I might need a helping hand, guys! [SPOILERS AHEAD!]

[Rangouren]

Hey!
I'm somewhat new to ADOM and I've just recently bought it on Steam. Made a new character - born in a month of the candle, tough and strong dwarven priest.
At first, I managed to save that goddamn puppy - no idea how, I've just ran through the cave and nearly ate my keyboard on the way back trying to stay alive. Anyway, problem solved.
Next, I've tried my best to rescue that fellow who gave me bridge building book and stuff. Mission accomplished without any problems. Got lucky with a tone of spellbooks and some decent gear.
Went through caves to the High Mount Village (just out of curiosity) and visited Dwarftow to get some quest from the old dwarf - trees, graveyard and ogres done, currently looking for a goddam lightning lizard.. By the way - WHY THERE IS NO FREAKIN' TELEPORT BACK TO SURFACE FROM DWARFTOWN FOR GODS SAKE?!
Either way, at level 13 I got hit in the head by the papyrus scroll inviting me to a party with Rehetep. He wasnt very charming so I've decided to punch the shit out of him. Got Ankh and Wrapping.

And since then I have no idea what to do... Which quest to take, where to go or ... anything.
I'm stuck.

So my point is that there is no questline walkthrough. I know that every single character have to be played differently but I think there should be a questline guide or anything like that because new players are getting lost in the game which is kind of frustrating..

Where should I go now and what should I do at L17?

I've tried to accomplish the Old Berserker quest but there is no way in hell I'd remember the very first monster I've slayed so I am just roaming around Infinited Dungeon (currently at 16'th floor) killing stuff and hoping to devastate enough of the stuff I've killed at the start of my journey.

Oh, and I've completed the Arena, too...

Any guides, please?


And now out of topic:
1. How do I take screenshots?
2. Why there is no altar in towns beside Dwarftown? I've tried beastfighter (who's been slaughtered by some random monster) and it was so much pain in the a** trying every single piece of gear without identifying..


I hope that my post is understandable.. My english blows because I dont have an opportunity to use it besides forums like this.

Anyway, regards guys!

[Couchfighter]

I can easily understand how you might get stuck at this point without having read any spoilers, and I will just nudge you one step forward without trying to spoil the whole thing for you. Deeper below the dwarven city and the animated forest is an obstacle that you'll need to do another quest from the old dwarf to pass. Ask him about 'portal'. Those random monster kill quests from the old dwarf can be a bit of a grind to finish, and you got a bit unlucky with yours, lightning lizards are a somewhat uncommon spawn.

Oh, and there are some more guaranteed places to feature altars, and they can also be generated on most of the regular dungeon floors, if you're lucky.

[Rick]

Any guides, please?



Well, keep going down few levels (past animated forest), you will stumble into your answers:) It's really ermetic this game at first look, but there are a lot of hints....

[Soirana]

Hey!
1. At first, I managed to save that goddamn puppy - no idea how, I've just ran through the cave and nearly ate my keyboard on the way back trying to stay alive. Anyway, problem solved.
2. Next, I've tried my best to rescue that fellow who gave me bridge building book and stuff.

3. Went through caves to the High Mount Village (just out of curiosity) and visited Dwarftow to get some quest from the old dwarf - trees, graveyard and ogres done, currently looking for a goddam lightning lizard.

4. WHY THERE IS NO FREAKIN' TELEPORT BACK TO SURFACE FROM DWARFTOWN FOR GODS SAKE?!


5.And since then I have no idea what to do... Which quest to take, where to go or ... anything. I'm stuck.

6.So my point is that there is no questline walkthrough.

7.Where should I go now and what should I do at L17?

[look at 3]Oh, and I've completed the Arena, too...

8.Any guides, please?


9.. How do I take screenshots?
10. Why there is no altar in towns beside Dwarftown?
11.it was so much pain in the a** trying every single piece of gear without identifying..

