Holy shit! 3-1 ^_^

[yisk]

I am glad, but I have lost 50 dollars! All of us did the rate on a victory of Holland. :D

To justify creation of this theme here, I shall warn Thomas: after a match of Germany with Turkey there will be terrible fights. So it is necessary to be more cautious!
Turks are barbarians. And when they will start to lose, they will play dishonestly. :mad:

[Silfir]

I don't get it. When did Turkey play dishonestly?

If anything, we have to respect their fighting spirit. To turn around not one, but three games in a row despite having been behind is something.

Of course, the Germans practically invented fighting spirit, so there's no way in hell we'll lose. You Russians take out Spain or Italy or whatever so we can kick your asses into the next decade :)

[warheart]

Gotta replay this, because there's no way Russia will kick our spanish asses in semis, they'll get another 4 goals :)

Nah, to be honest, I'm quite impressed with Russia's match yesterday. Arshavin and Pavlyuchenko are both so freaking good, and I hope we can take Italy out today to have a rematch.

In the other hand, I don't think Turkey can do anything against Germany, many important players will miss the match.

[PeanutGod]

Germany should be too strong for Turkey to overcome. People are now saying that we shouldn't count the Turks out, but if there is one thing that has remained a constant in football, it's that the German's ALWAYS do well in the World Cup/Euro Cup.

Besides, I want my half nation to stuff the Turks. After those dodgy matches the Turks had when they started attacking people at half time........they've made me sad to support football at times.

Russia yesterday were awesome. Arsene Wenger should now go and buy Arshavin, since he looks like he's going to be a huge star. And Podolski, who is tearing shit up with the Germans.

Italy vs Spain should be a good match tonight, although I think Italy will win it, since Spain always have the same habits as holland, where they do well, then fail to deliver in the big matches. I hope Spain win, but the head says Italy.

[Grey]

Besides, I want my half nation to stuff the Turks. After those dodgy matches the Turks had when they started attacking people at half time........they've made me sad to support football at times.


An Englishman criticises another country's football fans? Such hypocrisy :P

I'm guessing a Germany vs Italy final, with Germany the eventual victors. But Russia really have impressed me - I hope they do well. Still, Holland weren't playing with their best players, and I think under some serious offence Russia will crack. We'll see soon enough though...

[PeanutGod]

Aye, that whole Switzerland vs Turkey game a few years ago has just stained Turkish football in my eyes. Whilst they play with passion, they do get very zealous over the whole thing, as the violence from the Turkish fans and players showed. And I know English football fans are nuts. Can't condone it, but our players haven't ran down into the tunnel after the match and started a fight. It seems going into Turkey to play is a very frightening prospect.

But let's not get into a race war here. I've got nothing against Turkish people before someone starts throwing ideas around. I just think they need to remain a bit calmer.

Hopefully Germany will win the entire thing, but I think Italy will take the crown. I just see them winning the entire thing by a couple of fluke goals and a lot of defending (which is basically what Italy is all about). I hope to god I'm wrong, I really do, since they're boring as hell to watch.

[Grey]

After the last World Cup I especially don't want Italy to win. And with all the corruption scandals that have been going on in Italian football I really don't think they deserve to either.

[Silfir]

When Italy won against France with Romania losing, I started to get this nagging feeling: "That's it. Now the Italians are going to win." It's still there and it sucks. Go Spain, kick their asses.

I'm glad for your trust, but we Germans are pessimists now, ever since losing to Romania 1:5 or only barely beating the Faroes 2:1 in 2004. 2006 helped a lot, but we won't be able to truly believe in our chance to win this cup until we are in the final, ahead by 2 goals in the 89th minute. And even that's only because we won't be playing the Turks in the final.

Mind you, I'm far from seeing us in the final already. Those Turks are going to be real tough to play against, even if they really have to substitute their third goalkeeper in (I heard they had a jersey made for him). Hopefully we'll secure a high enough lead relatively early (by "high enough" I mean 5 goals at LEAST).

Or we just hold the 0:0 until the last minute (without scoring 1:0 in the 119th minute - that was a dumb move, Croatia ;) ) and then win in the penalty shootout. :p

EDIT: Um, PeanutGod, about that constant of Germany doing well in the ECs... You might check out our results from 2000 and 2004 again. It's true, in the WCs we haven't been taken out in the group stage since 1978 (the "Shame of Cordoba", as it is known). And technically, that wasn't even the first group stage, but the second - We've ALWAYS survived the first group stage in WCs. Not so in the ECs, sadly, that's why a LOT of use were REALLY afraid before the match against Austria.

On the other hand, the last KO-stage match we have lost at an EC was the 1992 final against Denmark. :)

EDIT2: By the by, I think it blows not to have the English in the tournament. Come back in 2010 so we can have ourselves a nice penalty shootout.

