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Eol
09-13-2014, 04:03 AM
In my adventures through the newly added dungeons I came across level with surge of power. "Yay, some good stuff is waiting for me!" I thought, but RNG gives with one hand and takes with the other. Look who is the guardian:

This is Mak-Wer, the quickling lord. He is hostile. He seems to be afraid. He
appears to be very experienced.

Sooo, Mak-Wer snatched what i presume to be artifact(leather armor, looks like Nature's Companion) before I was able to make a step, and now I don't know what to do with this fellow. He is able to regen any damage I deliver in one turn( even crits), he punches through my armor and he is really a Filk on steroids.

My character is melee-focused, but I have trained bows slightly. Here is my character .slg to give you idea what stats and resources
Urist has



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Character Information
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Urist St:29 Le:13 Wi:21 Dx:19 To:28 Ch:14 Ap:12 Ma:15 Pe:19 NC
DV/PV: 43/25 H: 112(201) P: 50(50) Exp: 15/160776 M: 33519



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Background Information
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Name: Urist Race: male Gnome Class: Monk
Eye color: brown Hair color: brown Complexion: tanned
Height: 3'4" Weight: 123 pounds
Age: 113 (grown-up)
Star sign: Raven Birthday: 20/Raven (day 20 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
Your parents belong to the middle class. They are average people
living in average quarters. Your father is a craftsman of mediocre talent.
As a child your parents cared a lot for you. Despite all
circumstances you enjoyed a happy and fine childhood.
During your youth you had a lot of fun playing with other kids of
your age. You always were a natural leader and the center of interest.
Your path was always clearly lying before you. You knew about your
destiny since your earliest years and fortunately your grandfather
supported your wishes. You managed to find a competent trainer and began
your studies.
You decided to become a Monk.


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Inventory
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Total weight: 1939 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Head : mithril cap [+0, +2] [40s]
Neck : uncursed amulet of light [3s]
Body : uncursed ring mail (-1, -1) [-1, +5] [300s]
Girdle : girdle of giant strength [+0, +0] {St+12} [30s]
Cloak : uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s]
Right Hand : -
Left Hand : medium crystal shield (-1) [+9, +4] [160s]
Right Ring : blessed ring of damage [1s]
Left Ring : ring of teleport control [1s]
Bracers : blessed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4} [10s]
Gauntlets : uncursed gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +1] [10s]
Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
Missile Weapon: uncursed sling (+0, +1) [3s]
Missiles : -
Tool : -


