Vote for ADOM as Roguelike of the Year 2013 part II

[adom-admin]

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[GordonOverkill]

Don't like this kind of internet anarchy... people with technical skills but without any sense for sportsmanship using their skills to spoil the fun for all the others, just because they can... in my eyes that's not too different from tough guys beating up weaker guys at the weekends, just because they can. Probably gives them a simmilar kind of satisfaction.

[Ravenmore]

And the winner is Noxico! Ah well.

Edit:
At least it got handled properly, without too much of a flame war and fuss :) And Happy New Year to the guys already in 2014 ;)

[Stingray1]

You misunderstand. Its not because they can, its because they cannot...win fairly. Cheating scum is pathetic and I'm not drunk this time. This time around they did not only fuck it up for themselves, they did for everyone and that is going too far.

[GordonOverkill]

Don't think so. You cannot compare these guys at all with people who cheat in a single player game. Single player games in the end have one single aim: To entertain the single player who is playing the game. If somebody enjoys playing a cheated game, it's perfectly fine. For example a while ago I was playing Skyrim when my wife was watching. She really liked the characters, the landscape and the plot and she wanted to play the game herself. But she didn't enjoy at all being in danger of dying, having to do the same things again and again and so on... so she looked up a god-mode-cheat in the internet and from there on had lots of fun with the game. I don't mind this at all because nobody had any disadvantage from it.
Cheating in a multi player game or in a competition like this is of a totally different quality. The aim of this poll is not only pure entertainment of the single voters, but also insight into certain proportions, as well as a certain challange... and infact many voters gain their entertainment from the challange or from their interest in the knowledge-aspect. These voters' entertainment is wittingly and willingly spoiled by the cheaters and I don't think they do it just because they are in panic that their fave might lose... I suppose they feel extremly cool because of their own superior influence compared to the other voters, who themselves ofcourse don't enjoy the fact that their own single vote becomes more and more meaningless.

[Stingray1]

As an aside, I don't believe the aim that the creators of a single player game had in mind was for its players to cheat their way through it. Their aim most likely was to create a challenging and entertaining game and I think they created the game in mind to try and make it difficult to finish. Not to get people to download cheatcodes, but to give them the joy of achievement. If you are so low that you are willing to rig an informative poll for roguelike games, then you will also cheat in other things. In my view.

[GordonOverkill]

I am quite sure that the main intention of the creators of single player games is (next to commercial interests) to give their players a good time. One player enjoys a big challange, another one enjoys a little challange, another one doesn't like the challange at all but rather enjoys the atmosphere, the story or whatever. If the player has a good time with his way of playing, I don't think that there is any good reason why he should not play that way... like I said, there is nobody else who has any disadvantage from it.

[nathrakh]

The blog has a few good posts but the polls are such a joke that I can't even begin to comprehend why they gather so much focus each and every year. I'm pretty sure that some people will hack the poll to hell next year - if it still uses the same crappy voting system.

Not going to congratulate the winner.

[anon123]

The people who have done this should know that a rigged win means nothing, and can even hurt the reputation of the game they voted for.

[Al-Khwarizmi]

The blog has a few good posts but the polls are such a joke that I can't even begin to comprehend why they gather so much focus each and every year.
Because it's the only such poll. The roguelike community is (unexpectedly) getting bigger every year, and every community that enjoys a given kind of works or products needs prizes, competitions, ratings, rankings, etc.

It would be nice if someone set up a more serious poll next year.

[gut]

I join nath in not congratulating the winner of this poll.
I join Kwarizmi in hoping for a more properly organized poll next year.

I'm not sure I'd say it is unexpected for the roguelike community to be growing. We are enjoying a lot of free labor from a lot of talented people at the moment.