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Dazed
09-06-2014, 12:43 PM
Hello all! Got a promising spellcaster on the go and am looking for a bit of advice.

Background info...

I have a level 34 female mist elven elementalist who hasn't even gotten to the point of descending the CoC to save/point and laugh at Khelly or go for Chaos Orbs (don't even have the Water Orb, let alone entered the ToEF yet) because I was initially exploring areas on the surface (Darkforge, Dwarven Graveyard, RotHK, Puppy Cave, Keethrax all done). She was precrowned with Perion's mithril plate armour and crowned neutral with the Ring of Immunity way back when. On exploring the Ice Queen's Domain she came across a fire dragon greater vault and picked up Far Slayer (woo!) and True Aim (double woo!) as well as killing all the dragons and the wyrm (woo for naturally gaining Frost Bolt and letting me train it up, hee!). This made her go up a ton of levels. She went down the Rift, nabbed a bunch of books in the Library but accidentally shot the Ghost Librarian with True Aim so the weird tome was out of the question (whoops!). Having done some careful training of stats with Garth and herbs, and tactical potential stat potion drinking, her stats currently look like this:

St: 33, Le: 25, Wi: 29, Dx: 29, To: 37, Ch: 14, Ap: 33, Ma: 38, Pe: 22

Early on in the game she found two books of Acid Ball, so she's got enough castings of that to last. She's level 10 in polearms and the Rune Covered Trident is an option in a couple of levels time.

Questions...

1. I'd like to try the Bug Temple, because I went over level 30 in the fire dragon greater vault so couldn't try the Minotaur Maze. I've never done the Bug Temple before. I probably wouldn't have done it if I had managed to finish the Library properly. Does my elementalist have a chance there, and if so, what should I be careful about?

2. Can she do the ToEF without issues? Seems silly to ask at level 34, but most of my characters usually try the ToEF at level 18-20 or so. At that level, my elementalist was weedy and didn't even have 100 HP yet. Now she has 266 HP, a killer Frost Bolt, mediocre Ice Ball and Invisibility and Teleportation on casting demand.

3. Should I drop down to, say, the Casino, THEN try the Bug Temple? Note that I haven't found an AoLS yet and I haven't descended down to meet Khelly, so part of me wonders if there's a possibility of finding an AoLS at the Bug Temple so I can grab some scrolls of corruption removal from Khelly because I messed up with the Ghost Librarian.

Your thoughts would be much appreciated :)

JellySlayer
09-06-2014, 03:02 PM
The safest option would be to do water temple to increase the range on your ball spells. Very handy for Bug Temple. Realistically, ToEF will be trivial at your level. Don't worry about AoLS.

Heikki
09-06-2014, 03:37 PM
The safest option would be to do water temple to increase the range on your ball spells. Very handy for Bug Temple. Realistically, ToEF will be trivial at your level. Don't worry about AoLS.

Boost to willpower is very handy against ACW as well, although absolutely not necessary with that willpower. This just gives +1 to water temple. And if you don't have an AoLS when facing Khelly, then Khelly dies. Not that big deal.

Dazed
09-06-2014, 05:01 PM
Boost to willpower is very handy against ACW as well, although absolutely not necessary with that willpower. This just gives +1 to water temple. And if you don't have an AoLS when facing Khelly, then Khelly dies. Not that big deal.

Thanks, I've taken both your advice to go to the Water Temple. Interestingly, a river was generated on that level, so I didn't have to dig to get into the Temple, I just swam through the river! I didn't know rivers could be generated here.

Dazed
09-07-2014, 08:45 AM
Sadly my Elementalist fell to a moloch, I got overconfident! :( Bug Temple was super easy to do though.

I've been wondering about mist elves, though. I've often found that I roll them with good Learning, but mediocre (sub-15) Willpower with similar potential and of course terrible Strength and Toughness. With how herbs and potentials work now, what sort of primarily spellcasting classes work well for them? I'm trying to play classes I haven't completed yet, so Wizard and Priest are out, leaving Elementalist, Druid and Necromancer. I think my Elementalist was a bit of a fluke because she was Tree-born, rolled good potentials at the start on top of the +5 willpower and +2 toughness and picked up a load of potions of potential toughness along the way, as well as what seemed like more books than normal (2 Acid Ball books!).

Cactus
09-07-2014, 03:20 PM
So you want a mist-elven non-wizard non-priest spellcaster? I'd go for a necromancer with the Heir gift. It might not be worth three talents but definitely has style.
Generally, if you're worried about potentials, consider potions of exchange especially for mist elves.

Dazed
09-09-2014, 08:51 AM
I'll give the potions of exchange trick a try, and the Necromancer. Is there any particular star sign that would be good for mist elves in general? I eschewed Salamander for Tree with my Elementalist because I felt the Willpower, Toughness and PV boosts were better than the perks for fire spells.