YAVP: pickpocket, the drakeling thief

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Falied UNE:
Fallen champions can't receive the TOTRR from khelly.

After defeating all the temples, finishing the blue dragon caves, killing the ancient karmic wyrm and killing the elemental grues I left the CoC at experience level 41 +/-. I still needed some exp so I decided to kill the water dragon for exp (and for more safe gremlin bombing later).

Killing the water dragon got me from N= to NC. I did a few things to make my alignment better. Then I realized I hadn't talked to blup yet, and that quest gives a nice L boost. 'C'hatting with blup resulted in the message 'ye art a mommy killer' and an alignment drop from N- to C. I became a fallen champion, got struck by a bolt of energy witch I was immune to, and monsters where summoned.

Game progression:

The early game was made easier by the acid spit ability and food preservation of the drakeling. At the start thiefs don't have any magic attacks or archery skills. I also relied heavily on the ability to lock doors with the thieve picks (both as a way to role play and to control enemies). I got very annoyed after putting on gauntlets of peace. This made it very hard to hit anything in melee or with my arrows. I had to scum the ID for a scroll of uncursing.

The midgame was made easy by running a gremlin bomb. I had a wand of teleportation, a crystal of darkness, a ring of the fish, and *one* potion of holy water to bless that ring after putting it on. Note that gremlins see in the dark and that I had no source of invisibility. On coward mode they bare did any damage but they did get a few hits in. After finding a knife of endurance and putting it in my missile slot the regeneration solved the damage problem. After pickpocketing a ring of invisibility it was smooth sailing. My first wish was for herbalism, that was used to get more stoma herbs.

The endgame was very easy. I fed the ratling and did the quests for the medal of chaos. I got crowned with acid immunity and the silver arrow. I did the fire temple and the high king. Then did all the other temples, saved khelly and did the blue dragon caves. I ascended for more gremlin pickpocketing and getting the crown of chaos at day 90.


Thief class evaluation:

Crowning gifts:

Cat's Claw Cloak of Oman Silver Key True Aim Whirlwind Whirlwind

I have to say these are very disappointing. At the very least thieves should be able to get Brannalbin's Cloak of Defense for the +inv bonus since they are very stealthy.

Class powers:

Level 6 automatical search
This ability together with the find traps skill gives a good increased chance to avoid traps.

Level 12 bonus to Backstabbing
Not bad. Allows you to 1-hit kill weak monsters while invisible.

level 18 pilfer shops ability
This is very annoying. When you try pile all the things in a shop then you get an annoying message asking you if you want to steal the item every time you want to pick something up. I tried this in the casino resulting in an angry casino shopkeeper. Money really isn't an issue in this game. This skill *might* be usefull if it had a 100% success rate.

level 25 stun opponent on critical hit
I found this not very useful. For strong opponents there are better guaranteed ways of disabling, and for weak monsters there is no use for this skill. It also only works on humanoids.

level 32 better items pickpocketed
I was very curious about this skill. This is the main reason why I played a thief for this 'gremlin bomb game'.

The results of a pickpocketing session where interesting:
* Almost no more potions of water where pickpocketed (!) get your water before level 32 lol.
* Allot more potions of gain attributes (about 80 for me)
* more amulets of life saving (about 15)
* More rings of djinni summoning and wands of wishing (about 20 rings and 10 wands)
* Allot more slaying ammo (piles of 50+ arrows of -foo- slaying)
* Eternium arrows and ignots (about 100 of each)
* Possible more artifact and better chance for elven mail

Artifacts pickpocketed:
* BoW
* Preserver
* Whirlwind
* Ring of immunity
* Soaker
(Any artifact 10 stones or less can be pickpocketed, that means Ironfist can also be found this way)

Level 40 +20 Speed
Good. Could be a level 50 skill (see suggestions below).

Level 50 invisibility when adjacent to a wall
Getting this at level 50 is really silly. This might be good for a fast normal win game, but in a more elaborate game (or pickpocketing) invisibility is no longer hard to come by at level 50.

