questions on wishes

[Ravenshire]

So right now im playing a ME Pally that has made it past the ToEF and have scouted all the way to D 48 as well as the UL cave system. im currently wielding a Mace of Destruction and have been using it for most of the game. im currently C and have fed 6 artifacts to the demented ratling they were: scorched spear, phial, moon sickle, sword of nonark, black troc, and Big Punch. Im currently sitting on 3 wishes and curious if i should use these for the items needed for Gaab'bay as i think im going to attempt an ultra ending as i was able to save Kelly via a very lucky early game AoLS. was curious about other opinions.

[JellySlayer]

Do you have Rain of Sorrows?

[Silfir]

Keep at least one for speed. It trivializes boss fights.

[grobblewobble]

Im currently sitting on 3 wishes and curious if i should use these for the items needed for Gaab'bay as i think im going to attempt an ultra ending
At this point in the game, I assume you already checked the casino and greater vaults? Did you kill sraxxarrakex yet? If so and you still didn't find some of the quest items, don't hesitate to wish for them.

[Ravenshire]

i havent my damage still feels somewhat low so ive been hesitant to try out anything crazy. i have cleared the greater vault in the FJC and there was a second generated in CoC that had serpent bite and silver key that i was able to get. right now one thing im thinking of doing is just using the wishes then getting crowning and hoping for justifier which would massively increase my damage. ill post up my log when i get a chance as its on my other computer.

[Ravenshire]

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Character Information
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Suratobi St:26 Le:34 Wi:19 Dx:33 To:21 Ch:24 Ap:25 Ma:49 Pe:38 C
DV/PV: 50/33 H: 134(189) P: 347(347) Exp: 28/4797664 M: 88251



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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Unarmed fighting 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25
Daggers & knives 2 +2 +0 +0 basic 40
Clubs & hammers 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25
Maces & flails 13 +14 +10 +4 Mastery 7460
Swords 10 +9 +6 +3 excellent 1221
Axes 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25
Whips 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 25
Pole arms 7 +7 +3 +6 skilled 445
Twohanded weapons 3 +3 +3 +1 basic 65
Staves 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 25

Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
--------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Bows 5 +10 +7 +1 skilled 35
Crossbows 7 +14 +10 +2 skilled 117
Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7

Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 12 +24 Mastery 2731


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +102 bonus to hit, 5d6+49 damage


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 9, base range: 9, +66 bonus to hit, 1d10+37 damage




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Spells
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Calm Monster : 7, 15pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Disease : 15, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
Darkness : 211, 4pp (Effectivity: +1)
Disarm Trap : 299, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Divine Key : 134, 12pp (Effectivity: +2)
Earthquake : 195, 80pp (Effectivity: +0)
Enlightenment : 214, 75pp (Effectivity: +0)
Ethereal Bridge : 687, 98pp (Effectivity: +2)
Farsight : 4, 33pp (Effectivity: +1)
Greater Divine Touch : 6, 194pp (Effectivity: +0)
Heavenly Fury : 84, 34pp (Effectivity: +3)
Hellish Flames : 301, 8pp (Effectivity: +10)
Invoked Devastation : 244, 30pp (Effectivity: +2)
Knowledge of the Ancients: 676, 40pp (Effectivity: +1)
Lesser Divine Touch : 276, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Light : 182, 2pp (Effectivity: +5)
Lordly Might : 699, 9pp (Effectivity: +5)
Minor Punishment : 155, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Nether Bolt : 37, 19pp (Effectivity: +3)
Remove Curse : 9, 95pp (Effectivity: +0)
Seal of the Spheres : 310, 8pp (Effectivity: +2)
Veil of the Gods : 790, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Web : 153, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)


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Skills
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Alertness ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Athletics ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Backstabbing ............. 53 (good) [+1]
Climbing .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Concentration ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Dodge .................... 80 (great) [+1d3]
First aid ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 54 (good) [+2d4]
Healing ..................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy .................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Necromancy ............... 11 (mediocre) [+0]
Pick locks ............... 9 (poor) [+3d5]
Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+1]
Swimming ................. 98 (superb) [+1d5]
Tactics ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Two weapon combat ........ 54 (good) [+2d4]


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Effects of Corruption
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You sport gills (Ap: -3, water breathing).
Your antennae explore the details of your environment (Ap: -4).
Your bones are made from bronze (Dx: -2, DV: -2, PV: +3).