1. Puppy quest is more of trap. It is nice to open location, but might as well let him die. Who is more valuable your character or puppy?
2.Well, if you have healing (as priest) it would be better to activate druid quest instead. By design you get access to either carpenter or druid quest (depending on which NPc you speak first.)
3.Well, if you have not done other stuff (in this case Arena) out of order, dwarven elder would not assign you random monster kills.
4. No idea... but in general there are no teleports between levels. The late game has one shortcut to surface (not from dwarftown).
5. Well, there are some messages indicating significance of CoC (Caverns of Chaos). For unspoiled player I think idea is that you go down CoC untill you meet obstacle, then you figure it out and do quests allowing to go deeper. Spoiled ones clear that stuff in advance.
6. Adom guidebook has some basic ideas on how game should progress, Steam has guide on dealing with elemental temples, some classes has guides (adomguides.blogspot).
7. Down CoC untill you can't anymore? Also there is lots of optional places - rift/library, frost queen, high king dungeons, random dungeons... It is not world on the rails...
8. look at 6.
9. "(", ")" create character log files. Steam probably has a way to do proper screenshot in overlay.
10. Towns have guaranteed feature in shops. Altars are generated randomly (except temples and dwarftown).
11. Don't Id everything? Weapons can be checked via price in shop and most of armor can be ignored [once you have a passable item in that slot].

[Rangouren]

I can easily understand how you might get stuck at this point without having read any spoilers, and I will just nudge you one step forward without trying to spoil the whole thing for you. Deeper below the dwarven city and the animated forest is an obstacle that you'll need to do another quest from the old dwarf to pass. Ask him about 'portal'. Those random monster kill quests from the old dwarf can be a bit of a grind to finish, and you got a bit unlucky with yours, lightning lizards are a somewhat uncommon spawn.

Oh, and there are some more guaranteed places to feature altars, and they can also be generated on most of the regular dungeon floors, if you're lucky.

Don't worry about spoilering anything to me. I dont mind as far as it will help me went through the game :)
I've completed the portal quest, I think. Cleared a graveyard, got gloves/bracers/whatever.
And yeah, lightning wizard is a pain in the a** to find....


Well, keep going down few levels (past animated forest), you will stumble into your answers:) It's really ermetic this game at first look, but there are a lot of hints....

I'm afraid I am stuck much more than you think, because if I go down deeper through CoC, I'm getting kicked in the arse by monsters I can barely handle..
I think I got really lucky finding decent gear but still - deepest levels of CoC are troublesome as hell...


1. Puppy quest is more of trap. It is nice to open location, but might as well let him die. Who is more valuable your character or puppy?
2.Well, if you have healing (as priest) it would be better to activate druid quest instead. By design you get access to either carpenter or druid quest (depending on which NPc you speak first.)
3.Well, if you have not done other stuff (in this case Arena) out of order, dwarven elder would not assign you random monster kills.
4. No idea... but in general there are no teleports between levels. The late game has one shortcut to surface (not from dwarftown).
5. Well, there are some messages indicating significance of CoC (Caverns of Chaos). For unspoiled player I think idea is that you go down CoC untill you meet obstacle, then you figure it out and do quests allowing to go deeper. Spoiled ones clear that stuff in advance.
6. Adom guidebook has some basic ideas on how game should progress, Steam has guide on dealing with elemental temples, some classes has guides (adomguides.blogspot).
7. Down CoC untill you can't anymore? Also there is lots of optional places - rift/library, frost queen, high king dungeons, random dungeons... It is not world on the rails...
8. look at 6.
9. "(", ")" create character log files. Steam probably has a way to do proper screenshot in overlay.
10. Towns have guaranteed feature in shops. Altars are generated randomly (except temples and dwarftown).
11. Don't Id everything? Weapons can be checked via price in shop and most of armor can be ignored [once you have a passable item in that slot].

1. Well, I've somehow managed to complete it so it doesnt really matter now :P
2. It was a random choice. I've been doing druid quest on my characters repeatedly so I've decided to do the other one instead.
3. Arena is done. As I said - looking for a lightning lizard is a pain...
4. Yeah, I know that there is no option to teleport other than in a dungeon/wilderness level. Still, its an annoyig thing to run trough CoC all the time just to sell picked up junk.
5. I am not afraid of spoilers. In my opinion its better to know what to do next instead of randomly running around the world map.
6. Been there looking for clues - still, no guide that can help new players went through main storyiline were made, unfortunately.
7. Problem is that I have no idea where to look for library or rift.. I dont want to go somewhere when I get instakill.
8. :P
9. Thank you!
10. Yeah but it's annoying.. Sometimes you can get an altar in a SMC L1 but sometimes you have to look for it in a deepest levels of a dungeon where you cant survive for a freaking second.. IMO - there should be an altar in Terinyo or that bandit village which name I cant pronounce.
11. ...same as at 10.