Class suggestions
Since thieves can rely on the pick locks ability in the early game, it would be nice to also give them the ability to avoid door traps. Something along the lines of 'your excellent skill in picking locks now allows you to automatically detect and disable any door traps'. This is not overpowered, but useful to stay alive in the early game and it really fits the class.

Another suggestion is to give the ability to be invisible earlier in the game, and possible change it to 'your incredible stealth allows you to sneak invisibly whenever you are not adjacent to any monsters. This would allow sneaky tactics while still making you visible whenever you stand next to a monster (like the arena guard).

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Pickpocket St:99 Le:60 Wi:99 Dx:67 To:99 Ch:98 Ap:83 Ma:90 Pe:53 C-
DV/PV:233/72 H:1474(1474) P:1534(1534) Exp: 50/31172911 DrCh Sp: 275
Invisible Bloated Coward
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Background Information
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Name: Pickpocket Race: female Drakeling Class: Thief
Eye color: blue Hair color: bald Complexion: green
Height: 4'11" Weight: 130 pounds
Age: 23 (grown-up)
Star sign: Sword Birthday: 3/Sword (day 183 of the year)

You decided to become a Thief.

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Inventory
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Total weight: 27706 stones Carrying capacity: 43885 stones

He: blessed helm of water breathing [+7, +5] [30s]
Ne: uncursed sapphire amulet "Preserver" [+4, +4] {Wi+7} [3s]
Bo: blessed eternium plate mail of life (-1, -2) [+7, +14] [240s]
Gi: uncursed eternium girdle [+7, +9] [12s]
Cl: uncursed cloak of invisibility (+0, +1) [+8, +0] [30s]
RH: uncursed poisonous dagger of devastation (+11, 5d4+9) [+1, +0] [10s]
LH: uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+19, +9] [70s]
RR: blessed ring of djinni summoning [1s]
LR: blessed ring of djinni summoning [1s]
Br: uncursed bracers of war [+8, +4] {Dx+8} [10s]
Ga: blessed iron gauntlets "Ironfist" (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7} [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+5, +4] [30s]
MW: blessed long bow of hunting (+9, +5) [30s]
Mi: bundle of 140 blessed eternium arrows (+1, 2d6+8) [140s]
Tl: uncursed dwarven pick axe "Hammerhead" (+2, 2d10+4) [+2, +2] {To+3}[90s]

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Stuff
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Total weight: 26999 stones Carrying capacity: 43885 stones

Armor ('[')
blessed elven chain mail (+1, +1) [+4, +8] [10s]
uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
uncursed moloch armor (-8, -16) [+9, +50] {Dx-20} (-20 spd) [15000s]
Shields ('[')
uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+19, +8] [70s]
Necklaces (''')
heap of 3 blessed amulets of life saving [9s]
blessed ankh [3s]
heap of 11 uncursed amulets of life saving [33s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
heap of 4 uncursed phase daggers (+0, 1d4) [20s]
uncursed knife of endurance (+6, 1d3+6) {To+6} [8s]
heap of 2 uncursed knives of endurance (+6, 1d3+6) {To+4} [16s]
uncursed dagger of death (+1, 5d5+2) [10s]
uncursed sword of Nonnak (+2, 4d3+2) [+2, +2] {Wi+5} [80s]
uncursed whip of the snake (-2, 5d2+8) {Dx+7} (+7 spd) [15s]
uncursed whip of the snake (-2, 5d2+10) {Dx+7} (+7 spd) [15s]
uncursed whip of the snake (-2, 5d2+7) {Dx+7} (+7 spd) [15s]
blessed black rune-covered dagger "Needle" (+8, 3d4) [+4, +1] [10s]
blessed black rune-covered dagger "Sting" (+8, 3d4) [+4, +1] [10s]
blessed dagger of devastation (+0, 5d4+6) [10s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 35 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [140s]
bundle of 90 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [180s]
bundle of 40 uncursed arrows of giant slaying (+3, 1d10+3) [80s]
bundle of 36 uncursed arrows of construct slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [72s]
bundle of 66 blessed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [132s]
bundle of 58 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [116s]
bundle of 48 uncursed eternium quarrels (+1, 4d6+8) [48s]
bundle of 57 uncursed arrows of humanoid slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [114s]
bundle of 40 uncursed arrows of jelly slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [80s]
bundle of 40 uncursed arrows of dragon slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [80s]
bundle of 12 uncursed winged quarrels of slaying (+1, 2d6+3) [24s]
Tools (']')
heap of 6 uncursed magical writing sets (3) [30s]
heap of 11 uncursed magical writing sets (5) [55s]
heap of 9 uncursed magical writing sets (2) [45s]
blessed everburning torch [+2, +0] [10s]
uncursed everburning torch [+4, +0] [10s]
uncursed everburning torch [+3, +0] [10s]
uncursed everburning torch [+1, +0] [10s]
Rings ('=')
blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
heap of 3 uncursed rings of slaying (+9 melee damage, +6 missile damage)
blessed ring of slaying (+9 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
blessed ring of weakness [1s]
Wands ('\')
uncursed wand of death (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (4 charges) [3s]
Potions ('!')
heap of 18 blessed potions of ultra healing [36s]
heap of 33 uncursed potions of cure corruption [66s]
heap of 11 blessed potions of extra healing [22s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 27 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [54s]
heap of 88 uncursed scrolls of teleportation [176s]
Food ('%')
heap of 101 blessed stomafillia herbs [202s]
Gems ('*')
heap of 13 uncursed crystals of light [13s]
heap of 15 uncursed crystals of power [15s]
heap of 13 uncursed crystals of darkness [13s]
heap of 32 uncursed crystals of fire [32s]
heap of 39 uncursed crystals of health [39s]
heap of 11 blessed crystals of knowledge [11s]
heap of 9 blessed crystals of health [9s]
heap of 3 blessed crystals of fire [3s]

