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Drop the anvil and sack the gold to get to unburdened status before doing ToEF. Nether Bolt should make short work of the ACW (and most other inhabitants of the temple). Dipping the potions of invisibility into your unholy water will curse them. They can be used to blind the ACW then for safety.
Treasure Hunter is an absolutely immoral talent and people who take it are slaves of their lust for loot. A real character doesn't rely on worldly goodies to save the world but will do so by trusting his inner strength.
Ancient Member
We can't really help much if you don't post examples of the stupid things that get you killed. Your stats and items are easily ToEF-suitable, and beyond.
It might be that simply posting in this thread is going to make you play more carefully, in which case we should be seeing a YAVP soon!
No pressure, though.
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I would retrieve the water orb at this point. Instant emergency healing helps so much and +10 willpower is good too.
You steal a scroll labelled HITME. The orc hits you.
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Wow, those are significant improvements over the last post. Preserver was found in the water dragon's hoard, I presume?
Also, if you use the code or HTML tags, logs will be displayed with a monospaced font and thus look better.
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"And light there be!"
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@ Silfir,
A lot of my stupid deaths are from not being carefull enough. or being underprepared. or "of course I can kill that ancient Blue dragon in melee". or from becoming doomed. sometimes from casting the wrong bolt spell at a wall by accident.
or from continuing to fight for "just one more round of melee" instead of teleporting to safety. stepping too close to the
edge of the darkness while robbing the water dragon. And I have been playing for so long without winning that intimidation
is a factor I think.
or my personal favorite "You can't move. message. message. message. (more). message. message. message. (more)
message. message. message. You die."
I do think that posting this thread will cause me to be a lot more careful and and try to prepare better. and maybe even
get some good Advice about things I normally would not think of or don't know about..
this time I have a lot more determination... his name is, after all, "TheWin".
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@ anon,
yes from the dragon cave.
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OK, just got back from the ToEF. went something like this:
frost bolt,frost bolt,frost bolt,frost bolt,frost bolt.
still no AoLS and I would much rather save Khelly's life
so maybe I will make a trip to the HMV to kill some time.
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Character Information
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TheWin St:22 Le:33 Wi:25 Dx:30 To:24 Ch:20 Ap:18 Ma:30 Pe:16 N=
DV/PV: 67/35 H: 282(282) P: 222(312) Exp: 28/2116572 M: 65320
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Background Information
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Name: TheWin Race: male Gnome Class: Priest
Age: 107 (grown-up)
Star sign: Cup Birthday: 11/Cup (day 251 of the year)
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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Daggers & knives 8 +7 +4 +2 excellent 644
Pole arms 9 +9 +5 +10 excellent 387
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Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
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Crossbows 3 +6 +4 +1 basic 27
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Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 6 +12 skilled 114
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Effects of Corruption
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Your close attunement to corrupted astral space allows teleportation.
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Inventory
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Total weight: 1181 stones Carrying capacity: 2700 stones
Head : blessed eternium cap [+5, +4] [28s]
Neck : blessed sapphire amulet "Preserver" [+4, +4] {Wi+7} [3s]
Body : blessed Shirt of the Saints [+8, +4] {Le+2} [20s]
Girdle : blessed adamantium girdle [+0, +3] [18s]
Cloak : blessed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s]
Right Hand : blessed rustproof spear of penetration (+4, 1d8+6) [50s]
Left Hand : blessed medium eternium shield (+3) [+9, +3] [46s]
Right Ring : blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
Left Ring : blessed ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd) [1s]
Bracers : blessed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+6} [10s]
Gauntlets : blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +3] [30s]
Missile weapon: blessed light crossbow of accuracy (+8, +0) [70s]
Missiles : bundle of 6 blessed mithril quarrels (+1, 2d6) [12s]
Tool : -
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Stuff
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Total weight: 862 stones Carrying capacity: 2700 stones
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
Girdles ('[')
blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Necklaces (''')
blessed amulet of balance [3s]
uncursed amulet of petrification resistance [3s]
blessed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
uncursed amulet of free action [3s]
uncursed amulet of order [3s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
blessed rustproof dagger of death (+6, 5d5+3) [10s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 24 uncursed quarrels of construct slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [96s]
bundle of 4 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+5) [16s]
bundle of 12 uncursed quarrels of giant slaying (+3, 2d8+4) [48s]
bundle of 9 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [36s]
Tools (']')
heap of 2 uncursed fireproof blankets [20s]
uncursed square key [1s]
uncursed triangular key [1s]
uncursed tiny key [1s]
uncursed waterproof blanket [10s]
uncursed round key [1s]
uncursed hexagonal key [1s]
uncursed small key [1s]
Rings ('=')
blessed ring of acid resistance [1s]
uncursed ring of invisibility [1s]
Wands ('\')
blessed wand of fireballs (8 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of teleportation (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of cold (12 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of digging (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (8 charges) [3s]
Potions ('!')
heap of 6 cursed potions of invisibility [24s]
potion of holy water [4s]
heap of 5 blessed potions of extra healing [10s]
blessed potion of carrot juice [4s]
Scrolls ('?')
blessed scroll of identify [2s]
Food ('%')
heap of 14 blessed cooked lizards [42s]
heap of 22 blessed pepper petals [44s]
heap of 5 uncursed stomafillia herbs [10s]
heap of 4 uncursed iron rations [400s]
blessed stomacemptia herb [2s]
heap of 3 blessed stomafillia herbs [6s]
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Killed Monsters
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The following monsters were vanquished:
1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm,1 black druid,
1 black unicorn,2 chaos warlords,
1 diamond golem,1 greater daemon,
1 skeletal king,1 undead chaos dwarven berserker,
1 wild cat,1 master necromancer.