[Shinae]

- F12 takes screenshot in steam.
- Berkserker quest is more like you are done with it when you are done with it. I usually just later return and check if I've done it or not. I don't go Infinite Dungeon to kill monsters.
- There is several place you can go in world map. I recommend checking Putrid, Moldy, Shadowy random dungeons first. Then you can try Sinister random dungeon, it's a bit harder than first 3. Ancient and Crumbling random dungeons are for little higher level characters.
- Ice Queen Domain can be tried as well. Be wary! Not the easiest place.
- Or simply go deeper in CoC and keep doing Thundrrar quests in dwarf town by 'C'hatting with him and asking him about "Quest"
- Do everything possible before trying Tower of Eternal Flame. Because it's one of the hardest places in game.

[Rangouren]

- F12 takes screenshot in steam.
- Berkserker quest is more like you are done with it when you are done with it. I usually just later return and check if I've done it or not. I don't go Infinite Dungeon to kill monsters.
- There is several place you can go in world map. I recommend checking Putrid, Moldy, Shadowy random dungeons first. Then you can try Sinister random dungeon, it's a bit harder than first 3. Ancient and Crumbling random dungeons are for little higher level characters.
- Ice Queen Domain can be tried as well. Be wary! Not the easiest place.
- Or simply go deeper in CoC and keep doing Thundrrar quests in dwarf town by 'C'hatting with him and asking him about "Quest"
- Do everything possible before trying Tower of Eternal Flame. Because it's one of the hardest places in game.

Thank you for the tip about screenshots!
I'll try those dungeons you mentioned and I'll do my best to stay away from ToEE as much as possible :D


Another question - how can I edit autosave feature? I guess I changed it to autosave every 500 turns somehow (but I dont remember how..) and its annoying as hell..

[Shinae]

:S for setting autosave interval.

[Soirana]

3. Arena is done. As I said - looking for a lightning lizard is a pain...

5. I am not afraid of spoilers. In my opinion its better to know what to do next instead of randomly running around the world map.
6. Been there looking for clues - still, no guide that can help new players went through main storyiline were made, unfortunately.

Well, you got lizard quest... cause dwarven elder can't assign you Arena quest - since you done it. Solution don't do Arena to early.

I don't know what your char looks like. But at lv17 it's normal to do high kings (NW through minor mountains), dark forge (low center) and ice queen stuff. All areas are pretty much well described in guidebook.

DF is done for armor/weapons, ice queen for xp and high kings essentially needs to be done eventually. The best gear at this point is good shield and kickass weapon... Guaranteed kickassish weapon is at the end of dwarven elder quest line... which.. well, don't do Arena to early.

[Soirana]

p.s. there is a page with some walthroughs:
http://plog.atspace.com/
or you can try Silfir's Let's play on youtube...

[Rangouren]

Okay, first of all - thank you for the advices! :)
Secondly, I've decided to show you screenshots of my Priest, just in case you'll find out something I didnt and eventually help me find a place to grind/boost my gear up.

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So that's how does it looks like right now. I've cleared Darkforge (no luck with gear, unfortunately) and High King. Not using the High King ring now, tho, cause I think its better to have invisibility and teleport control right now (the only Blink Dog I've met was friendly and I just couldnt kill it without feeling bad afterwards :P)

By the way.. is it me or invisibility simply doesnt help at all in Animated Forrest?

Do you think I am ready to try library? I do have some decent spells but I dont mind getting more or better ones ;)
How does that teaching guy works in a Dwarftown? I've paid him like 100.000 gold for strength but it doesnt seems like growing at all... Same for the other stats. And I'm pretty sure I've been careful enough not to get my stats drained by some random bastard.
Oh, and I've been crowned with armor... I guess it's not the best reward for a Priest. I'm still curious if Wrapping wouldnt be a better choice..

Once again - thanks for the tips!