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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Unarmed fighting 12 +10 +8 +6 Mastery 486
Daggers & knives 14 +18 +11 +4 Mastery 7385
Clubs & hammers 12 +12 +8 +4 Mastery 256
Maces & flails 12 +12 +8 +4 Mastery 376
Swords 13 +14 +10 +4 Mastery 6388
Axes 12 +12 +10 +3 Mastery 601
Whips 12 +18 +13 +12 Mastery 80
Pole arms 13 +16 +10 +18 Mastery 5846
Twohanded weapons 12 +14 +18 +4 Mastery 324
Staves 12 +14 +6 +26 Mastery 411

Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
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Slings 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 885
Bows 14 +28 +21 +4 Mastery 2782
Crossbows 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 741
Thrown axes & hammers 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 857
Thrown daggers 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 910
Thrown rocks & clubs 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 399
Thrown spears 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 899
Boomerangs & scurgari 13 +26 +19 +4 Mastery 679

Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 12 +24 Mastery 430


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +91 bonus to hit, 5d4+49 damage


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 140, base range: 29, +104 bonus to hit, 2d6+66 damage




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Skills
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Alchemy ................... 40 (fair) [+4d4]
Alertness .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Appraising ................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Archery ...................100 (superb) [+1]
Athletics ................. 75 (great) [+1d5]
Backstabbing ..............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Bridge building ........... 77 (great) [+1d5] (mr)
Climbing ..................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Concentration .............100 (superb) [+1d5]
Cooking ................... 32 (fair) [+1d5] (mr)
Courage ...................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Detect item status ........ 87 (great) [+1]
Detect traps ..............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Disarm traps ..............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Dodge ..................... 55 (good) [+3d3]
Find weakness .............100 (superb) [+1d3]
First aid .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Fletchery ................. 10 (poor) [+3d4] (mr)
Food preservation .........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Gardening ................. 12 (mediocre) [+3d3]
Gemology ..................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Haggling ..................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Healing ...................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Herbalism .................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Law ....................... 75 (great) [+1d3]
Listening .................100 (superb) [+3d4]
Literacy ..................100 (superb) [+1]
Metallurgy ................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Mining .................... 65 (good) [+1d5]
Music ..................... 97 (superb) [+2d4]
Necromancy ................ 66 (good) [+1]
Pick locks ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Pick pockets ..............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Smithing ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Stealth ...................100 (superb) [+3d5]
Survival ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Swimming ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Tactics ...................100 (superb) [+1]
Two weapon combat .........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Ventriloquism ............. 5 (poor) [+4d4]
Woodcraft ................. 27 (mediocre) [+3d3]


