Lvl 14 ME Thief WWYD

[Ravenshire]

Ok so im in a bit of a bind i had a white unicorn spawn in the DH and was hoping to be able to sac it in DT(only 3 floors above) so i kited it back up and it decided before i could get it to the alter that it wanted to destroy DT including thundarr and runn and most of the other npcs. i was able to lure the unicorn off the lvl and get away from it but i have a DH that has a rather nasty threat room and only 8 PV so the forest is very dangerous. i was able to pick up a RoDS clearing a vault on D13 so i have that and i decided to save and figure out where to go from here. i wasnt able to complete any of thundarr quests so i dont have /oF to make pyramid a joke atm but i did get my heir gift and have been using that since the start of the game.

any suggestions ill post the log following

[Ravenshire]

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Suratobi St:19 Le:22 Wi:11 Dx:24 To:15 Ch:11 Ap:28 Ma:28 Pe:21 N=
DV/PV: 32/8 H: 57(57) P: 90(92) Exp: 14/128636 D: 13 Sp: 101
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Character Information
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Suratobi St:19 Le:22 Wi:11 Dx:24 To:15 Ch:11 Ap:28 Ma:28 Pe:21
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DV/PV: 32/8 H: 57(57) P: 90(92) Exp: 14/128636 M: 29013



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Background Information
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Name: Suratobi Race: male Mist Elf Class: Thief
Eye color: white Hair color: silver Complexion: white
Height: 7'1" Weight: 83 pounds
Age: 8148 (grown-up, 29 years of unnatural aging added in)
Star sign: Candle Birthday: 25/Candle (day 295 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
You remember rising from the Mists... so long ago. Your brethren
welcomed you into your physical existence and cared for you until you
managed to cope on your own. Thus decades passed.
As a young child you were taught by the elders of your race. They
showed to you the whole breadth of creation and opened your mind to
encompass whatever your life goal would become. Thus centuries passed.
You spent your youth honing your skills and preparing for the
ultimate quest that would change you forever: the trip to the mists of
Destiny. Thus millennia passed and empires rose and fell.
As a young adult your community prepared you for the final step
towards adolescence: your Destiny Quest in the Mists of Time. In the full
knowledge that this quest would change you forever you finally entered the
Mists that birthed you and emerged changed... as decreed by the Dreamers
from Beyond.
You decided to become a Thief.


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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Daggers & knives 9 +9 +5 +2 excellent 852

Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
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Bows 6 +12 +9 +2 skilled 113

Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 6 +12 skilled 250


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +36 bonus to hit, 1d4+16 damage


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 4, base range: 14, +45 bonus to hit, 1d6+26 damage






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Skills
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Backstabbing .........100 (superb) [+2d4]
Detect traps .........100 (superb) [+2d4]
Disarm traps .........100 (superb) [+2d4]
Dodge ................ 65 (good) [+2d4]
Literacy ............. 69 (good) [+1]
Pick locks ...........100 (superb) [+2d4]
Pick pockets ......... 70 (good) [+3d4]
Stealth ..............100 (superb) [+2d4]




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Inventory
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Total weight: 1752 stones Carrying capacity: 2100 stones

Head : -
Neck : blessed necklace of rapid healing [2s]
Body : uncursed leather armor [+0, +5] [150s]
Girdle : uncursed girdle of strength [+0, +0] {St+1} [15s]
Cloak : uncursed light cloak (+1, +1) [+2, +0] [20s]
Right Hand : blessed adamantium dagger of penetration (+0, 1d4+5) [7s]
Left Hand : uncursed large adamantium shield (-1) [+9, +3] [86s]
Right Ring : uncursed ring of fire resistance [1s]
Left Ring : uncursed ring of cold resistance [1s]
Bracers : uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4} [10s]
Gauntlets : uncursed gloves of dexterity [+0, +0] {Dx+2} [6s]
Boots : blessed light boots [+0, +0] [20s]
Missile Weapon: uncursed short bow of accuracy (+6, +0) [20s]
Missiles : bundle of 4 uncursed adamantium arrows (+1, 1d6+6) [4s]
Tool : -


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Stuff
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Total weight: 1410 stones Carrying capacity: 2100 stones

