Hello.

[Whippy]

Aspiring hero here wishing he knew how to properly play ADOM

My favorite Race is the High Elves and my two favorite classes are Wizard and Paladin.

I've been playing ADOM on and off now for about 2 years and I've only just started to learn how things work in the game. Currently, I have been playing for around 6 months non stop every chance I get. It is a great game and it is easily one of my favorites even though I can't seem to get past a level 12 character and always seem to die by some stupid ways.

I am slowly learning and been reading some posts on this forum and I have now realized that this isn't going to be an over night job!

Looking forward to sharing some stupid deaths and (eventually) a victory post or two

Whippy.

[Blasphemous]

Welcome to the community, Whippy.
I've been playing adom for close to 15 years and I keep dying stupid deaths all the time, among the few precious victories.
Get used to it
The forum is a nice place to have a discussion about anything game-related so be sure to ask whatever questions you have.
Also consider playing on the server and signing up to our unofficial irc #adom channel. There's usually somebody there that will gladly spectate as you play and perhaps throw in a hint or two.

[GordonOverkill]

Hi Whippy! Welcome to the board and good luck on your adventures!

[Stingray1]

Welcome. It does take some time indeed for an unspoiled player to get past level 12 with an ADOM character, but keep at it. It will happen. Don't read too many spoilers though, for me it was great fun to figure out the game by myself and discover what items do and so on. It took me only between 2-3 years to get my first win and there are people playing 3+ times longer than that without a win that has read a lot of spoilers.

So, my suggestion to all members is: don't spoil it for yourself. Have fun.

[Esoteric Rogue]

I've been playing since pre-wilderness, on and off, without a win. I think the first 12 years without spoilers was a waste . I hope to win someday, too. Good luck and well met, Whippy.

[Stingray1]

I stumbled onto one of your recent videos and I agree that the 12 years was a waste for you, but luckily the 3 years it took me was definately not. You are doing a lot of things wrong for a veteran and I know what the reason is.

[Esoteric Rogue]

I stumbled onto one of your recent videos and I agree that the 12 years was a waste for you, but luckily the 3 years it took me was definately not. You are doing a lot of things wrong for a veteran and I know what the reason is.

Well, all I know is every time I take a year or two off I apparently forget everything -- starting with basics like it once again surprised me that there are talents.

That there could be just one reason that I am doing a lot of things wrong intrigues me, but I wouldn't want to hijack Whippy's thread. I am in IRC, if you want, thanks.

[Stingray1]

Well, this is good for Whippy and others to know too. You hit the nail on the head there, by stating that you do not remember. With that problem playing spoiled or unspoiled won't make much difference. You need to somehow force your brain into becoming cognitive. The best and first thing I can suggest is to completely stop making backups of your savefiles, the second is to start reading in-game information and perhaps even the manual again would do good. Try to always think what would be the best thing to do now, instead of just mashing on.

Some things I noticed and still recall( it was a few weeks back) are that you do not change tactics, you do not equip some items when found, you do not use missile combat and many more, but doing what I said above will make all these things come naturally over time.

[Tyrnyx]

My suggestions: Religion, Missiles, and Fear are all you friends. Personally, I underutilize just about all of those suggestions. Also, early artifacts can make a big difference.

My biggest mistake: not backing off when I can get in trouble.

I recently lost a character on the last level of the game for the sole reason of me not waiting. That's it, all I had to do was wait and I probably would have survived.

I even more recently lost another on the second to last because even though I knew the risks I didn't back off. It's only after that I think about it, realize I had a simple solution and ignored it, and hate myself a little.

However, I've won more than once, so it's definitely possible to bash your way to victory stubbornly. Might take a few more years and since your unspoiled a few more years on top of that but it's definitely doable. In fact, in some very few ways unspoiled is better. Between my first and second win I realized that I was doing waaay too many things that were utterly unnecessary just because I knew they could be done.

Good luck.

[Stingray1]

In fact, in some very few ways unspoiled is better. Between my first and second win I realized that I was doing waaay too many things that were utterly unnecessary just because I knew they could be done.

Well, I'm inclined to say that in very many ways unspoiled is better. I remember when I eventually read some spoilers a year ago, my games became extremely tedious for a few months, because there was nothing new, I thought. Until I started challenging myself and now I'm discovering new things all over again and that is great fun. Reading spoilers takes away so much, it is much more exciting to learn things yourself and figure things out and discovering new places than boringly reading it somewhere. As a bonus you get to be a better player and smarter too.