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Spells
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Acid Bolt : 395, 15pp (Effectivity: +0)
Bless : 14, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
Burning Hands : 512, 8pp (Effectivity: +1)
Calm Monster : 223, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Critical Wounds: 40, 24pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Disease : 391, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Light Wounds : 434, 5pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Serious Wounds : 48, 15pp (Effectivity: +0)
Darkness : 506, 4pp (Effectivity: +0)
Death Ray : 46, 154pp (Effectivity: +0)
Destroy Undead : 42, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Disarm Trap : 11, 18pp (Effectivity: +0)
Earthquake : 29, 136pp (Effectivity: +0)
Farsight : 494, 17pp (Effectivity: +1)
Fire Bolt : 395, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Fireball : 11, 37pp (Effectivity: +0)
Frost Bolt : 233, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Greater Identify : 17, 183pp (Effectivity: +0)
Heal : 12, 75pp (Effectivity: +0)
Ice Ball : 192, 25pp (Effectivity: +1)
Identify : 284, 75pp (Effectivity: +0)
Improved Fireball : 53, 44pp (Effectivity: +0)
Invisibility : 60, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
Knock : 416, 12pp (Effectivity: +1)
Know Alignment : 306, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Light : 332, 3pp (Effectivity: +2)
Lightning Ball : 25, 52pp (Effectivity: +0)
Lightning Bolt : 358, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Lock : 302, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Map : 301, 40pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Missile : 448, 7pp (Effectivity: +5)
Mystic Shovel : 189, 100pp (Effectivity: +0)
Neutralize Poison : 248, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Petrification : 12, 225pp (Effectivity: +0)
Remove Curse : 27, 86pp (Effectivity: +0)
Revelation : 36, 54pp (Effectivity: +0)
Slow Monster : 275, 7pp (Effectivity: +2)
Slow Poison : 237, 6pp (Effectivity: +0)
Strength of Atlas : 19, 18pp (Effectivity: +0)
Stun Ray : 636, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Summon Monsters : 12, 56pp (Effectivity: +0)
Teleportation : 188, 21pp (Effectivity: +7)
Web : 617, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Wish : 27, 5190pp (Effectivity: +0)

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Her further life:
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After she leaves the Drakalor Chain she is welcomed by her people with great
honors. They acknowledge her noble deeds, her valor, her cunning and her
great skills that helped to prevent the complete destruction of the world
she knows. She returns to her people victorious and quickly rises to power.
She leads her people on to glorious conquests and creates a vast empire,
eventually falling, betrayed by treachery, on the field of battle.

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Her achievements during her adventures:
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Pickpocket, the drakish thief, saved the world with her brave efforts and
became a great ruler without even stopping to save himself.
She scored 15955100 points and advanced to level 50.
She survived for 0 years, 89 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 21 seconds
(191370 turns).
1 companion was killed during her adventures.
Pickpocket visited 123 places.
Her strength score was modified by +81 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +50 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +78 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +44 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +83 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +89 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +73 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +79 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +39 during her career.
She was the champion of the arena.
She was the head of the thieves guild.
She defeated the arch enemy of a mighty karmic wyrm.
She stopped the generation of nasty bugs.
She saved Khelavaster from certain death.
She left the Drakalor Chain after completing her quest and became a great
leader and famous heroine.
3412 monsters perished under her attacks.
The following 42 artifacts were generated during her adventure:
the si
the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle"
the golden gladius "Death's Sting"
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Air
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth
the heavy crossbow "The Far Slayer"
the silvery arrow "True Aim"
the obsidian quarrel "Thunderstroke"
the scorched spear
the sword of Nonnak
the elemental gauntlets
the ring of the High Kings
the phial of Caladriel
the crown of science
the ancient mummy wrapping
the ankh
the hammer of the gods
the Medal of Chaos
the rune-covered club "Skullcrusher"
the glaive "Long Sting"
the bracers of war
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Mana
the black rune-covered dagger "Needle"
the black rune-covered dagger "Sting"
the rune-covered sling "Whirlwind"
the fine leather armor "Nature's Companion"
the jet-black battle axe "Executor"
the robes of resistance
the staff of the archmagi
the ring of immunity
the rune-covered heavy mace "Purifier"
the medium obsidian shield "Protector"
the sapphire amulet "Preserver"
the crown of leadership
the dwarven pick axe "Hammerhead"
the iron gauntlets "Ironfist"
the black tome of Alsophocus
the shining long spear "Soaker"
the emerald dagger "Serpent's Bite"
the rune-covered halberd "Wyrmlance"
She possessed the following intrinsics:
She was poison resistant (enhanced through an item).
She was cold resistant.
She was lucky (enhanced through items).
She was able to control teleportation.
She was invisible (enhanced through an item).
She was stun resistant (enhanced through items).
She was paralyzation resistant (enhanced through an item).
She was resistant to death rays (gained through an item).
She was shock resistant.
She was immune to acidic attacks.
She was able to breathe water (gained through an item).
She was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through an item).
She had the following talents: Alert, Beast of Burden, Careful, Defensive
Fighter, Eagle Eye, Good Shot, Keen Shot, Lightning Shot, Long Stride,
Master Packager, Miser, Porter, Potent Aura, Quick, Quick Shot, Stealthy,
Treasure Hunter.
She had a final speed score of 275 (final base speed: 285).
She was a messiah of Ussrachs.
She asked for 7 divine interventions.
She was chaotically aligned.
She was a fallen champion.
She was slightly tainted by Chaos.

