-foo- of Slaying

[Baranor]

Are these just uber missles and slay everything?

Basically missles of humanoid, dragon, demon, construct, jelly and undead slaying all in one!?

[DeSt]

Yes. Uber if Penetrating too.

[Baranor]

What exactly does "of slaying" or "of -foo- slaying" mean? Does it mean hella damage with each hit? Does it mean instakill once hit?

[Siriah]

They cause a lot of damage, but they don't instakill everything. According to the greater identify on missiles of slaying, 'all their hits are critical hits', which seems accurate.

[Grey]

Which means they'll cause x2, x3, x4 or x5 damage. This also stacks with the +50% damage against undead and demons from blessed weapons. Pretty damned tasty by all accounts...

[Nezur]

Those multipliers are used when determining random missile critical hits. Slaying missiles cause 3x, 4x 5x or 6x damage.

[Silfir]

C'mon people, can't we just stick to "Slaying missiles slay whatever they say they slay pretty damn dead" instead of arguing about numbers?

(Joking, what would we ever do on this board if we couldn't argue about numbers...)

[Baranor]

Dude, slaying missiles are basically like cheating.

I'm playing an archer right now, and I'm taking on the Ancient Stone Beast.

Normal Arrows: 7 x Slightly damaged.

Slaying Arrows: Moderately, Missed, Severely, Dead.

What? That's just plain stoopid.

[Silfir]

Archers with slaying ammo are hardcore. That said, with enormous weapon skill, any class is hardcore with slaying ammo. Archery is pretty overpowered in ADOM.

Thankfully there's only limited amounts of slaying ammo in the game.

[gut]

Baranor:
> Dude, slaying missiles are basically like cheating.
> I'm playing an archer right now, and I'm taking on the Ancient Stone Beast.
> Normal Arrows: 7 x Slightly damaged.
> Slaying Arrows: Moderately, Missed, Severely, Dead.
> What? That's just plain stoopid

The ASB has high PV. You were probably dealing a respectable ~80 points of
damage with each standard missile, but only ~20 points were actually getting
through. When you use slaying ammo, the multipliers make high monster PV
worthless, and that's really the only thing the ASB has going for it.

[Baranor]

That still doesn't prevent me from thinking that it's cheating. Holy crap. I had never played with slaying ammo before. It almost cheapens the win. It's just so hardcore.

[Silfir]

People usually don't complain when ADOM is unbalanced in their favor ;)

[gut]

For a genuine archer, the slaying ammo is like cheating, but for classes
that hardly train missiles, they won't blow you're mind. Sometimes, the
only way you can get a missile strike through on some monsters, is with
slaying ammo. Even then its not for the purpose of outright damage, but
just to get some poison in the goon. The Archmage comes to mind.