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Stuff
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Total weight: 1331 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Helmets ('[')
uncursed diadem of beauty [+0, +0] {Ap+7} [35s]
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
gauntlets [10s]
gauntlets [10s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed amulet of greed [3s]
uncursed black torc [+4, +2] (+10 spd) [3s]
amber amulet [3s]
bleak amulet [3s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
crystal dagger (+0, 2d3+4) [25s]
orcish spear (-2, 1d8+2) [75s]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed long bow of accuracy (+8, +2) [30s]
Missiles ('/')
uncursed arrow (+3, 1d6) [2s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows of jelly slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [4s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+2) [4s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+2, 1d6) [4s]
uncursed winged arrow (+0, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed barbed arrow of targeting (+6, 1d6+6) [2s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [4s]
uncursed arrow (+0, 1d6+1) [2s]
uncursed arrow (+1, 1d6+1) [2s]
bundle of 12 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [24s]
heap of 2 uncursed rocks (+1, 1d4) [10s]
uncursed arrow (+1, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed arrow of targeting (+7, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed arrow (-3, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed rock (+0, 1d4+3) [5s]
arrow [2s]
arrow [2s]
arrow [2s]
bundle of 18 arrows [36s]
arrow [2s]
bundle of 5 quarrels [20s]
Tools (']')
uncursed torch [10s]
blessed torch [10s]
blessed torch (4186 turns of fuel remaining) [10s]
uncursed box with flint and steel (18) [5s]
uncursed tinderbox (15) [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed waterproof blankets [20s]
uncursed fletchery set (6) [70s]
uncursed round key [1s]
blessed waterproof blanket [10s]
climbing set [180s]
Rings ('=')
uncursed ring of the fish [1s]
uncursed ring of luck [1s]
uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s]
ring of defense +1 [1s]
Wands ('\')
cursed wand of wonder (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (8 charges) [3s]
pine wand [3s]
wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
curved wand [4s]
brittle wand [3s]
Potions ('!')
cursed potion of invisibility [4s]
uncursed potion of wonder [2s]
uncursed potion of troll blood [2s]
uncursed potion of exchange [4s]
uncursed potion of boost dexterity [2s]
heap of 4 potions of holy water [16s]
cursed potion of ultra healing [2s]
uncursed potion of healing [4s]
uncursed potion of potential strength [4s]
blessed thick potion [4s]
heap of 2 potions of wonder [4s]
viscous potion [4s]
cyan potion [4s]
heap of 2 orange potions [8s]
heap of 6 potions of water [24s]
potion of water [4s]
potion of healing [4s]
light magenta potion [4s]
bright potion [2s]
Scrolls ('?')
uncursed scroll of light [2s]
uncursed scroll of danger [2s]
uncursed scroll of power [2s]
uncursed papyrus scroll [2s]
cursed scroll of identify [2s]
blessed scroll of identify [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [4s]
scroll of magic mapping [2s]
blank scroll [2s]
scroll of identify [2s]
scroll of light [2s]
heap of 2 scrolls of gold detection [4s]
scroll of great identify [2s]
Books ('"')
huge tome [100s]
Food ('%')
heap of 10 cursed spenseweeds [20s]
heap of 9 cursed moss patches of mareilon [18s]
heap of 8 cursed burb roots [16s]
heap of 7 cursed pepper petals [14s]
heap of 3 cursed alraunia antidotes [6s]
heap of 2 cursed curaria mancox herbs [4s]
heap of 2 cursed stomacemptia herbs [4s]
uncursed herb seed [2s]
heap of 2 blessed spenseweeds [4s]
uncursed spenseweed [2s]
heap of 3 cursed morgia roots [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed stomacemptia herbs [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed pepper petals [4s]
uncursed burb root [2s]
heap of 6 morgia roots [12s]
stomacemptia herb [2s]
heap of 2 stomafillia herbs [4s]
burb root [2s]
pepper petal [2s]
stomacemptia herb [2s]
heap of 3 stomafillia herbs [6s]
heap of 4 morgia roots [8s]
heap of 17 moss patches of mareilon [34s]
heap of 3 moss patches of mareilon [6s]
heap of 4 morgia roots [8s]
heap of 5 spenseweeds [10s]
heap of 7 spenseweeds [14s]
pepper petal [2s]
heap of 2 burb roots [4s]
heap of 3 spenseweeds [6s]
heap of 2 devil's roses [4s]
devil's rose [2s]
heap of 4 demon daisies [8s]
heap of 4 alraunia antidotes [8s]
heap of 2 alraunia antidotes [4s]
heap of 2 curaria mancox herbs [4s]
iron ration [100s]
Valuables ('$')
5107 gold pieces [51s]


Urist 've been disarmed by some fencers (there was a ratling vault on level with surge of power), but he 'll recieve RCT soon, so it's not a problem.
So far my best bet is to use "Runaway!!" tactics and return when I'll have something like 40-50 dmg, and some better to-hit stats,but I'm not sure what dmg output will be enough.

gut
09-13-2014, 04:34 AM
step 1. read the blessed id scroll
step 2. repost your info
step 3. most likely is to use magic as much as possible. You have some wonder potions, so drink them. Maybe they still confuse monsters when thrown?
Also try to use wands, maybe you have some booze, or access to booze via beggars?

shockeroo
09-13-2014, 07:51 AM
A wand of fireballs should sort this out.