[pblack]

holy crap...you train every weapon! you sir, are one very very patient man.

And 15 AoLS... that's unheard of, at least by me. overpowered anyone? =P

good win thou ;)

[grobblewobble]

* Allot more potions of gain attributes (about 80 for me)



Her strength score was modified by +81 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +50 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +78 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +44 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +83 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +89 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +73 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +79 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +39 during her career.


What happened to your le, dex and pe scores? Heavy draining?

[modular]

holy crap...you train every weapon! you sir, are one very very patient man.

I wish lol :D. I used my many wishes for 'better marks'. This was actually quite interesting. Once the skills are above ~10 you sometimes get no increase when wishing. At level 12 it takes many wishes to get an increase. After spending some 30 wishes I still didn't have grand mastery in any weapon skill >_>.


What happened to your le, dex and pe scores? Heavy draining?

The problem with the PoGA was that I could not bless them. The fact that some stats are not at 99 is because of the random stat increase when drinking an uncursed PoGA (I got +str even when str is at 99). Since my stats where pretty amazing I did not feel the need to pickpocket more potions.

[Harwin]

Why not wish for potions of water and bless those?

[modular]

I actually tried that once but a wish for potions gives 3-4? potions of water. To get the potions I needed I would have spend more than 10 out of my 40? wishes for water. I never did the wishing for 'better marks' before, so I wanted to try that rather than getting 99 in every stat. I spend about 25 wishes on that. I could have done the gremlin bomb a bit longer for more wishes but whats the point :P. Having toughness at 99 is the most important in order not to die.

[modular]

I now realize that I should have use a cursed + blessed scroll of repair on the PoGA. LOL I actually had several of those ;P. Oh well it doesn't really matter ^_^.

[Jack the Ripper]

I now realize that I should have use a cursed + blessed scroll of repair on the PoGA. LOL I actually had several of those ;P. Oh well it doesn't really matter ^_^.

A cursed AND a blessed scroll of repair? On the potions of gain attributes? Huh? :confused:

[Epythic]

A cursed AND a blessed scroll of repair? On the potions of gain attributes? Huh? :confused:

Break and fix, which will bless it.

[Anonyone]

I am in awe. How many gremlins did you pickpocket?

[modular]

There is no way to tell really, but it must be in the thousands (lets say very roughly estimated 20.000 turns of pickpocketing, with a certain percentage unsuccessful so anywhere around 12.000 gremlins? Probably allot more.). They keep drowning in the water so they are constantly replaced.

[JellySlayer]

Modular, would you have any problem if I quote some of your results on the effects of the thief class power in the ADOM Wiki (http://ancardia.wikia.com/wiki/ADOM_Wiki)?