Helmets ('[')
uncursed helm of water breathing [+0, +1] [30s]
Shields ('[')
uncursed medium shield [+5, +0] [100s]
blessed small eternium shield [+7, +1] [24s]
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed gloves of carrying [+0, +0] [6s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
uncursed black torc [+4, +2] (+10 spd) [3s]
uncursed amulet of defense +2 [3s]
blessed necklace of rapid healing [2s]
blessed amulet of defense +2 [3s]
Bracers (',')
uncursed bracers of defense [+2, +0] [10s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
uncursed mithril long sword (+1, 1d8+3) [32s]
Missile weapons ('}')
blessed short bow (+1, +2) [20s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels of construct slaying (+6, 2d6+3) [20s]
uncursed adamantium arrow of slaying (+1, 1d6+7) [1s]
Tools (']')
uncursed thieves picks [5s]
uncursed waterproof blanket [10s]
heap of 2 uncursed bandages [4s]
heap of 39 uncursed sis [390s]
blessed tiny key [1s]
uncursed holy symbol [5s]
heap of 7 cursed sis [70s]
uncursed fletchery set (8) [70s]
heap of 8 blessed sis [80s]
cursed tiny key [1s]
Rings ('=')
uncursed ring of acid resistance [1s]
blessed ring of stun resistance [1s]
uncursed ring of ice [1s]
uncursed ring of damage [1s]
uncursed ring of djinni summoning [1s]
Wands ('\')
cursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of light (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of knocking (7 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of earthquakes (1 charge) [3s]
cursed wand of light (1 charge) [4s]
cursed wand of far slaying (4 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of knocking (9 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (3 charges) [3s]
Potions ('!')
heap of 2 uncursed potions of healing [8s]
uncursed potion of potential dexterity [4s]
cursed potion of ultra healing [2s]
cursed potion of charisma [4s]
heap of 6 potions of holy water [24s]
blessed potion of booze [4s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of cure poison [8s]
uncursed potion of extra healing [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of invisibility [8s]
cursed potion of booze [4s]
uncursed potion of potential learning [4s]
blessed potion of invisibility [4s]
Scrolls ('?')
uncursed scroll of great identify [2s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [8s]
uncursed scroll of item destruction [2s]
cursed scroll of gold detection [2s]
uncursed scroll of vermin control [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of light [4s]
uncursed scroll of power [2s]
uncursed scroll of balance [2s]
uncursed scroll of monster detection [2s]
cursed scroll of identify [2s]
uncursed scroll of darkness [2s]
uncursed scroll of identify [2s]
uncursed scroll of item detection [2s]
Food ('%')
blessed bone [4s]
heap of 2 cursed morgia roots [4s]
heap of 2 cursed spenseweeds [4s]
heap of 2 cursed devil's roses [4s]
heap of 3 cursed curaria mancox herbs [6s]
cursed alraunia antidote [2s]
cursed demon daisy [2s]
heap of 5 cursed moss patches of mareilon [10s]
heap of 2 cursed pepper petals [4s]
heap of 30 uncursed cooked lizards [90s]
Valuables ('$')
3514 gold pieces [35s]


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Killed Monsters
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1244 monsters perished under his attacks.

The following monsters were vanquished:
1 black druid

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Achievements
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He survived for 0 years, 23 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds (29013
turns).
Suratobi visited 42 places.
His strength score was modified by +5 during his career.
His learning score was modified by +3 during his career.
His willpower score was modified by +1 during his career.
His dexterity score was modified by +1 during his career.
His toughness score was modified by +3 during his career.
His charisma score was modified by +2 during his career.
His appearance score was modified by +1 during his career.
His mana score was modified by +2 during his career.
His perception score was modified by +1 during his career.
He was unnaturally aged by 29 years.

[LexyBoy]

Ah, such noble beasts. Evidently disapproved of the Dwarves' degenerate ways with their inns and love of gold.

If it were me, I would probably go for the scummy approach because I always tend to be overprepared. Given the R/C combo you're playing, I guess you're not planning a speedrun :). I would go to the graveyard upper level - usually I find some nice stuff there, especially with pickpocketing. Get the \oTeleport. Pickpocketing & killing everything in the big room should get you some nice loot too (if you're playing one of the newer prereleases it might be a bit too tough though with the crazy monster generation).

After this you should have resources to tackle the pyramid, and the forest is doable with invisibility and a decent number of charges of teleportation. Also I usually crown as early as possible - maybe a precrown would be better as thief crowning gifts look a bit shite.

Not sure about a wish - maybe Find Weakness, or =oTeleControl?

[JellySlayer]

If you can stock up on a few more spenseweed or pepper petals, you're probably fine to do the Pyramid as long as you don't get a really bad spawn. The fireball wand isn't necessary. The low PV is a concern, but because you're a ME, your effective PV is higher (granted your HP is lower...)

You could wish for RDSM. Or maybe blue/blackDSM even since you don't have those resistances. It would probably nearly double your PV and give you the immunity. Is it possible to get around the unicorn on your way back up? Or do you actually have to kill it? It's possible that your wand of web might work on it, I suppose.

[Joe]

If think if you have a decent shield you should be able to do the Pyramid with the penetrating dagger. The armor + ankh will surely make your prospects of survival better ;)

[Ravenshire]

ok well heres an update

i managed to clear out both the pyramid and the giffyard and was able to grind up the piety for a crowning(precrown wasnt an option took druid quest) and i got true aim as my crowning gift as well as acid immune(sad no fire RDSM anyone) still have my wish available and im torn atm between either the AoLS for kelly or RDSM for the tower but i still have alot of ground to cover before the tower and for right now im heading back to the forest i think to find kelly.

[JellySlayer]

Khelly isn't as valuable as it once was, IMHO. In pre23, the corruption rate is low enough that SoCR aren't nearly as important as they used to do. As a ME, you might get some use out of the teleport book, though.

If your PV is up a bit, an additional option is rings/bracers of regeneration. Very, very handy early in the game.

[Ravenshire]

Ok ill keep that in mind still play on p20 as im not a tester right now(hoping to change this soon) i did go ahead and get past him and headed further down and managed to pick up a second RoDS so now i have 2 sitting unused in my bags and RDSM is looking very tempting so are =of regen. funny thing is that at this point the only point in using the elemental gauntlets is to protect my rings when i go into the ToEF as ill most likely have RDSM at the point from 1 of my wishes and i found i lightning lizard corpse in the banshee lvl and was crowned with =acid. also managed to get a blink corpse so i have controlled tele sadly after kelly was dead.

as of right now im lvl 17 and just finished the banshee lvl and need to dive into the water temple on my way back up after i locate the wall of flame. want to be as high a level as possible so as to be able to only have to pass that unicorn 2 more times(once on the way out and once on the way back down) and then ill hopefully just have to finish clearing and will have a win. only thing that scares me right now is ToEF(still a place i take very carefully). but things are looking up for my ME right now.