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Inventory
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Total weight: 8197 stones Carrying capacity: 60802 stones

He: blessed eternium cap [+0, +4] [28s]
Ne: -
Bo: uncursed fine leather armor (named) (+2, +0) [+2, +8] (+15 spd) [120s]
Gi: blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Cl: uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s]
RH: blessed mace of destruction (+5, 5d6+9) [120s]
LH: uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+13, +4] [70s]
RR: uncursed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
LR: uncursed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
Br: bracers of protection [+0, +2] [10s]
Ga: uncursed fencing gloves of fidelity [+3, +1] {Ch+6} [6s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
MW: uncursed long bow (+3, +2) [30s]
Mi: bundle of 9 uncursed arrows of giant slaying (+3, 1d10+3) [18s]
Tl: -

[Ravenshire]

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Stuff
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Total weight: 7728 stones Carrying capacity: 60802 stones

Helmets ('[')
uncursed mithril cap [+0, +2] [40s]
uncursed crown of science [+4, +8] {Le+9} [65s]
uncursed eternium cap [+0, +4] [28s]
blessed eternium cap [+0, +4] [28s]
Armor ('[')
uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
uncursed white dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [-2, +11] [200s]
blessed red dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +15] [220s]
blessed blue dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +10] [200s]
uncursed padded eternium plate mail (-1, -2) [-1, +13] [240s]
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Cloaks ('[')
uncursed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+4, +0] [30s]
uncursed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+2, +0] [30s]
cloak of defense [+3, +0] [20s]
Girdles ('[')
uncursed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Boots ('[')
uncursed eternium boots [+0, +8] [55s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed necklace of rabies resistance [2s]
uncursed amulet of greed [3s]
uncursed amulet of balance [3s]
uncursed amulet of protection +3 [3s]
heap of 3 uncursed necklaces of the silver tongue {Ch+3} [6s]
heap of 6 uncursed necklaces of rapid healing [12s]
uncursed amulet of light [3s]
uncursed necklace of the eye [3s]
heap of 3 uncursed amulets of free action [9s]
uncursed ankh [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed amulets of speed (+3 spd) [6s]
uncursed pendant of mana {Ma+2} [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed amulets of protection from undead [6s]
uncursed amulet of health [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed amulets of perseverance {Wi+3} [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed amulets of death ray resistance [14s]
blessed amulet of light [3s]
blessed pendant of beauty {Ap+6} [3s]
amulet of free action [3s]
Bracers (',')
uncursed bracers of defense [+2, +0] [10s]
heap of 2 uncursed pairs of bracers of protection [+0, +2] [20s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
blessed pick axe (+0, 1d6+1) [75s]
uncursed balanced eternium long sword (+5, 2d8+7) [20s]
dagger [13s]
spear [25s]
Two-handed weapons ('(')
heap of 2 uncursed great axes (+2, 2d7+3) [-2, +0] [210s]
quarterstaff [20s]
halberd [50s]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed heavy crossbow of accuracy (+12, +3) [140s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 6 uncursed weighted arrows (+0, 1d6+4) [12s]
uncursed quarrel of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [4s]
bundle of 30 uncursed quarrels of jelly slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [120s]
bundle of 13 uncursed rusty quarrels (+1, 2d6-3) [26s]
uncursed rusty quarrel (+2, 2d6) [2s]
bundle of 7 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+1, 2d6+6) [7s]
bundle of 2 uncursed penetrating quarrels (+1, 2d6) [4s]
bundle of 9 uncursed mithril sling bullets (+4, 2d5) [27s]
bundle of 6 uncursed black hurthling quarrels of slaying (+1, 1d3+2)
uncursed quarrel of targeting (+7, 2d6) [2s]
bundle of 6 uncursed arrows (+3, 1d6) [12s]
bundle of 4 uncursed mithril quarrels (+1, 2d6+3) [8s]
bundle of 23 uncursed rusty quarrels (+1, 2d6) [46s]
bundle of 6 uncursed quarrels (+2, 2d6) [12s]
bundle of 58 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [116s]
bundle of 8 uncursed eternium arrows (+1, 2d6+8) [8s]
bundle of 9 blessed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [18s]