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Achievements
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He was the champion of the arena.
He was a member of the thieves guild.
He made a little water dragon very happy.
He Killed Keethrax.
He found a (dead) lost puppy.
He completed quests for an old dwarf.
He put BloodAxe to rest.
He was crowned a champion of balance.
He raided dark forge.
He stole treasure from a water dragon.
He put an end to an Ancient Chaos Wyrm and retrieved the Chaos Orb of fire.
He retrieved the ring of high kings.
He is STILL ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ancient Member
If you really want that AoLS and have good piety with your god (very close or above), you can try draining Darkforge's pools, in hopes of getting a wish. Reach for an altar and sacrifice 1gp if you get doomed. Maybe even dig great treasure graves in the Griffyard, swapping to your blessed amulet of balance before the deed so that the alignment impact is much smaller. Both proposals have their own risks.
"And light there be!"
Member
OK, still alive, could not find AoLS (by the time I read anons advice Khelly was already dead)
so I decided to head down anyway.. while
at the high mountain village Hawkslayer seemed to think he could remember me
from somewhere and decided to fight by my side just like old times. No sense in
telling him we have literally never done that, so I took him with. I leveled him up
a bit on the way down to the water temple. once there I swam across and firebolted
everything in sight. used darkness on the snake from beyond and then just firebolted
him as he tried to flee. was a fairly easy victory. when I swam back across the water
Hawkslayer decided to change his mind about us being old friends and began running
towards me in a blind rage. this was not a good idea on his part. another easy victory.
with Hawkslayer no longer in tow I took the snake corpse to the druid and traded for
a potion of cure corruption, then headed back down. I made a stop at the Ogre cave where
I store my stuff and organized my inventory. then headed down found the banshee and killed
her. further down ran in to a gaurdian who let me pass. continued down until D30 where I
stumbled upon my good friend Hendranatt the orcish shopkeeper of awesomeness. who gave
me a good deal on a stack of 2 rings of djinni summoning. I was more than happy to spend
some time with the guy when I discovered how lonely he was.
So here I am with two orbs in my pack on D:30. I have never before made it this far,
and I am not sure what to expect.. I have no Idea what is below me. I do know there is
more temples. and a cat lord (who is angry because I killed some cats). and that somewhere
at the bottom there is a gate that needs closing.. But I do not know in what order these
things are in. (if I go deeper down will the next thing I find be a casino, a temple, or
a cat lord? I am not sure.) I do not know if I am a high enough level or if my gear is strong
enough.
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I WILL CONSULT WITH GOOGLE BEFORE CONTINUING FORTH.
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Character Information
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TheWin St:22 Le:34 Wi:27 Dx:28 To:24 Ch:21 Ap:16 Ma:30 Pe:16 N=
DV/PV: 67/34 H: 293(293) P: 322(322) Exp: 29/2676395 M: 89485
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Background Information
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Name: TheWin Race: male Gnome Class: Priest
Star sign: Cup Birthday: 11/Cup (day 251 of the year)
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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Daggers & knives 8 +7 +4 +2 excellent 445
Pole arms 10 +10 +6 +12 excellent 1390
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Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
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Crossbows 4 +8 +6 +1 skilled 50
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Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 6 +12 skilled 113
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Effects of Corruption
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Your close attunement to corrupted astral space allows teleportation.
You have grown thorns (3d3 melee damage, Dx: -2, Ap: -3).