Eol
09-13-2014, 10:24 AM
Here is updated log:


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Character Information
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Urist St:29 Le:13 Wi:21 Dx:19 To:28 Ch:14 Ap:12 Ma:15 Pe:19 NC
DV/PV: 51/25 H: 115(201) P: 50(50) Exp: 15/161624 M: 33564



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Background Information
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Name: Urist Race: male Gnome Class: Monk
Eye color: brown Hair color: brown Complexion: tanned
Height: 3'4" Weight: 123 pounds
Age: 113 (grown-up)
Star sign: Raven Birthday: 20/Raven (day 20 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
Your parents belong to the middle class. They are average people
living in average quarters. Your father is a craftsman of mediocre talent.
As a child your parents cared a lot for you. Despite all
circumstances you enjoyed a happy and fine childhood.
During your youth you had a lot of fun playing with other kids of
your age. You always were a natural leader and the center of interest.
Your path was always clearly lying before you. You knew about your
destiny since your earliest years and fortunately your grandfather
supported your wishes. You managed to find a competent trainer and began
your studies.
You decided to become a Monk.


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Inventory
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Total weight: 2012 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Head : uncursed mithril cap [+0, +2] [40s]
Neck : uncursed amulet of light [3s]
Body : uncursed ring mail (-1, -1) [-1, +5] [300s]
Girdle : uncursed girdle of giant strength [+0, +0] {St+12} [30s]
Cloak : uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s]
Right Hand : orcish spear (+1, 1d8+4) [75s]
Left Hand : blessed medium crystal shield (-1) [+9, +4] [160s]
Right Ring : blessed ring of damage [1s]
Left Ring : blessed ring of teleport control [1s]
Bracers : blessed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4} [10s]
Gauntlets : uncursed gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +1] [10s]
Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
Missile Weapon: uncursed sling (+0, +1) [3s]
Missiles : -
Tool : -


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Stuff
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Total weight: 1329 stones Carrying capacity: 4575 stones

Helmets ('[')
uncursed diadem of beauty [+0, +0] {Ap+7} [35s]
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
uncursed gauntlets (-1, +0) [+1, +1] [10s]
cursed gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +1] [10s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed amulet of greed [3s]
uncursed black torc [+4, +2] (+10 spd) [3s]
uncursed amulet of perseverance {Wi+5} [3s]
uncursed pendant of mana {Ma+2} [3s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
uncursed crystal dagger (+0, 2d3+4) [25s]
uncursed orcish spear (-2, 1d8+2) [75s]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed long bow of accuracy (+8, +2) [30s]
Missiles ('/')
uncursed arrow (+3, 1d6) [2s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows of jelly slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [4s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+2) [4s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+2, 1d6) [4s]
uncursed winged arrow (+0, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed barbed arrow of targeting (+6, 1d6+6) [2s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [4s]
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+1) [4s]
uncursed arrow (+1, 1d6+1) [2s]
bundle of 30 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [60s]
heap of 2 uncursed rocks (+1, 1d4) [10s]
uncursed arrow (+1, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed arrow of targeting (+7, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed arrow (-3, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed rock (+0, 1d4+3) [5s]
uncursed arrow of thunder (+0, 1d6+1) [2s]
blessed arrow (+0, 1d6) [2s]
uncursed arrow (+0, 1d6-1) [2s]
bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [20s]
Tools (']')
uncursed torch [10s]
blessed torch [10s]
blessed torch (4186 turns of fuel remaining) [10s]
uncursed box with flint and steel (18) [5s]
uncursed tinderbox (15) [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed waterproof blankets [20s]
uncursed fletchery set (6) [70s]
uncursed round key [1s]
blessed waterproof blanket [10s]
uncursed climbing set [180s]
Rings ('=')
uncursed ring of the fish [1s]
uncursed ring of luck [1s]
uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s]
uncursed ring of defense +1 [1s]
Wands ('\')
cursed wand of wonder (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (8 charges) [3s]
cursed wand of trap creation (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of ball lightning (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of far slaying (5 charges) [3s]
Potions ('!')
cursed potion of invisibility [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of wonder [6s]
uncursed potion of troll blood [2s]
uncursed potion of exchange [4s]
uncursed potion of boost dexterity [2s]
heap of 5 potions of holy water [20s]
cursed potion of ultra healing [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of healing [8s]
uncursed potion of potential strength [4s]
blessed potion of learning [4s]
uncursed potion of balance [4s]
blessed potion of potential learning [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of carrot juice [8s]
heap of 6 uncursed potions of water [24s]
uncursed potion of gain attributes [4s]
uncursed potion of cure poison [2s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of light [4s]
uncursed scroll of danger [2s]
uncursed scroll of power [2s]
uncursed papyrus scroll [2s]
cursed scroll of identify [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [4s]
uncursed scroll of magic mapping [2s]
uncursed blank scroll [2s]
uncursed scroll of identify [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of gold detection [4s]
uncursed scroll of great identify [2s]
Books ('"')
uncursed spellbook of Light [100s]
Food ('%')
heap of 17 cursed spenseweeds [34s]
heap of 26 cursed moss patches of mareilon [52s]
heap of 10 cursed burb roots [20s]
heap of 8 cursed pepper petals [16s]
heap of 7 cursed alraunia antidotes [14s]
heap of 2 cursed curaria mancox herbs [4s]
heap of 3 cursed stomacemptia herbs [6s]
uncursed herb seed [2s]
heap of 7 blessed spenseweeds [14s]
heap of 4 uncursed spenseweeds [8s]
heap of 7 cursed morgia roots [14s]
heap of 2 uncursed stomacemptia herbs [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed pepper petals [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed burb roots [4s]
heap of 6 uncursed morgia roots [12s]
heap of 2 uncursed stomafillia herbs [4s]
blessed stomacemptia herb [2s]
heap of 3 cursed stomafillia herbs [6s]
heap of 4 blessed morgia roots [8s]
heap of 3 uncursed moss patches of mareilon [6s]
heap of 2 cursed devil's roses [4s]
blessed devil's rose [2s]
heap of 4 cursed demon daisies [8s]
heap of 2 uncursed alraunia antidotes [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed curaria mancox herbs [4s]
cursed iron ration [100s]
Valuables ('$')
5107 gold pieces [51s]



