"Likely to be eaten by a grue"

[Ascaron]

Yeah, in Zork they were introduced to stop players wandering about with no light sources. Funny how it evolved into such a nerd fad...

Something that can't be defeated in any conventional method, yet is very easy to avoid and protect yourself from, that by the way happens to have fangs and can instakill anyone not prepared?

Honestly, I'm not at all surprised that nerds love it.

[Bird2234]

Yup, grues are from Zork. You never actually see one, you just get eaten by them.

[dallonj]

can other NPCs get eaten by them? i opened a tension room of goblins and backed up into a dark room, it strarted saying i was likely to be eaten almost every turn and then i kept hearing pained screams in the distance. anybody know if goblins are doomed?

[JellySlayer]

Random pop culture reference... Zork is the game played by Chuck and Bryce in the TV show "Chuck".

[edit]No, monsters can never be eaten by a grue. Even for players it happens very rarely... I play doomed PCs frequently and end up having to spend a non-trivial amount of time under threat of grue. I've been eaten twice...

[gut]

You can only be eaten when entering anyway, so it's just
a 1/1000 chance, no matter how long you stay in there.

[JellySlayer]

You can only be eaten when entering anyway, so it's just
a 1/1000 chance, no matter how long you stay in there.

From my experience, this isn't the case.

[gut]

I got it from Sorear or twinge on IRC, maybe both. It was
when I was coaching Cash on how to melee shoppies in
darkness and found out he was doomed. Maybe I got it
wrong, but I'll see if I can sniff the logs somewhere.

[gut]

Here it is, but I got it a bit wrong. Turns out I got
the info from Sami, who in turn got it from twinge.

08:31 <Cash> at the casino
08:31 <gut> you may tp in, toward the back of the shop
08:32 <gut> that shouldn't set off an alarm
08:32 <Cash> the guards are afraid of me lol
08:32 <gut> shopkeeper?
08:32 <Cash> he doesnt care about me
08:33 <Cash> of tits
08:33 <Cash> he does now
08:33 <gut> darkness
08:33 <gut> melee him
08:33 <Cash> he threw gold at me and did 58damage
08:33 <Cash> ok
08:33 <samim> ACW is dead
08:34 <Cash> are guards killable? cause i dont want to die in the darkness
08:34 <gut> you can't die in the darkness
08:34 <gut> that's your safe haven
08:34 * zasvid (fw-gw-atm.mimuw.edu.pl) joins #adom
08:34 <gut> yes, you could normally kill the gaurds easily
08:35 <gut> you are doomed though, and so they will paralyze you outside of darkness
08:35 <gut> just don't let the shopkeeper melee you
08:36 <gut> and remember how fast he is
08:36 <gut> well, how goes it?
08:36 <Cash> not dead yet
08:37 <Cash> how much xp is the shop keeper so i know when i kill him
08:37 <gut> I know it's a gamble, standing in darkness while doomed, but I see no other way
08:37 <Cash> pools
08:37 <gut> about 4 mil, prolly
08:37 <samim> standing in darkness isn't gambling
08:37 <samim> it's only entering the darkness that may kill you
08:38 <zasvid> entering? not moving?
08:38 <gut> thanks, I never knew that
08:38 <Cash> really?
08:38 <samim> entering only afaik
08:38 <Cash> ill quit walking out
08:38 <gut> cool
08:38 <samim> iirc Twinge said it's something like 1/50 chance to die when you're doomed and enter darkness
08:38 <Cash> i dont know where he went lol
08:39 <gut> make shopkeeper panic, kill gaurds,
08:39 <Cash> 1/50?
08:39 <Cash> jesus
08:39 <gut> shopkeeper will come back
08:39 <gut> just don't meet him with you on the wrong side of the border
08:39 <gut> and don't throw missiles at him when he runs
08:40 <gut> it will automatically bring him to you, which you don't want
08:40 <gut> you want to chase/melee him
08:40 <gut> you should move faster than him, even with the cursed boots
08:40 <gut> I wish there was a way to uncurse them though
08:40 <gut> you could try praying
08:41 <gut> so casting darkness/light shouldn't give the grue instadeath chance eh?
08:41 <Cash> i had to use that orb
08:41 <samim> not sure about that
08:42 <gut> who took your HP's?
08:42 <Cash> him
08:42 <Cash> he is sooo annoying
08:42 <gut> the shopkeeper?
08:42 <Cash> i am just tad faster
08:43 <Cash> and he keeps running and he ran towards a ton of guards now
08:43 <gut> coward at all times, unless you melee
08:43 <gut> he can only throw one gp at least
08:45 <gut> report!
08:45 <gut> If you pull this off, it'll be a well earned victory
08:46 <gut> the casino shopkeeper has killed me sooo many times
08:46 <Cash> i am running to heal atm
08:46 <Cash> does he heal too?
08:46 <gut> yeah
08:46 <Cash> ughhhh
08:46 <gut> not with spells at least
08:46 <Cash> grr
08:46 <gut> do you have no piety at all?
08:47 <Cash> nine
08:47 <Cash> none
08:47 <Cash> but u have cure light wounds
08:47 <gut> negative
08:47 <Cash> i*
08:47 <gut> ah
08:47 <gut> hey, throw a cursed potion of blindness at him!
08:47 <gut> cursed invis, I mean
08:48 <gut> he may stumble into you if you do that though.
08:48 <samim> nice balor...
08:48 <samim> summoned acid vortices
08:48 <gut> but at least it would give you an opportunity to try a paralyze wand or something
08:48 <Cash> i cant do that with a bow on
08:49 <gut> I read a report of yulgash doing that, and they chain reactioned for several 100's of HP's
08:49 <gut> maybe we shoulda sipped pools or something...
08:50 <Cash> we still can
08:50 <gut> go do it
08:50 <Cash> because now i have to lure him back into darkness
08:50 <Cash> thank god i am going to live!
08:50 <gut>

[JellySlayer]

Hmm... maybe you're right.

Just did a test where I made a big trench of darkness across a wilderness square, ran back and forth for 5000 turns and no death. Tried making a patchy trench of light/dark of the same size and died within a couple hundred turns.

Makes those flickering light rooms rather nasty while doomed, then, I guess...

[moomoo]

@gut

from what irc is that? the irc at freenode (i guess?) with lots of people never gets any discussion going on at all.