Adom grandmaster:

[Soirana]

Apparently it's possible to obtain chaos trinity without committing any chaotic acts, assuming the quests themselves are not chaotic.

Citation needed.

Overall it is possible to get raw steel stuff after getting lawful-squeeze-girdle.

[Blasphemous]

If receiving the medal is indeed chaotic then the only option I see is do the quests after getting platinum girdle.
One need not even put it on - the idea is to collect all artifacts, not wear them.
Close the gate, return to HMV or to ratling and go ahead.

[Rick]

If receiving the medal is indeed chaotic then the only option I see is do the quests after getting platinum girdle.
One need not even put it on - the idea is to collect all artifacts, not wear them.
Close the gate, return to HMV or to ratling and go ahead.

Yes the idea was to mark the artifact when you have it in the inventory, not necessarily equipped, when you leave the place after closing the gate (and lose Ultra ending if you have trinity, or play the game illiterate if you want potion of literacy, at least one time).
It's anyway surely impossible to get even all the guaranteed ones in a single game, so this will take many different games. Will force to plan some tricky games to bring home the more you can in a single game. Will help to play all class, I am one of those that when found that play-style I prefer then it's hard to change
Chaos trinity can be collected in single game, the sceptre of chaos maybe too in the same game?...then stored until you leave.
I was looking for a reason for keep with you the black tome...and didn't find anyone than this

[Soirana]

Chaos trinity can be collected in single game, the sceptre of chaos maybe too in the same game?...then stored until you leave.

Well, you know, getting Chaos medal and crown means 6 artifacts not in inventory but being fed to ratling.

It is possible to get them through several playthroughs although several are available as crowning gifts for duelists and chaos knights only.

I think someone played max artifact grab via leveling to 50 in ID and doing
15 precrowns. That would get random ones rather quickly.

[Rick]

Well, you know, getting Chaos medal and crown means 6 artifacts not in inventory but being fed to ratling.

It is possible to get them through several playthroughs although several are available as crowning gifts for duelists and chaos knights only.

I think someone played max artifact grab via leveling to 50 in ID and doing
15 precrowns. That would get random ones rather quickly.

Sure, ideally are 6 guaranteed artifacts already gathered in another run so no need to take again.

I thought about this too, just for fun:

"I hate the crowd" challenge, kill every unique NPC and monster generated in a regular win (so random spawns excluded). This means avoid entering locations or kill everyone before the end of the game. High king can be avoided since you have to kill EG, for example. Some of the strongest NPC are unavoidable like casino shopkeeper. Quiet easy.

"Where are them all?" challenge, do it without turn chaotic during the game. Less easy but maybe it's not impossible.

"There can be only one!" challenge, kill EVERY unique NPC that exist in the game, until you face Andy. Free choice if one exclude another like healer or druid. Saving Khelavaster to kill him later with your hands can be painful, I like the old man..Not so tricky after all, a matter of strenght, since you have to visit anyway most of the places...

I never play chaotic, I like to be the hero usually, so I would put to the last challenge at least a restriction: NOT THE CHILDREN..that poor little girl has already lost her dog, since you have to kill it if it's generated alive.

[Soirana]

Apparently no plants achievement does not trigger on ultra. i mean that or ate some apples at some point...

[Soirana]

Anyone has an idea wtf "true ascension" is?
It looked like failed chaos ultra, but I think failed ultra for chaos defaults into OCG.

[SirTheta]

If receiving the medal is indeed chaotic then the only option I see is do the quests after getting platinum girdle.
One need not even put it on - the idea is to collect all artifacts, not wear them.
Close the gate, return to HMV or to ratling and go ahead.

Granted, this abused a number of bugs, but the theory behind it is still perfectly valid for those with a lot of patience: http://adom.brinkster.net/hof/flg_di...ukawa-edit.txt. (in fact, it is much easier now)

[Soirana]

Anyone has an idea wtf "true ascension" is?
It looked like failed chaos ultra, but I think failed ultra for chaos defaults into OCG.

True ascension is apparently snuff out ending of chaos knight. I could swear I've done it before, so probably being C at closing does not count. N- certainly does.

[Soirana]

Okay , so I am at 76/83. time to start working towards eternium man... I got poor selection books on this wizard but scroll rolled yellow ooze and decided to try him [so far 3 attacks up to 116, but 63hp and 30 DV, not ready to push DL, still poisonous regenerating glass cannon].
RNG doing her best so far... got stethoscope and anvil but not a single ring....

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Hagane        St:12  Le:14  Wi:14  Dx:15  To:13  Ch:12  Ap:12  Ma:22  Pe:16 NC
DV/PV: 28/8    H: 22(22)      P: 31(31)      Exp: 2/128        SMC    Sp: 105
Bloated Coward M: 9789
[nailed few mobs while training concentration with bookcasted mm]


Name: Hagane              Race: female Gnome        Class: Wizard
Eye color: green          Hair color: black         Complexion: ruddy
Height: 3'                Weight: 103 pounds
Age: 107 (grown-up)
Star sign: Raven          Birthday: 8/Raven (day 8 of the year)

        As a young child you were often alone. You did not have any
 friends. You do not like to remember those times. They were very sad.
        As a kid you often watched the adult adventurers preparing for new
 exciting journeys. They sparked your imagination.
[Figures how she ended in eternium man challenge]
        You decided to become a Wizard.


