How many of the suggested achievements have you already completed?

[Al-Khwarizmi]

I think there should be special achievement for getting crushed by tons of luggage when you run out of SoA.
For added complexity, you should be paralyzed by an eye you just accidentally hit, unable to recast SoA that started running out just a turn after getting paralyzed... true story.

That's nothing. One of my first characters that got past the ToEF died to not being able to recast SoA due to spider webs. Since then, I instinctively recast SoA as soon as I see spiders or webs...

I'm with TB in this though. Amusing as some deaths are, the player shouldn't be incentivized for actively looking for deaths.

[grobblewobble]

There should be a friday the 13th achievement for when you win with a character started on that date without losing your curse. (Maybe even add a doom achievement?)

And how about a completionist achievement for when you win with every class? Many people try to achieve that.

Clearing a greater undead vault is notoriously hard and also worth an achievement. (Killing all the liches should count as clearing, though - a single ghost that panicked and is hiding in rock shouldn't spoil it.) Clearing a karmic dragon vault is worth an achievement too, if only because they're so rare.

Wishing for the emperor moloch and killing all the summons?

Another fun one could be to kill a monster by summoning a djinn, but maybe that is too spoily?

[_Ln_]

I think you guys are, as often, biased by your expertise.

How much time were you playing ADOM before you could successfully do blanket runs or rob the Casino shop? Or get to DT without using any scrolls/books and completing the quest to get literate? In my case, weeks or maybe months in the first case, months or probably years in the second, and definitely years in the third (playing unspoiled, but hey, that's how you should play the game - if not, I'd say it's your way of playing that is not exciting, not the achievements).

Here in the forum we are a bunch of hardcore players but most of the new players that come through Steam aren't going to be like that, maybe only 10% will manage to finish the game and many won't even hit Dwarftown. There must be basic achievements so that you give most players motivation in their learning of the game. A couple of days ago I tried Age of Wonders III for the first time and in the first two hours of play I unlocked 8 achievements, I could say the same of many games, it's the standard thing: have some easy achievements to motivabe novices, and then go up all the way to the almost-impossible achievements for the pros.

Honestly I often criticise stuff in the game (precrowning!) but in this case I think TB has nailed it. Of course the list of achievements can see minor adjustments, nothing is perfect, but the general suggestions for changing the difficulty balance or removing certain kinds of achievements are for the worse IMO. The current list has a list of achievements that is varied, has something for every kind of player (even a couple of achievements for grinders, which I don't like but hey, they'll have to give them something to do too), and a good mix of difficulties.

Funny that you say that, considering that TB's list has about 10 achievements that do not have anything to do with mid-late game. Among the remaining almost everything else is about end-game. 37/71 achievements require the PC to reach below the wall of flames, and about 25+ of these require the PC to win the game. This is ADOM, where some people struggle to get a single win in years. I mean that's just absurd.

[Carter]

Eternium Man / under 10k turns definitely impossible with the current setup.

I'd be at about 66-67, probably only missing Eternium / Under 10k / under 20k / Steel man since i've done an archmage.

thinking about it could probably hit about 50 of those achievements in one archmage game!

[Dervi]

I've probably completed 54/68. Exceptions are probably:
- Get the Minotaur Axe: I never bother, the Minotaur Labyrinth is too tedious for my taste
- Score x million points: no idea, I never care about score
- Achieve the Ultimate Nihilist Ending: sup?
- Complete the game within x turns: same as score, I don't care about turns
- Titanium Man: never cared about low xp
- Collect n achievements: this one is not defined, so over 50 would give another achievement I guess
- Eternium Man: this is a tough one... did anyone already completed it without cheating (this means NOT using 1.0.0 p1)?
- Plutonium Man: this involves grinding, so no I probably didn't complete that one
- Steel Man: this is pointless, I think this shouldn't be an achievement

[dai]

At a conservative estimate 28, maybe a few more. I suspect it will take me a year or two to do all those again though!