bundle of 17 uncursed arrows (+2, 1d6) [34s]
bundle of 20 uncursed arrows of construct slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [40s]
bundle of 3 uncursed eternium quarrels (-1, 4d6+10) [3s]
bundle of 9 uncursed griffon-feathered arrows (+0, 1d6) [18s]
bundle of 7 uncursed arrows (-1, 1d6+2) [14s]
uncursed rock (+0, 1d4) [5s]
bundle of 18 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6) [36s]
uncursed boomerang (+3, 2d4+2) [20s]
bundle of 10 uncursed barbed quarrels (+1, 2d6+6) [20s]
bundle of 7 uncursed quarrels of giant slaying (+3, 2d8+3) [28s]
bundle of 2 uncursed eternium arrows (+3, 2d6+8) [2s]
bundle of 12 cursed quarrels (+1, 2d6+3) [24s]
uncursed javelin of death (+12, 6d6+1) [40s]
bundle of 6 uncursed adamantium drakish scurgari (+7, 1d8+7) [42s]
bundle of 5 cursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [10s]
bundle of 7 uncursed mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [14s]
bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels (+0, 2d6+1) [10s]
bundle of 3 uncursed barbed eternium arrows (+1, 2d6+14) [3s]
bundle of 6 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+2, 2d6+6) [6s]
bundle of 7 uncursed black hurthling quarrels (+1, 1d3+2) [14s]
bundle of 12 uncursed quarrels (+4, 2d6) [24s]
bundle of 19 uncursed quarrels of construct slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [76s]
bundle of 11 blessed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [22s]
bundle of 9 arrows of giant slaying (+3, 1d10+3) [18s]
bundle of 3 arrows [6s]
rock [5s]
bundle of 17 quarrels [34s]
bundle of 6 quarrels [6s]
Tools (']')
heap of 2 uncursed holy symbols [10s]
heap of 3 uncursed fireproof blankets [30s]
heap of 2 uncursed waterproof blankets [20s]
uncursed climbing set [180s]
uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10} [100s]
uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10} [100s]
uncursed ancient white dragon figurine of wondrous power [25s]
uncursed greater moloch figurine of wondrous power [25s]
writing set [5s]
silver key [1s]
fireproof blanket [10s]
Rings ('=')
heap of 3 uncursed rings of cold resistance [3s]
heap of 4 uncursed rings of searching [4s]
blessed ring of djinni summoning [1s]
blessed brass ring [1s]
uncursed ring of the fish [1s]
heap of 3 uncursed rings of luck [3s]
uncursed ring of doom [1s]
heap of 4 uncursed rings of stun resistance [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed rings of fire resistance [3s]
uncursed ring of defense +1 [1s]
blessed ring of ice [1s]
uncursed ring of weakness [1s]
uncursed ring of invisibility [1s]
uncursed ring of minor elemental mastery [+0, +0] [1s]
heap of 3 uncursed rings of the clear mind [3s]
uncursed ring of damage [1s]
uncursed ring of regeneration [1s]
heap of 2 rings of djinni summoning [2s]
ring of stun resistance [1s]
Wands ('\')
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of item detection (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of light (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of poison (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of far slaying (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of fireballs (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of ball lightning (4 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of ball lightning (5 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of fireballs (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of stunning (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap detection (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster detection (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster detection (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster detection (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of gold detection (5 charges) [6s]
uncursed wand of door creation (8 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of wonder (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (6 charges) [3s]
cursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of light (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of cold (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of stunning (6 charges) [3s]
cursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of knocking (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of earthquakes (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of knocking (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
wand of fireballs [3s]
wand of trap creation [3s]
wand of magic missiles [3s]

