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    Default Drakish Barbarian killed Mimic Hivemind after killing Chaos Archmage and crushed.

    WAAAAA. I forgot to switch my amulet from amulet of light to amulet of free action. Hivemind killed me in like 5 hits. AFTER killing the C-Archmage for like the 5th time ever. Did I mention that I had bracers of war?

    I just cant win with a barbarian. I don't have a screen shot of the above I was too sad. I do however have a screen shot of when I was crushed trying to use corpses to boost my strength to crazy levels on a previous drakish barbarian. Who also had bracers of war.

    ARG.

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    Salri St: 2 Le:16 Wi:28 Dx:34 To:34 Ch:15 Ap:11 Ma:12 Pe:18 N=
    DV/PV: 48/56 H: 0(458) P: 89(89) Exp: 26/3606546 D: 41 Sp: 45
    Blessed Crushed! Berserk
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    Name: Salri Race: male Drakeling Class: Barbarian
    Eye color: amber Hair color: bald Complexion: blue
    Height: 5'8" Weight: 169 pounds
    Age: 31 (grown-up, 5 years of unnatural aging added in)
    Star sign: Raven Birthday: 12/Raven (day 12 of the year)

    YOUR HISTORY:
    Your father was an accomplished hunter and warrior. You were
    well-respected and comparatively wealthy.
    As a child you were very active and imitated the hunters and
    warriors of your tribe at all opportunities.
    During your youth you traveled to nearby tribes and traded with
    them. You met many strangers and learned a lot about the outside world.
    As a young adult you more and more separated from the more
    traditional members of your tribe. Your desire to see the outside world
    became overwhelming.
    At the age of 26 you left your tribe.


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    Inventory
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    Total weight: 5529 stones Carrying capacity: 880 stones

    Head : uncursed eternium cap [+0, +4] [28s]
    Neck : uncursed amulet of protection +2 [3s]
    Body : uncursed red dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +13] [220s]
    Girdle : blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
    Cloak : uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +5] [20s]
    Right Hand : -
    Left Hand : uncursed medium obsidian shield "Protector" [+20, +4] {To+2}
    Right Ring : cursed ring of weakness [1s]
    Left Ring : uncursed ring of slaying (+9 melee damage, +6 missile damage)
    Bracers : uncursed bracers of war [+8, +4] {Dx+8} [10s]
    Gauntlets : -
    Boots : blessed adamantium boots [+0, +3] [89s]
    Missile weapon: uncursed long bow of hunting (+6, +3) [30s]
    Missiles : bundle of 4 uncursed mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [8s]
    Tool : -


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    Total weight: 5058 stones Carrying capacity: 880 stones

    Helmets ('[')
    uncursed adamantium cap [+0, +2] [36s]
    uncursed crown of science [+4, +8] {Le+9} [65s]
    Armor ('[')
    uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
    uncursed blue dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +10] [200s]
    uncursed white dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [-2, +12] [200s]
    uncursed charged elven chain mail [+0, +5] [10s]
    Shields ('[')
    cursed medium crystal shield [+9, +4] [160s]
    Gauntlets ('[')
    uncursed red dragon-hide gauntlets (-2, +0) [+0, +2] [10s]
    uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
    uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
    cursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
    Cloaks ('[')
    uncursed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+1, +1] [30s]
    Girdles ('[')
    uncursed adamantium girdle [+0, +3] [18s]
    uncursed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
    uncursed mithril girdle [+0, +2] [20s]
    uncursed girdle of greed [+2, +0] [7s]
    blessed girdle of strength [+0, +0] {St+4} [15s]
    Boots ('[')
    uncursed light boots [+2, +0] [20s]
    Necklaces (''')
    uncursed ankh [3s]
    cursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
    uncursed amulet of petrification resistance [3s]
    uncursed amulet of defense +2 [3s]
    cursed amulet of greed [3s]
    uncursed amulet of protection +2 [3s]
    uncursed necklace of the silver tongue {Ch+3} [2s]
    uncursed amulet of protection from undead [3s]
    uncursed amulet of greed [3s]
    cursed amulet of light [3s]
    uncursed necklace of the eye [3s]
    Bracers (',')
    uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4} [10s]
    One-handed weapons ('(')
    uncursed jet-black battle axe "Executor" (+2, 5d6+6) [-4, +1] {St+3} (+3 spd)
    blessed rune-covered club "Skullcrusher" (+12, 3d6+2) [-3, +0] {St+4}
    blessed phase dagger (+0, 1d4+5) [5s]
    uncursed stone spear (+3, 1d8) [120s]
    uncursed mithril spear (-2, 1d8+6) [40s]
    uncursed eternium dagger (+0, 2d4+7) [5s]
    uncursed dwarven pick axe "Hammerhead" (+2, 2d10+4) [+2, +2] {To+3}[90s]
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrnyx View Post
    WAAAAA. I forgot to switch my amulet from amulet of light to amulet of free action. Hivemind killed me in like 5 hits. AFTER killing the C-Archmage for like the 5th time ever. Did I mention that I had bracers of war?
    What was in your tool slot? You can also use torches (sacrificing the stat boost from Chaos orbs most people will usually have equipped there) to work around the Archmage's darkness.

