summons getting in the way all the time and needing to hit Andor a million times.

If I read the thread right, you were using pots of chaos before and ate some guardian corpses? Seems like you got what you deserve :D

Diving ID without stair-hopping is pure madness. Doing <> routine till you find a good level pattern reduces the number of turns by a factor of 2 or 3 at least.

BTW, it's Andor who paralyzes, not WMoPCs.
The right kit for Chaos Plane reads as follows: 1 blessed PoCC in missile slot, 1+ source of confusion resist, 1 source of death ray resist, 1 source of paralyzation resist, 1 source of light.

Why not 9 scrolls? (3 from bugs, 5 from MM, 1 from HMV)

[Stingray1]

If I read the thread right, you were using pots of chaos before and ate some guardian corpses? Seems like you got what you deserve :D

Diving ID without stair-hopping is pure madness. Doing <> routine till you find a good level pattern reduces the number of turns by a factor of 2 or 3 at least.

BTW, it's Andor who paralyzes, not WMoPCs.
The right kit for Chaos Plane reads as follows: 1 blessed PoCC in missile slot, 1+ source of confusion resist, 1 source of death ray resist, 1 source of paralyzation resist, 1 source of light.

Why not 9 scrolls? (3 from bugs, 5 from MM, 1 from HMV)

I was just kidding about the corpses and pots, never drank/ate them.

Role-playing an ADOM character would not go up and down stairs, although it is debatable.

It is the WMoPCs that paralyze. I might be mistaken, I was just pressing the enter key at that stage and getting pretty annoyed with teleportitis. Although it is very strange what you are saying, because IIRC Andy wasn't even standing next to me when I first got paralyzes.

I had 3 sources of confusion resistance and still got confused all the time, even the Archmage confused me all the time with 3 sources.

I had only one death in prerelease 19, so bugs were out. Maybe I'll play 3 wizards and 2 elementalists in the Westside story challenge game in pre20 to get 5 quick deaths. :P MM didn't want to give me scrolls, he just shoved the tome aside. I wished for 3, found one in library and wrote another. In restrospect, I think wishing for Concentration is probably better, that way you can teleport more while carrying the trinity. I had Mana Battery, so I needed to get that removed, is why I wished for scrolls at that stage of the game and I wanted emergency teleportation with the wand during the ID dive.

As I said, I learned a lot and will do some things in a different order in the next run to reduce corruption more.

P.S. At the stage when I had done everything, but killed all the 'big' Wyrms and dragons in the game I was only at xl 30, so the reduced corruption from the class power hadn't even been present for most part of the game. CKs level extremely slow, because of their stat boosting class powers and bonuses from corruptions.

[JellySlayer]

If WMoPCs paralyze, this is a new and fairly significant change. In 1.1.1, they only slow you.

When you were fighting Andor, you did remember to remove the Chaos Trinity, I hope? The multiple cursedooms you get from those items makes confusion resistance almost impossible against powerful casters. Ankh + crowning + 2x confusion resist + 30 or more Wi should be enough for minimal confusion problems--no more than the odd turn now and then.

[Stingray1]

Yes, this was the 8th time I fought Andor so I know about the trinity being essenced. During my OCG attempts during pre 1, I quickly learned how corrupting those artifacts are.

Was wearing amulet of light(which was the mistake, should have had torch in tool slot, but I'm an idiot), helm of mental stability, ring of the clear mind and wielded AotME. Wi was somewhere near 20. e - which I think maybe indicates that one has to farm morgia.

Edit - I must add, I was pretty annoyed during the fight with the confusion and getting new corruptions so often I wasn't really reading much text or paying perhaps enough attention as I have already basically given up. So, I might be mistaken about the paralysis from the WMoPC. What I do remember is hitting one between him and me and the next thing, I'm paralyzed and probably slowed, so there was heaps of text passing by while hitting enter.

P.P.S. Anyway, the only point of this challenge was to prove that there is enough sources of experience for a pure role-played CK to be ready for the ToEF when the time is ripe without the need for grinding or scummy practices. I believe that has been done. In my next attempt, I will farm a little bit of morgia, just enough to get Wi and To to 25 and I will also stairhop the ID for short stair levels. As I see it now, the character is intelligent enough to realize that the levels change when he goes up and down. The purpose thus now is for getting this ending personally. A bit selfish I know, but I would like to have that on my résumé.

[_Ln_]

Bumping it up while completely offtopic.

Just had a fun run with a CK who found eternium two-hander of slaughtering in the SMC (barely clvl 2) and Perion's armor as a random drop from a vault a couple levels lower.

The game ended about 16k later when I smashed things in Darkforge with my sword (with 22PV and about 3DV on berserk which is a bit scary) to find only Long Sting and nothing else of notive. I decided to go get crowned, sold Long Sting to Leggot for money, attacked him to get it back, pwned him till he panicked and then while I blundered in keeping the distance while shooting him he hit me for 160 hp (two crits in a row).

CKs are quite fun, what can I say.

On a related note, you can still get Swimming from Blup despite the fact that he won't talk to you normally.

[Stingray1]

I believe swimming from Blup to be an oversight on the part of the Creator, I'll try to remember to ask him sometime.