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Inventory
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Total weight: 2280 stones Carrying capacity: 2700 stones
Head : blessed eternium cap [+5, +4] [28s]
Neck : blessed amulet of balance [3s]
Body : blessed Shirt of the Saints [+8, +4] {Le+2} [20s]
Girdle : blessed adamantium girdle [+0, +3] [18s]
Cloak : uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +6] [20s]
Right Hand : blessed rustproof spear of penetration (+5, 1d8+7) [50s]
Left Hand : blessed medium eternium shield (+3) [+9, +3] [46s]
Right Ring : blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
Left Ring : blessed ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd) [1s]
Bracers : uncursed bracers of defense [+4, +0] [10s]
Gauntlets : blessed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +3] [30s]
Missile weapon: uncursed heavy crossbow of accuracy (+9, +3) [140s]
Missiles : bundle of 29 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6) [58s]
Tool : heap of 4 uncursed spenseweeds [8s]
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Stuff
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Total weight: 1837 stones Carrying capacity: 2700 stones
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
Girdles ('[')
blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed amulet of petrification resistance [3s]
blessed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
uncursed amulet of free action [3s]
blessed sapphire amulet "Preserver" [+4, +4] {Wi+7} [3s]
uncursed amulet of order [3s]
uncursed amulet of protection from constructs [3s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
blessed rustproof dagger of death (+6, 5d5+3) [10s]
blessed phase dagger (-2, 1d4) [5s]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed short bow of accuracy (+6, +0) [20s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 12 uncursed quarrels of giant slaying (+3, 2d8+4) [48s]
bundle of 7 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [28s]
bundle of 8 uncursed quarrels of demon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [32s]
bundle of 8 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [16s]
bundle of 5 blessed mithril quarrels (+1, 2d6+3) [10s]
bundle of 7 blessed quarrels of dragon slaying (+3, 2d6) [28s]
Tools (']')
heap of 2 uncursed fireproof blankets [20s]
uncursed square key [1s]
uncursed triangular key [1s]
uncursed tiny key [1s]
uncursed waterproof blanket [10s]
uncursed round key [1s]
uncursed hexagonal key [1s]
uncursed small key [1s]
uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10} [100s]
uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10} [100s]
uncursed magical writing set (5) [5s]
Instruments ('{')
uncursed tamborine [5s]
Rings ('=')
blessed ring of acid resistance [1s]
heap of 2 uncursed rings of invisibility [2s]
heap of 2 blessed rings of djinni summoning [2s]
uncursed ring of elemental mastery [+0, +0] [1s]
uncursed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
cursed ring of regeneration [1s]
Wands ('\')
blessed wand of fireballs (8 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of teleportation (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of fire (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of cold (12 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of digging (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of far slaying (10 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of poison (9 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster detection (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (6 charges) [3s]
cursed rusty wand of lightning (2 charges) [4s]
Potions ('!')
heap of 6 cursed potions of invisibility [24s]
heap of 2 potions of holy water [8s]
uncursed potion of confusion [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of ultra healing [4s]
heap of 5 blessed potions of extra healing [10s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of booze [16s]
blessed potion of poison [4s]
blessed potion of cure corruption [2s]
uncursed potion of longevity [4s]
uncursed potion of boost mana [2s]
uncursed potion of boost appearance [2s]
uncursed potion of learning [4s]
blessed potion of booze [4s]
uncursed potion of boost toughness [2s]
uncursed potion of beauty [4s]
cursed potion of boost appearance [2s]
uncursed potion of water [4s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of item detection [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of great identify [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of magic mapping [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of charging [4s]
blessed scroll of identify [2s]
uncursed scroll of power [2s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of identify [6s]
uncursed scroll of protection [2s]
Food ('%')
heap of 14 blessed cooked lizards [42s]
heap of 33 blessed pepper petals [66s]
heap of 10 uncursed stomafillia herbs [20s]
heap of 3 blessed stomacemptia herbs [6s]
heap of 6 blessed stomafillia herbs [12s]
heap of 14 uncursed pepper petals [28s]
heap of 36 blessed morgia roots [72s]
Valuables ('$')
91615 gold pieces [916s]
Gems ('*')
uncursed crystal of knowledge [1s]
blessed crystal of knowledge [1s]
uncursed turquoise [1s]
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I HAVE A LOT MORE STUFF STASHED IN THE OGRE CAVE
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Killed Monsters
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3581 monsters perished under his attacks.
The following monsters were vanquished:
1 ancient blue dragon, 1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm
1 banshee, 1 black druid
1 black unicorn, 1 burly adventurer
1 cave lion, 3 chaos warlords
1 chaos wizard, 1 master necromancer
1 mimic hivemind, 1 skeletal king
1 Snake from Beyond, 1 stone giant lord
1 undead chaos dwarven berserker
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Achievements
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still alive!!!!
Ancient Member
You are strong enough, don't worry. Watch out for the Banshee level. After that you'll find the eternal guardian and then the casino. After that comes the cat lord - he is the most serious threat you will face for the rest of the game.
p.s. You might want to switch the amulet of balance for preserver.The orb of elemental water or fire are both very good to equip too, they have great stat boni.
Last edited by grobblewobble; 12-20-2012 at 07:24 AM.
You steal a scroll labelled HITME. The orc hits you.
Ancient Member
Any reason you are still using that spear as everyday weapon? Someone had drawn a comic about polearms.
You have some tough stuff in the backpack like eternium long sword of mayhem. And when your spear gets annihilated by an acid trap and you suddenly don't have a replacement and 0 skill in swords, you gonna have a bad time (insert South Park guy here).
And please, dagger of death is pure junk.
Also, I'd switch the following items:
ring of speed -> regen/slaying
probably High Kings -> regen/slaying
Wish for Find Weakness may be in order.
Do you use amulet of balance on regular basis? If yes, equip that Preserver and don't put it off unless you want to kill some good guys.
Get Fire Orb for damage output or Water Orb for increased ball spell radius (36+).
I like my women like my ADOM loot - hunted as treasure and in extra quantity.
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