[Ravenshire]

Potions ('!')
heap of 7 uncursed potions of invisibility [28s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of healing [8s]
heap of 5 uncursed potions of cure poison [10s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of potential learning [12s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of raw mana [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of youth [8s]
uncursed potion of stun recovery [2s]
uncursed potion of potential mana [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed oils of rust removal [6s]
uncursed potion of sickness [2s]
heap of 12 uncursed potions of carrot juice [48s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of oil [8s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of potential beauty [8s]
uncursed potion of longevity [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of insight [6s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of boost dexterity [6s]
uncursed potion of potential dexterity [4s]
uncursed potion of boost charisma [2s]
uncursed potion of boost strength [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of boost willpower [4s]
uncursed potion of confusion [2s]
uncursed potion of potential charisma [4s]
blessed potion of cure corruption [2s]
heap of 2 cursed potions of cure poison [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of charisma [8s]
blessed potion of potential charisma [4s]
cursed potion of wonder [2s]
uncursed potion of uselessness [2s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of beauty [12s]
uncursed potion of wonder [2s]
uncursed potion of poison [4s]
uncursed potion of balance [4s]
blessed potion of potential beauty [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed berzio potions [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of water [8s]
heap of 5 potions of holy water [20s]
heap of 2 potions of unholy water [8s]
blessed potion of cure poison [2s]
blessed potion of potential mana [4s]
potion of potential charisma [4s]
potion of invisibility [4s]
potion of boost charisma [2s]
heap of 2 potions of insight [4s]
potion of insight [2s]
potion of boost mana [2s]
potion of cure poison [2s]
potion of water [4s]
potion of confusion [2s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of power [8s]
heap of 4 uncursed blank scrolls [8s]
uncursed scroll of repair [2s]
heap of 6 uncursed scrolls of item detection [12s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of gold detection [8s]
uncursed scroll of amnesia [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of balance [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of great identify [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of item destruction [6s]
uncursed IBM guild manual [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of darkness [4s]
blessed scroll of uncursing [2s]
heap of 11 uncursed scrolls of identify [22s]
blessed scroll of identify [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of familiar summoning [4s]
heap of 6 blessed scrolls of corruption removal [12s]
uncursed scroll of dark predictions [2s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of luck [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of protection [4s]
uncursed scroll of monster aggravation [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of ill fate [4s]
uncursed scroll of monster detection [2s]
heap of 2 blessed scrolls of light [4s]
blessed scroll of peace [2s]
uncursed scroll of increase melee accuracy [2s]
blessed scroll of item creation [2s]
uncursed scroll of defense [2s]
blessed scroll of amnesia [2s]
uncursed scroll of teleportation [2s]
scroll of light [2s]
scroll of charging [2s]
scroll of item destruction [2s]
heap of 2 scrolls of defense [4s]
scroll of magic mapping [2s]
scroll of item creation [2s]
scroll of protection [2s]
scroll of identify [2s]
heap of 2 scrolls of power [4s]
Books ('"')
uncursed spellbook of Earthquake [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Lesser Divine Touch [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Lesser Divine Touch [100s]
spellbook of Divine Key [100s]
Food ('%')
heap of 5 uncursed alraunia antidotes [10s]
heap of 17 uncursed demon daisies [34s]
heap of 24 uncursed moss patches of mareilon [48s]
heap of 2 uncursed curaria mancox herbs [4s]
heap of 7 uncursed devil's roses [14s]
heap of 5 uncursed stomacemptia herbs [10s]
uncursed pepper petal [2s]
heap of 10 uncursed burb roots [20s]
heap of 2 uncursed lumps of beeswax [10s]
heap of 25 cursed morgia roots [50s]
heap of 5 cursed devil's roses [10s]
heap of 4 cursed burb roots [8s]
heap of 11 cursed moss patches of mareilon [22s]
cursed pepper petal [2s]
heap of 2 spenseweeds [4s]
heap of 9 morgia roots [18s]
pepper petal [2s]
burb root [2s]
heap of 2 stomacemptia herbs [4s]
heap of 2 demon daisies [4s]
heap of 2 alraunia antidotes [4s]
heap of 2 stomafillia herbs [4s]
devil's rose [2s]
curaria mancox herb [2s]
heap of 6 moss patches of mareilon [12s]
dwarven sausage [20s]
Valuables ('$')
285585 gold pieces [2855s]
Gems ('*')
heap of 2 uncursed crystals of power [2s]
heap of 3 uncursed sapphires [3s]
uncursed amber [1s]
uncursed worthless piece of green glass [1s]
cursed opal [1s]
heap of 2 uncursed aquamarines [2s]
blessed aquamarine [1s]
uncursed opal [1s]
cursed crystal of darkness [1s]
uncursed turquoise [1s]
blue gem [1s]
red gem [1s]

[Ravenshire]

ok so here is my log file the dagger that is 13 stones is serpents bite and i think i might swap over to using that as the perma poison is very nice plus being a humanoid slayer

[Carter]

you went to D48 with only 189hp? your braver than me.

TBH looking at your character you don't have the luxury to spend 3 wishes on the items for the quest. Your toughness/str/dex are all way too low to kill Andy, which means you'd need to store those wishes for speed / other items to boost up your character.

I assume the maze is next for the stat boosts?

[Ravenshire]

didnt think i could handle the maze as a ME with no way to find traps so i didnt do it. might have to mess around with some potions of exchange to try and get my stats up alittle higher

[Blasphemous]

If you think you can't handle the maze then what are you doing contemplating an ultra?
Ultras do the maze with eyes closed.

[Ravenshire]

like i said traps were my main concern not the mobs in the maze that and ive tried it on other toons and it was just to much of a daunting task for me to want to think about trying to complete it. i had a thief that was able to walk through it and disable all the traps and i still didnt manage to find the last lvl after being in there for about 4 or 5 lvls trying to get to the bottom.

however on the another note i have obtained both the medal and crown of chaos and am currently L and trying to get to L+ but im lvl 33 and i cant seem to get the final push for get L+ ive been wearing a blessed amulet of order for a good amount of time now and have sacrificed the crown of science in hopes of getting there should i try for the scepter and sac that in hopes of getting the remaining peity.

[Carter]

didnt think i could handle the maze as a ME with no way to find traps so i didnt do it. might have to mess around with some potions of exchange to try and get my stats up alittle higher

the traps really aren't that bad. Especially with a ME since the damage they do is halved.

the stat boosts are more than worth it, even more the free artifact. You had teleport too which makes it even easier since if you have to back track you just teleport.

i did the maze with a mist elf fencer it only took about an hour.

[Ravenshire]

ill keep that in mind on a future player do you know if sacing the sceptre of chaos would likely get me to L+ so i can get crowned