As I can see best tactic will be:
1. Drink potions of wonder to get some offensive spells
2. If some ball spells come up try to use it, otherwise continue my journey untill I have some
reliable magic damage source(wand of fireballs, spells, alchemy, etc.)
3. Scum for booze before fight to have some backup charges in wands.

divij
09-13-2014, 10:38 AM
this same exact thing happened to me.....less than a week ago. i tried to hit him with my sword of shapness a couple of times at berserk as a deulist with lvl 10 in swords but didnt work. finally i had to do something which i find to be cowardly and use my wand of fireballs and it got him down to red hp and he went into blind rage.....and the whole ordeal became he hit me i had to use extra healing...he hit me again..i had to use extra healing again...alll the while he was at full hp cause of his healing. in the end i tpd to a safe location got back at full hp tpd back and killed him with fireballs. however there was a REAL risk he was gonna kill me. the end result is me haing to use 1 prayer and 4 healing potions to get a shield artificat on a deulist all because im headstrong and dont like 'running from challenges'.
i suggest you ignore this guy use magic mapping and tp to the donwstairs....

Blasphemous
09-13-2014, 12:22 PM
What about that guaranteed wand of fireballs from Thrundarr for his quests?
It will sort this quickling lord out pretty fast.
He's very experienced which is below extremely experienced.
I'd say lvl 30-35, so pretty dangerous but not a particularly high HP pool.
Coward + two zaps of fireball wand and you're done.
On a side note, maybe he's guarding some useless artifact that you really don't need?
In that case you could simply ignore him for now and return later when you can easily take him out.

Eol
09-13-2014, 12:22 PM
The guy is dead, I killed him in melee with RCT, thanks to high polearms skill, Find weakness and ratling who helped me to nail the bastard in corridor. The armor is really fine leather armor "Nature's Companion". And BTW, was Nature's nerfed a little? Great Identify says nothing about lightning immunity on it. It's still rocks however. And thanks for advices, they were very helpful.

Blasphemous
09-13-2014, 12:23 PM
It still has both immunities, your scroll was probably not blessed and thus did not reveal all information.