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Sradac
04-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Whats the use in it? It dosent use charges form your spell bank, but is there any other use to lugging around heavy spell books? do they cast faster or cost less pp or something?

reich
04-12-2008, 09:51 PM
they don't use up your spell knowldedge. So they are a somewhat useful when you have an important spell you need to save for later. Not terribly useful.

spectre
04-13-2008, 12:16 AM
Most of the time I use bookcasting if I use the spell a lot (and I mean like every couple steps), and increasing effeciveness doesn't do much good. Like teleport or knock for instance.

I use it the most, when spell knowledge runs low on these spells, or when I do not get to much castings from each book read (like, when not playing a dedicated spellcaster), or when I learnt to cast a spell from the wand or potion of Wonder.

Bookcasting takes up up to 4x the casting mana (can be reduced with talents, can also be class dependant), so you can use it to train Mana and Concentration without losing castings.

gut
04-13-2008, 02:23 AM
The ADOM manual states that bookcasting requires
quintuple the amount of PP's, and 3000 energy
points. I believe that with a wizard, the PP
cost is only triple. I think this reduces to
double, upon gaining the 'good book caster'
talent. It reduces once more, to just a 50%
increase in PP cost if you gain the 'great
book caster' talent.

I think the most useful spell to bookcast, is
probably teleport. With the 'great book caster'
talent, you have unlimited teleports available
to you, for little extra cost. This can save
you much corruption, on the lower levels of the
CoC, where the corruption rate is extremely high.

Another nice use of book casting, is for use
on less powerful monsters. When stair hopping
on ID levels 1 and 2 for books, you would hate
to waste casting points, to kill every
individual goblin you encounter.

I also believe that the mana stat recieves a lot of
training, from casting spells that deplete PP's by
large chunks. Book casting is a way to deplete your
PP's by large amounts, even if you don't have
costly spells. Book casting, while traveling through
the wilderness will train the mana stat enormously.

Sradac
04-13-2008, 03:13 AM
valid points, valid points. I know reading spellbooks and scrolls trains Le, does book casting raise Le as well because you're technically reading the book at the time of casting to do the spell?

Grey
04-13-2008, 08:50 AM
Only learning spells from books trains Le. Reading scrolls doesn't train it either.

Doalag
04-13-2008, 09:09 AM
I think that priest also have a lower cost for book casting, probably like wizards, only 3 time the current cost.

Book casting for abusing of the Atlas spell is really cool.

alice
11-12-2010, 06:12 AM
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Jeremiah
11-12-2010, 06:21 AM
After you initially learned a spell, if you don't have the concentration skill leaning it further is kind of pointless, it is much better to book cast.

Jeremiah
11-12-2010, 06:25 AM
The ADOM manual states that bookcasting requires
quintuple the amount of PP's, and 3000 energy
points. I believe that with a wizard, the PP
cost is only triple. I think this reduces to
double, upon gaining the 'good book caster'
talent. It reduces once more, to just a 50%
increase in PP cost if you gain the 'great
book caster' talent.

I think the most useful spell to bookcast, is
probably teleport. With the 'great book caster'
talent, you have unlimited teleports available
to you, for little extra cost. This can save
you much corruption, on the lower levels of the
CoC, where the corruption rate is extremely high.

Another nice use of book casting, is for use
on less powerful monsters. When stair hopping
on ID levels 1 and 2 for books, you would hate
to waste casting points, to kill every
individual goblin you encounter.

I also believe that the mana stat recieves a lot of
training, from casting spells that deplete PP's by
large chunks. Book casting is a way to deplete your
PP's by large amounts, even if you don't have
costly spells. Book casting, while traveling through
the wilderness will train the mana stat enormously.


"I also believe that the mana stat recieves a lot of
training, from casting spells that deplete PP's by
large chunks. Book casting is a way to deplete your
PP's by large amounts, even if you don't have
costly spells. Book casting, while traveling through
the wilderness will train the mana stat enormously."


I use books like that sometimes. You could also use the phial of Caladriel for draining PP.

Jeremiah
11-12-2010, 06:29 AM
I see, this is a necro-bump.

gut
11-12-2010, 06:50 AM
it was a bot bump

Confucio
11-12-2010, 06:58 AM
The only spell i want to book cast is Wish.

ok, maybe teleport with some class with low Le

littlebrather
11-12-2010, 07:37 AM
BC the 'support spells' such as Bless and StroA instead of straight advantage gives near unlimited mana training in a safe place.
BC Darkness is a huge and easy-available power for the Barbs and Beastfs
BC from early book can help rise Concentration for the Elementalist/Druid, who a known to have the terrible modifiers.
for the normal-style (no BUGWIL/ID) caster, BC seems to be a great help at start, so I myself never read my offensive books out.
Also imho while being in uncorrupting dungeon any-lvl wizzi should spend some time reciting his tomes.

Silfir
11-12-2010, 07:57 AM
Elementalists and druids take maybe two levels more to max Concentration. Don't know what everyone's problem is.

littlebrather
11-14-2010, 01:26 AM
standing on leveling Concentration stops these guys from rising some over hot skills like healing/literacy. maybe i played wizards too much and got currupted by their brilliant modificators )

MrNiceguy
11-17-2010, 04:43 AM
BC the 'support spells' such as Bless and StroA instead of straight advantage gives near unlimited mana training in a safe place.

Farsight, too. Plus, multiple castings stack to increase the spell duration. If you spend your time bookcasting those spells every few steps through the wilderness, you'll train Mana and have the spells last a good long time while dungeon diving.