[PeanutGod]

I hate Penalty shoot outs between Germany and England. I never know who to support :P

Silfr - True, 2000 + 2004 weren't great times. But on the whole Germany have always been a very solid team who do well, not so much for their massive skill base (although they do have very skillful players) but more for their brilliant cohesiion and team work. I just hope they beat Turkey.

[yisk]

Turks have other belief. And their belief does not speak them to be tolerant. It should be understood.
By the way, in Russian the word "turk" is abusive since ancient times. And I consider, there were reasons for it...

But I do not wish to start racist conversation. Let's look a match. O____O

[meh]

I hate Penalty shoot outs between Germany and England. I never know who to support :P


You should support Germany. That way you won't be disappointed when the inevitable happens.

[Silfir]

Viva Espana!

This is awesome. Now we won't have to deal with those annoying Italians anymore!

Spain deserved it so much...

[PeanutGod]

Oh thank god the Italians are out!

Thoroughly deserved by Spain, since they actually turned up to play the game. I hate the Italians for that. Ok, play on your strengths, but no one wants to watch a side defend for 120 minutes. Bloody italians......MWA HA HA HAA! Now for Spain to beat Russia, and then Germany to beat Spain!

[Grey]

Man, that was brilliant. Especially loved the justice served to Di Natale. Now I can look forward to the semis, hah - was very worried that Italy would win and we'd see two more dull matches like this. Not sure who to support in Russia vs Spain now - they both deserve it. I guess it'll all get decided on the pitch...

Edit: Just remembered, I'm gonna support the Russians because the Spanish are all freaky midgets!

[yisk]

It was a very dull game.

Russia >> Spain
Turkey >> Germain
Russia >> Turkey
Ankardia >> All :D

[Grey]

The Ancardian team would get loads of yellow and red cards until they ate the ref.

[PeanutGod]

As good as Turkey have been, I really can't see them beating Germany. Especially now that Nihat (or however you spell his name) is going to be out. They're too injury stricken, and it should be simple enough for the Germans to secure a victory as long as they play solid and don't do anything rash.

[warheart]

Wow, I'm so happy right now :D

Yeah, we deserved it, italians are soooooo boring to watch. Now the match against Russia will be very tough, but at least it will be a good and exciting match, both always attacking. Let's hope Spain gets to the final :D

[gut]

> italians are soooooo boring to watch

Does that imply that some matches aren't?
That concludes my American comment for the day : )

[PeanutGod]

American....................football.............. .let's not even go there shall we?

[Silfir]

Don't look at ME. I even think CRICKET is interesting.

[warheart]

Don't look at ME. I even think CRICKET is interesting.

Man, that's SO wrong, cricket plain sucks. But well, I like most other sports too.

[Grey]

By the way, in Russian the word "turk" is abusive since ancient times. And I consider, there were reasons for it...


I'm sure the Turks have great names for the Russians ;)

On a plus for the Turks, I'm personally of the opinion that their women have the sexiest accents in the world. That might just be because I've met some very sexy Turkish girls though...

[yisk]

You live in England and know nothing.

Chechens and Turks - the most dangerous people. They grasp to themselves the certain area of the another's country and start to breed there (8-10 children in family). And if Russians consider as dishonor to finish the fallen, your favourite Turks like to hammer to death or to cut off ears.


On a plus for the Turks, I'm personally of the opinion that their women have the sexiest accents in the world. That might just be because I've met some very sexy Turkish girls though...no comments >:\

[yisk]

Let us return to football discussion.

Raw sketch ^_^

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/175/0/6/gogogo_by_yisk.jpg

[theotherhiveking]

Edit: Just remembered, I'm gonna support the Russians because the Spanish are all freaky midgets!

Lies! Lies alihabschgflABKLDHSBliydgs!"!

[Silfir]

Okay, how about we stop the mindless Turk-bashing and talk football?

[yisk]

It is possible to try to kick a fluffy ball in a ChAoS Gate. May be there is a special ending of the ultimate footballist. :D

[theotherhiveking]

It is possible to try to kick a fluffy ball in a ChAoS Gate. May be there is a special ending of the ultimate footballist. :D
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!

[Grey]

That would mean Fisty is the goalkeeper :)

[reich]

alihabschgflABKLDHSBliydgs!"!

you're from Barcelona? :D

[Grey]

I know not all Spanish are midgets (having been to Spain) but the Spanish football team are seriously freaky. I kept trying to adjust the set, figuring there must be something wrong with my display. When watching the game I got horrible flashbacks of bad midget porn...

No, Snow White! Don't sleep in that bed!! Aaaaaaagh!!!!

[reich]

being short is often beneficial in football, sine you are closer to the ball! (not counting head shots);)

[Nezur]

> italians are soooooo boring to watch

Does that imply that some matches aren't?

