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    Default Mino Maze on DE Barb

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    Suratobi      St:51  Le:19  Wi:28  Dx:25  To:24  Ch:10  Ap:21  Ma:21  Pe:24 L+
    DV/PV: 39/43   H: 223(453)    P: 169(169)    Exp: 29/5628159    ML2   Sp: 103
    Blessed Bloated
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    Pole arms                6    +6    +2   +5   skilled              220
    Twohanded weapons       13   +16   +21   +5   Mastery              1659
    
    Missile weapon         Lvl   Hit   Dam   Ra   Level          Required marks
    ---------------------  ---   ---   ---   --   -------------  --------------
    Slings                   0    +0    +0   +0   unskilled            7
    Bows                     3    +6    +4   +1   basic                15
    Crossbows                3    +6    +4   +1   basic                17
    Thrown axes & hammers    0    +0    +0   +0   unskilled            7
    Thrown daggers           1    +2    +1   +0   basic                12
    Thrown rocks & clubs     0    +0    +0   +0   unskilled            7
    Thrown spears            0    +0    +0   +0   unskilled            7
    Boomerangs & scurgari    0    +0    +0   +0   unskilled            2
    
    Shields                Lvl   DV               Level          Required marks
    ---------------------  ---   ---              -------------  --------------
    Shields                  0    +0              unskilled            15
    
    
    Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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    Right hand: +75 bonus to hit, 6d5+55 damage
    
    
    Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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    Ammunition: 13, base range: 13, +45 bonus to hit, 1d6+22 damage
    
    
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                                       Skills
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      Alertness ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Athletics ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Backstabbing ............. 52    (good)         [+4d4]
      Climbing ................. 80    (great)        [+3d3]
      Courage .................. 89    (great)        [+1d3]
      Dodge ....................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Find weakness ............100    (superb)       [+1d5]
      First aid ................100    (superb)       [+1d5]
      Haggling ................. 37    (fair)         [+3d3]
      Herbalism ................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Listening ................100    (superb)       [+3d5]
      Literacy ................. 59    (good)         [+1]
      Stealth ..................100    (superb)       [+2d4]
      Survival ................. 55    (good)         [+4d4]
      Swimming ................. 80    (great)        [+3d3]
      Tactics .................. 70    (good)         [+1]
      Two weapon combat ........ 72    (great)        [+3d4]
      Woodcraft ................ 15    (mediocre)     [+4d5]
    
    
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                                Effects of Corruption
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    You exhale sulphur (Ch: -4).
    
    
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                                      Inventory
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    Total weight: 10517 stones                Carrying capacity: 16275 stones
    
    He: uncursed eternium cap [+0, +4]                                    [28s]
    Ne: blessed Aylas Holy Scarf [+10, +10] {Ch+6}                         [5s]
    Bo: uncursed red dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +13]                [220s]
    Gi: blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0]                               [15s]
    Cl: uncursed cloak of adornment [+0, +0] {Ap+4}                       [40s]
    RH: blessed silvery two-handed sword "Vanquisher" (+3, 6d5+3) [-3, +0][300s]
    LH: -
    RR: uncursed ring of searching                                         [1s]
    LR: uncursed ring of teleport control                                  [1s]
    Br: -
    Ga: uncursed iron gauntlets "Ironfist" (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7}       [10s]
    Bo: blessed adamantium boots [+0, +3]                                 [89s]
    MW: uncursed long bow of hunting (+6, +3)                             [30s]
    Mi: bundle of 13 uncursed arrows of darkness (+0, 1d6)                [26s]
    Tl: uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10}                     [100s]
    
    
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                                        Stuff
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    Total weight: 9652 stones   Carrying capacity: 16275 stones
    
    Helmets ('[')
       blessed mithril cap [+0, +2]                                       [40s]
       uncursed helm of teleportation [+0, +1]                            [50s]
       uncursed adamantium cap [+0, +2]                                   [36s]
       uncursed helm of water breathing [+0, +1]                          [30s]
       uncursed crown of fire [+1, +1]                                    [65s]
    Armor ('[')
       uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8}                    [60s]
       uncursed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5}             [60s]
       uncursed fine leather armor "Nature's Companion" (+2, +0) [+2, +8] (+15 spd)
       uncursed blue dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +10]                [200s]
    Gauntlets ('[')
       blessed gloves of dexterity [+0, +0] {Dx+2}                         [6s]
       uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3]                     [10s]
    Girdles ('[')
       uncursed adamantium girdle [+0, +4]                                [18s]
       blessed eternium girdle [+0, +4]                                   [12s]
    Boots ('[')
       blessed seven league boots [+1, +0]                                [30s]
    
    Two-handed weapons ('(')
       uncursed rune-covered halberd "Wyrmlance" (+15, 4d8+10) [-2, +0]   [50s]
       uncursed scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle" (+6, 10d4+6) [+2, +2]  [70s]
       blessed eternium two-handed sword of slaughtering (+18, 7d7+18) [-1, +0]
    Missile weapons ('}')
       uncursed heavy crossbow of accuracy (+11, +3)                     [140s]
       uncursed sling of the long shot (+2, +3)                            [3s]
       uncursed short bow (+1, +0)                                        [20s]
       uncursed long bow (+0, +2)                                         [30s]
    Tools (']')
       uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10}                     [100s]
    Rings ('=')
       uncursed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd)          [1s]
       heap of 2 blessed rings of djinni summoning                         [2s]
    Potions ('!')
       potion of cure corruption                                           [2s]
    