EDIT:
Should I try and kill that dwarf in the Darkforge? I am Lawfull and he seems like a bad guy. Do I stand a chance? And is it worth it?

Been doing some grave digging at the Griffyard, too. Killed 4 Master Liches and an Emperor Lich without any difficulties AND WITHOUT ANY LOOT worth mentioning, too.

EDIT 2:
I hope that friendly Cat Lord is not necessary for completing the game... I've killed some cats in a corridors and... well.. I just did not care about them afterwards. I guess I have like a tone of dead cats in my deadlist right now...

[zliplus]

Check out the Frost Queen's Domain (and what follows) - that's a great place for some exp, loot, and especially strength gains.

[Rangouren]

Check out the Frost Queen's Domain (and what follows) - that's a great place for some exp, loot, and especially strength gains.

I'll do that right now, thanks!
Would be great to finish the game for the first time :D

I just took two screenshots - one showing stats after drinking some spare potions, second one showing my resistances.

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...and I've just noticed that potion boosts are just temporarly.. Great... back to stats from the previous screenshots.... :/

[Shinae]

In future I probably would avoid picking +1 Toughness talent. There are *ahem* easy ways to raise toughness mid game. I used to take Healthy as well, but I guess it's not that effective talent according to some people. Quick talent tree is one of my favorite one.

Dwarf in the dark forge can be tough opponent. No real reason to kill him. Try reading graveyard stones before digging, some graves are more profitable than others. ;)

Cat Lord is optional. You just miss reward he gives you and he is very tough opponent to fight if you anger him. But sometimes it's just impossible to avoid cats and you have to face him.

[mjz15]

Invisibility helps a lot in the animated forest. Makes things a lot safer and less tedious. Don't wear the ring of invisibility permanently however, it greatly increases the rate in which you get hungry. Same thing goes for cloak of invisibility. Wear invis items only when you need them. Animated forest eg, or ice queen domain ;) You can also use the invis ring to sneak through dwarven halls, though I always make sure I have a source of (controlled) teleport at hand in case I run into something too powerful.

[Rangouren]

In future I probably would avoid picking +1 Toughness talent. There are *ahem* easy ways to raise toughness mid game. I used to take Healthy as well, but I guess it's not that effective talent according to some people. Quick talent tree is one of my favorite one.

Dwarf in the dark forge can be tough opponent. No real reason to kill him. Try reading graveyard stones before digging, some graves are more profitable than others. ;)

Cat Lord is optional. You just miss reward he gives you and he is very tough opponent to fight if you anger him. But sometimes it's just impossible to avoid cats and you have to face him.

I have no clue about easier ways to raise anything, honestly :P
I know that you can spam bushes but I've never really been into farming.

Dwarf is... well... Let's say that I'll... umm.. "let him live for now" ;)
Too bad my shortcut from Casino to the surface got a little bit complicated.. Oh well.

Is he tough? Have not met him yet but I heard that he brutally put some mighty PC's to eternal sleep...
And I guess I wont be able to run from him since he is one of the fastest monsters in ADOM...


Invisibility helps a lot in the animated forest. Makes things a lot safer and less tedious. Don't wear the ring of invisibility permanently however, it greatly increases the rate in which you get hungry. Same thing goes for cloak of invisibility. Wear invis items only when you need them. Animated forest eg, or ice queen domain ;) You can also use the invis ring to sneak through dwarven halls, though I always make sure I have a source of (controlled) teleport at hand in case I run into something too powerful.

Well, I went through Dwarven Halls instead and - surprisingly - I am still alive. Ran as hell from Karmic Dragon, tho... I guess he's still roaming somewhere around there.
I must say that invisibility saved my sorry a** over there, huh?

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Ridiculous... I have no clue how to get past those bastards...

Just cleared ToEF and Water Temple, too...
Gotta try again IQD, I guess... Last time I went there I managed to barely survive cause of cold.

[zliplus]

The ancient mummy wrapping gives immunity to cold. As for getting around troublesome spots, dig! Digging is good for lots of things.

Also regarding IQD: avoid fighting if possible (invis is great). Also be careful about autopickup.

[Blank4u47]

My best suggestion is to get far away down the hall and relentlessly bounce wand of far slaying on those bastards