To my mind ice hockey and F1 races are more interesting than football but I'm no sports fan really.

[yisk]

It is idea. A new class - the football player. =)
I suggest this:

At level 6 they can simulate a death.
At level 12 they get a lot more deadly with a dirty play style.
At level 18 they become immune to whistles.
At level 25 their speed is increased +30 if wearing spiked boots.
At level 32 they can calm down an enemy by giving a red card.
At level 40 they are able to summon 3d3 angry fans.
At level 50 they can set timeout and temporarily stop the background corruption.



F1 is too boring imho...

[gut]

gut's sport 'excite-ometer' on a scale of 1 - 10

Soccer...............4
Football..............5
Hockey...............2
Basketball...........6
Horse racing........4
any other racing...2
Boxing................5
MMA..................9
K1 kickboxing.......6
World's Strongest
Man competition...4
Golf....................1
Tennis................4
Baseball..............2
most X games......4

[Grey]

Formula 1 is brilliant, but have to have other stuff to do whilst watching it. It's not the sort of sport to keep you glued to your set throughout the race (though some races do manage that).

[yisk]

gut
Hmm... your "football" = rugby and "soccer" = football?

[Grey]

By football he means American football, that rather odd game they play over in the capital of capitalism. It's not too bad a game to watch actually, though I don't like how they keep stopping and starting.

[Silfir]

It's called American Football because no one outside the United States cares about it.

Feet only play a background role in it anyway because they can just carry the ball and throw it with their hands...

[Nezur]

The term "football" may actually derive from the fact that the game has been played on foot. In medieval Europe aristocrats played often horse-riding sports unlike peasants.

[gut]

> Hmm... your "football" = rugby and "soccer" = football?

What in the world is rugby? *joking* : )

[yisk]

It's local name of the American football. I dont know what this word means originally.

[vogonpoet]

Can we haz Russia in the final plz?

I thought the way they dissected the Dutch was just delicious.

[Silfir]

I'd rather have Spain in the final. I think our chances to beat them are higher...

[PeanutGod]

Ha, I lived and went to school in Rugby (Good old William Webb Ellis). Don't like the sport, but at least I can say I've got a link somewhere.

Football is the ultimate. Lets have none of this soccer rubbish. Football deals with feet. American football should be called handball. Or better yet 'Wimps Rugby'. Take the padding off and fight like men :D

[Evil Knievel]

I like this thread ;). So I throw some salty grains into the stew: Will Russia win, because the EU wants them so? They played well, but... Netherlands did such a fucking bad job... There were periods of >30 mins without having opportunities. Possibly, they think it to be some sort of appeasement for political reasons, like Europe's dependency on Russia's energy.
The game tomorrow could end up in a civil war. Luckily, there are no guns around. I am so curious about where this instable situation will lead - and I hope for a positive surprise ;-)

Btw, as my bet: Spain will do it. (Or Russia - let's analyze the playing style of their opponents with a third eye)

[Silfir]

What has the EU to do with this? Now now, we have perfectly reasonable American Football-bashing here, don't want any boring conspiracy theories replacing that.

And civil war - I do hope the Turkish majority in Germany won't take it the wrong way when our guys blast them to smithereens...

[yisk]

Will Russia win, because the EU wants them so?

LoL. No. In Ukraine during that game the TV agitated " better to be the country of NATO as the Netherlands (hinting, that the Netherlands will necessarily win) ".

[Evil Knievel]

Hehe, it was not a kind of "reasonable theory", just a thought, that one should spread, before things end that way. I don't like conspiracies myself, but football bashing is something I can't take part either.

[vogonpoet]

Dude, its not like Eurovision - its like the internet - its a serious business. May the best team win.

I too think Germany have a better chance of overall victory if Spain make the final. Spain would have a better chance to win if Turkey made the final. Hence my desire to see Russia and Germany in the final.

[yisk]

I don't like Eurovision and especially D!ma Beelan... this "sweet boy". His songs are so stupid, that he hesitates of singing them in Russian. And he does not know English and probably looks like twit for foreigners.

Its not patriotically, but I hope that Spain will defeat Russia. I already fed up with violently behaving crowds of fans. Because of the football success too many people perish from poor-quality alcohol, on streets and under cars on roads. Silly mirth.

[Grey]

Wow, Turkey ahead... Germany defense is a shambles at the moment though and Turkey are really pressing them.

Edit: Yikes, I spoke too soon... This should become a very interesting match.

[PeanutGod]

Come On You Germans!

We're In The Final! Ooohhh Ahhh!

[Grey]

Lucky bastards, heh. I now support whoever wins of Spain/Russia in the final :P

[Silfir]

Woooooooo Hooooooooo Hell Yesssss!!!!