    Food ('%')
       heap of 6 uncursed curaria mancox herbs                            [12s]
       heap of 3 uncursed devil's roses                                    [6s]
       heap of 23 uncursed spenseweeds                                    [46s]
       heap of 10 uncursed bones                                          [40s]
       heap of 15 blessed moss patches of mareilon                        [30s]
       heap of 7 uncursed moss patches of mareilon                        [14s]
       heap of 8 uncursed pepper petals                                   [16s]
       heap of 15 blessed burb roots                                      [30s]
       heap of 8 uncursed burb roots                                      [16s]
       heap of 17 blessed stomacemptia herbs                              [34s]
       heap of 2 blessed devil's roses                                     [4s]
       heap of 4 uncursed lumps of beeswax                                [20s]
       blessed lump of beeswax                                             [5s]
       heap of 2 uncursed lumps of gelee royal                             [6s]
       heap of 8 blessed morgia roots                                     [16s]
       heap of 2 blessed curaria mancox herbs                              [4s]
       heap of 7 blessed stomafillia herbs                                [14s]
       heap of 7 uncursed stomacemptia herbs                              [14s]
       heap of 4 blessed demon daisies                                     [8s]
       heap of 2 uncursed alraunia antidotes                               [4s]
       heap of 5 blessed alraunia antidotes                               [10s]
       uncursed stomafillia herb                                           [2s]
       uncursed morgia root                                                [2s]
       heap of 113 cooked lizards                                        [339s]
       large ration                                                      [200s]
    Valuables ('$')
       456630 gold pieces                                               [4566s]
    Gems ('*')
       uncursed sapphire                                                   [1s]
       heap of 2 uncursed crystals of power                                [2s]
       uncursed worthless piece of red glass                               [1s]
       blessed crystal of power                                            [1s]
       heap of 3 uncursed crystals of darkness                             [3s]
       heap of 2 uncursed crystals of light                                [2s]
       blessed topaz                                                       [1s]
       heap of 2 uncursed worthless pieces of green glass                  [2s]
       heap of 2 uncursed crystals of knowledge                            [2s]
       uncursed crystal of health                                          [1s]
       heap of 2 uncursed worthless pieces of brown glass                  [2s]
       blessed aquamarine                                                  [1s]
       blessed crystal of light                                            [1s]
    
    
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                                   Killed Monsters
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          1 Ancient Chaos Wyrm
          1 ancient karmic dragon
         37 ancient red dragons
          4 great red wyrms
          1 mummy lord
          1 Snake from Beyond

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    So im in the Mino maze atm and have 2 blessed RoDS have fully explored both ML2 lvls and both have 2 sets of down stairs. Ive only been here once and am curious if wishes for SoMM are worth it and about when i should start trying to use them. i have plenty of normal ammo and most types of slaying although not shown here i can post a full inventory if anyone wants to see it. also curious although im sure of the answer that i should be using Vanquisher over the Eternium 2h of slaughtering. my rings right now are purely for the traps in the lvl as i have both RotMC and HKs but i havent seen a single blink dog this whole game so i have to use the tele control ring and searching for obvious reasons while in the maze levels.

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    http://anydice.com/program/55d2

    Think I would still go with Vanquisher. Now if one would manage to get item(s) that increase chance for critical strike I would really consider eternium one. As Find Weakness alone is 20-25% crit chance.

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    yeah ring of the master cat does that however vanquisher only does crit on 3 monster types in the game. beast, bug, and plant so its pretty much always criting

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    look....your damage in your current setting is 6d5+55 = 73 of which 6d5+3 = 21 is V, so your base damage is 52....lets say it is 57 for berserk mode. so the damage you are comparing is V= 78*2 = 156 (always critting) and E2hander = (7d7+18+57)*(0.6*1+0.4*2) = 144 (40% critting). so, V clearly wins. also vanquishing your foes is very....pleasing to me. if you had eternium 2 hander of devastation it would be (10d6+24+57)*(0.6*1+0.4*2) = 162. even then i would pick V since the damage is more even....so it is not wasted on 'overkills'. also, the to-hit bonus is very important for a barbarian since you dont want your tremendous blow to miss! finally, why the f are u not wearing natures companion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenshire View Post
    So im in the Mino maze atm and have 2 blessed RoDS have fully explored both ML2 lvls and both have 2 sets of down stairs. Ive only been here once and am curious if wishes for SoMM are worth it and about when i should start trying to use them..
    imho, you are better off using them earlier since once you get to lvl 5 you know you are close to the mark, and you know you haven't gone down the right chute.

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    @divij
    Thanks for the damage analysis on the 2 weapons as for not wearing natures i was having some issues with back to back fire vaults so i swapped to the RDSM from robes of resistance forgot that the leather granted both fire and shock immunities though it was ice and shock. ill correct that once i start the save back up.

    @carter
    thanks for the advice about mapping earlier lvls over later ones ill probably get right on that.

    anyone happen to know about how many scrolls i can expect per wish

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    I only did the maze once, it took me about ten minutes, spoiled as hell of course. If you use the scrolls from the Bug Cave (eight of them, that's all you need) from level 4 down, it's rather fast (just check how many downstairs each level has to exclude the some of the false levels). You avoid most traps, living walls, fake walls, etc. Levels 1-3 are, for the most part, harmless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luli View Post
    I only did the maze once, it took me about ten minutes, spoiled as hell of course. If you use the scrolls from the Bug Cave (eight of them, that's all you need) from level 4 down, it's rather fast (just check how many downstairs each level has to exclude the some of the false levels). You avoid most traps, living walls, fake walls, etc. Levels 1-3 are, for the most part, harmless.
    ok so about 8 scrolls will get me through the maze good to know. i cant do the bug cave cause im already lvl 29 and i dont want to risk losing access to the maze cause im pretty sure this guy can take it and i want to play with the axe for once

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