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                                   Spells
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   Acid Bolt          :   266,  15pp     (Effectivity: +0)
   Cure Serious Wounds:   145,  10pp     (Effectivity: +0) 
[should have kept the book:(]
   Fire Bolt          :   146,  10pp     (Effectivity: +0)
   Knock              :   386,  12pp     (Effectivity: +1)
   Lightning Bolt     :   317,  12pp     (Effectivity: +0)
   Magic Missile      :   225,   8pp     (Effectivity: +0)
[hoped for Le increase, got Wi... if mobs start hacking wizzie mid bookreading and he keeps on... does that train Wi.... worth investigating]

  Alchemy .............. 48    (fair)         [+4d5] [recipes suck so far]
  Climbing ............. 24    (mediocre)     [+3d4]
  Concentration ........ 68    (good)         [+3d5]
  First aid ............ 36    (fair)         [+3d3]
  Gemology ............. 11    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
  Haggling ............. 19    (mediocre)     [+3d5]
  Healing .............. 33    (fair)         [+3d3]
  Herbalism ............ 40    (fair)         [+4d4]
  Listening ............ 39    (fair)         [+3d5]
  Literacy .............100    (superb)       [+2d4]
  Mining ...............  5    (poor)         [+3d4]
  Pick pockets ......... 38    (fair)         [+3d3]
  Stealth .............. 30    (mediocre)     [+3d3]
  Ventriloquism ........ 40    (fair)         [+2d4]




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                                  Inventory
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Total weight: 733 stones                Carrying capacity: 1200 stones

Head          : bone helmet [+0, +3]                                  [40s]
Neck          : -
Body          : leather armor of speed [+0, +2]                      [150s]
Girdle        : -
Cloak         : light cloak [+1, +0]                                  [20s]
Right Hand    : rapier (+1, 1d6+1) [+1, +1]                           [30s]
Left Hand     : wooden shield [+3, -1]                                [80s]
Right Ring    : ring of searching                                      [1s]
Left Ring     : ring of cold resistance                                [1s]
Bracers       : -
Gauntlets     : gloves [+0, +3]                                        [6s]
Boots         : gnomish boots (+1, +0) [+4, +0]                       [10s]
Missile Weapon: -
Missiles      : arrow                                                  [2s]
Tool          : uncursed stethoscope                                   [5s]


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                                    Stuff
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Total weight: 388 stones   Carrying capacity: 1200 stones

Helmets ('[')
   uncursed hat [+0, +2]                                               [4s]
Gauntlets ('[')
   gloves [+2, +0]                                                     [6s]
   gauntlets                                                          [10s]
[I ceratinly would not mind peace gauntlets]
Necklaces (''')
   glass amulet                                                        [3s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
   white orcish knife (+0, 1d3+2)                                     [10s]
Missiles ('/')
   arrow                                                               [2s]
   bundle of 2 arrows                                                  [4s]
   arrow                                                               [2s]
   arrow                                                               [2s]
Tools (']')
   heap of 4 torches                                                  [40s]
   box with flint and steel (30)                                       [5s]
   tinderbox (11)                                                      [3s]
   blanket                                                            [10s]
   torch                                                              [10s]
   torch                                                              [10s]
   box with flint and steel (5)                                        [5s]
   round key                                                           [1s]
   box with flint and steel (18)                                       [5s]
Wands ('\')
   wand of trap creation (8 charges)                                   [3s]
[saw like 6 gremlins so far, in 1.1.1 I would be set]
   broken wand of light                                                [4s]
   wand of light (3 charges)                                           [4s]
Potions ('!')
   potion of water                                                     [4s]
   light yellow potion                                                 [4s]
   smelly potion                                                       [4s]
   light blue potion                                                   [4s]
Scrolls ('?')
   scroll of information                                               [2s]
   scroll of darkness                                                  [2s]
   scroll of item destruction                                          [2s]
   scroll of monster aggravation                                       [2s]
   scroll of identify                                                  [2s]
   scroll of monster detection                                         [2s]
   scroll of defense                                                   [2s]
   blank scroll                                                        [2s]
   heap of 2 scrolls of power                                          [4s]
   scroll of darkness                                                  [2s]
Books ('"')
   spellbook of Magic Missile                                        [100s]
[have few element books somewhere on level]
Food ('%')
   melon                                                              [20s]
   loaf of bread                                                      [40s]
   dwarven sausage                                                    [20s]
   seed                                                                [2s]
   seed                                                                [2s]
   dwarven sausage                                                    [20s]
   fortune cookie                                                      [3s]
Valuables ('$')
   38 gold pieces                                                      [0s]
[PP'ed]


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                               Killed Monsters
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3 monsters perished under her attacks.

The following monsters were vanquished:
      1 goblin
      1 rat
      1 skeleton
[sigh]


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                                Achievements
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She survived for 0 years, 4 days, 18 hours, 50 minutes and 6 seconds (9789
turns).
Hagane visited 2 places.
Her strength score was modified by +3 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +1 during her career.





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                               Playing Time
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You played for 1 hour, 49 minutes and 14 seconds.
[It is going to be test on patience surely]

Mob generation is slowing, so exit to wildernes and reenter will be needed.