Shut The Fuck Up Grey This Is Awesome We're Gonna Win This Thing

[PeanutGod]

LMAO

Well said Silfr.


Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles,

[yisk]

http://novosibirsk.rfn.ru/rnews.html?id=56615&cid=7

In short, in russian village Bolotnoe (Swamp Hiil) the baby has been named as the trainer of a football team Guus Hiddink. Sociologists are afraid, that it will turn to epidemic.

It would be funny, if was not so sadly. This name sounds silly for Russian ears (word "Guus" looks like "goose" in our language). The hard childhood for all "geese" is guaranteed.

Spain should calm our fans. =/

[Evil Knievel]

Uhh great, I just biked through the turk-german football party - no civil war, just party - great, and that although Turkey would not have stolen victory at all. Most went home, and other celebrated together, I am really astonished. It is a good thing Turkish football fans aren't that kind of heavy drinkers like the Germans are.

[Silfir]

PeanutGod... We don't sing that anymore, remember?

Back on topic. The Turks were *this* close to kicking our asses. In the end we let them have a taste of their own medicine - a last-second lead. This German team has fighting spirit to spare!

We will become Europameister! Woo hoo!

(I will be my normal pessimistic self once I got some sleep, don't worry)

EDIT: I sure hope we won't get a generation of "Jogi"s...

[PeanutGod]

Silfr - We should be singing that! I'm not totally aware of all the reasons why we can't, I'm presuming the war and all that. But isn't it just that the translation comes across wrong. They don't mean Germany above all (everyone), but rather Germany before all the other things in their lives. Not sure.....I don't see there being a major problem with it.

As for Turkey - congrats to them is due I think. They played a good tournament, suprised everyone including themselves and the players will now be eyed up by everyone. Glad they didn't win, but happy that they got to the semis.

[Evil Knievel]

@peanutgod - it's not because of those lines (which are a little problematic themselves but well..). It's about the following lines which define very old territorial boundaries that are far outside of current Germany (and very far from any German speaking persons - see map in link).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied

[Silfir]

The thing is that "Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles" is usually only sung by neonazis these days. Yes, the song is much older than the Third Reich, but to people in Germany today it is tainted with its legacy. That's it, really, at least in my eyes. I think we should at least start singing the second stanza again, because it rocks. German women, German wine and German song are awesome! Okay, scratch the "song" - our show at the Eurovision Song Contest was pathetic.

[Grey]

Surprised at how poorly Russia performed, I must say. Still, Spain really were beautiful watch - will be great to see them against Germany. Lots of speed, lots of creative passes, and some great set-ups by Fabregas (arguably the best player in the tournament - my youngest brother, a keen Arsenal fan, certainly thinks so). I think they have an extremely high chance to win.

[yisk]

prosrali s treskom! xD

[warheart]

Surprised at how poorly Russia performed, I must say. Still, Spain really were beautiful watch - will be great to see them against Germany. Lots of speed, lots of creative passes, and some great set-ups by Fabregas (arguably the best player in the tournament - my youngest brother, a keen Arsenal fan, certainly thinks so). I think they have an extremely high chance to win.


The thing is that Spain didn't let Russia play, like other teams did. We played a wonderful match today, hoping to see this great play in the final as well :)

[Nezur]

Hmm. A thread with 50+ posts about football at an ADoM forum.

Maybe we do need the off-topic subforum. ;)

[Silfir]

It's the European Championships. You won't have this kind of thread for two more years after they're over...

[vogonpoet]

Nezur, if it makes you feel any better, I have a female PC at the moment in possession of a Golden Ball. I shall put it on the dungeoun floor and kick it into a corridor past the next G I see, thus bringing much needed ADOM relevance to the thread.

So, non german non spanish thread followers - who are we supporting?

[gut]

I am hesitant to openly declare my support for either team.
My cheering often tends to be a cursing : ) I suppose I
will support Germany. No relevant reason though, as I care
little for soccer in general.

[Grey]

With no connection to either team I will be supporting Spain. In spite of being freaky midgets they are brilliant to watch, and I think they'll put up a much better fight than Germany.

[yisk]

All is equal for me. I cannot show on a map, where is Germany, and where is Spain. )

[Grey]

It is done! A very well-deserved victory for Spain - just surprised it was only 1-0. They were just beautiful to watch - lots of passing, lots of inventive play, constant switching of tactics, etc. They were like the Argentina of Europe...

[PeanutGod]

Aye, it was a very good victory for them, and I can't find a single reason to give for why Germany should have won it. Their defence has been terrible throughout the entire tournament, completely getting in each others way and making a hash of even the most simplest of tasks. At the end, the team that actually deserved to win, did just that. Kudos to the Spaniards.

[Silfir]

Well, you are right. What can I say? Spain deserved it. And much better for them to win than *gag* Italy!