    I just cant win with a barbarian. I don't have a screen shot of the above I was too sad. I do however have a screen shot of when I was crushed trying to use corpses to boost my strength to crazy levels on a previous drakish barbarian. Who also had bracers of war.
    That's why I don't use rings of weakness. Getting many stat gains with those is boring, takes a lot of time, and opens the door to such YASDs. Kicking walls with a cursed RoW is also a very bad idea. The one time I tried this method (to measure its effectiveness by myself), I forgot I had the ring on when I kicked a wall to move on D:49.

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    Speak for yourself. I would probably die a double death of boredom and lameness.
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    Well, ring of weakness involves no risk if you just use it in a safe place like the wilderness. Admittedly boring and lame, but also effective and safe.
    It doesn't take much real life time, either, if you set the parameters right (make every w5 last 2000 turns or something). It does take a lot of game time, so not exactly something to do in a speed run.

    A less boring, but more dangerous way is to wear it while mining for stone giant corpses or maybe even while slaying a giant vault..

    But using it during your main quests like the mana temple or just running around the deep CoC is.. counterproductive. That's not the time you want to train anything, that's the time you want to boost your strength as much as you can.
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    These were actually two instances. The first was because I forgot that I needed to take off my amulet of light because I didn't have para resist. The other one where I was gaining strength from corpses and was crushed was right after I had cleared my second giant vault. The reason I was crushed was actually because after gathering them into a pile I had picked up one too many corpses. I did not do the mana temple with a ring of weakness. I'm dumb but not that dumb.
    Last edited by Tyrnyx; 03-19-2012 at 04:49 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon123 View Post
    That's why I don't use rings of weakness. Getting many stat gains with those is boring, takes a lot of time, and opens the door to such YASDs. Kicking walls with a cursed RoW is also a very bad idea. The one time I tried this method (to measure its effectiveness by myself), I forgot I had the ring on when I kicked a wall to move on D:49.
    If you bless your RoW, it only decreases your St to about 6, IIRC. Eliminates the wall-kick death bug. Doesn't really affect the training all that much either.

    @OP: What was your DV/PV like? I'm surprised that a mimic hivemind could hit you at that point in the game.
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    I was wielding grod with [-8,0] but had BoW [+8,+4] however I was on berserk status because I had just killed the archmage. All together my DV was pretty trash. My gear wasn't crazy good so I think I had something like [25/35]. Something along those lines. I remember looking at it and being underwhelmed. I was pretty worried that it wouldn't be sufficient for the temple but I that I managed to get through that pretty easily. It helped that I didn't get trap detection which caused me to set off the fire traps (although I could have easily shift-ted) plus an earlier vault of fire beings had my speed up at around 170. A few poisoned penetrating arrows and two or three good smacks and he was dead and he came out pretty early so I didn't have to wade through uber-Chaos warriors. I guess I should have been wearing my ring of immunity and ring of high kings for the [+5,+5] and [+2,+3] but I forgot and was wearing my rings of slaying.

    I could have easily switched to my amulet of free action, I did that earlier when a greater mimic came through the tunnel as I was fighting chaos warriors, but I was just on a high from killing the archmage that I didn't really pay attention - thats the thing about ADOM i guess, can't let your guard down for a second. Stupid. Thats the third of my should-have-wins that have died to mimics - two others in the casino. para-resistence is just something I forget about since (I guess) on my wins I've gotten it from pools or had artifacts that the intrinsic.
    Last edited by Tyrnyx; 03-19-2012 at 04:51 PM.

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    Sorry for misreading, Tyrnyx.

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