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    Default Lithium Man - Need Advice on Promising PC

    Been years since I played ADOM, a former longer time player years back, started to play again around Feb 2016, proceeded to fall in love with the game again and got addicted (again lol) I managed to get a win about a week ago with a 0 save run game on a Drakeling monk, still a lot of the new content I not touched yet, but needless to say it doesn't apply in this topic given I decided to make an attempt at a Lithium man run.

    But to make a long story short, I decided to roll a Dark elf beastfighter with candle rolled, proceeded to get to the CoC barely (Almost died on route to a lost souls encounter) But on D:1, I got a massive orc tension room, and close by, a neutral altar, decided to crown immediately with so much sac fodder, converted and sacced my way to absolute close extremely quickly, crowned a champion of balance in the first room of the game at level 5, got cloak of omar (Not so great except for early teleport capability on a blink dog corpse) but dinged fire immunity, already got a huge part of the ToEF checklist cleared already, game pretty much rolled on as per usual, got a stable herb room on top of the herb room that has Morgia root and mareilon, and done all the quests except for the greater demon in DT (On my way to deliver the arena quest as of this time) The DH was very scary and I ended up running in DH1 into a moloch AND a titan, luckily I was close enough to a corner I was able to get the hell out of there without getting shot to death, but only close call I had so far.

    But I am really unsure how to proceed now from here, also I know I need to somehow move the elder from the switch so I can proceed further into the CoC, and don't have a teleport source yet, but basically, what I am asking is, what should I do after doing DT? Farm herbs for a bit to raise my To and will? Grind a bit? Just looking for some advice from more experienced players on this challenge, got a very good early start, not looking to squander it.

    Before posting, I ended up drinking from a pool a few times, I got death resistance and paralysis resistance, but I lost my teleport control ugh, need to try and get that back first for sure, hence why the omar cloak is in my inventory atm.

    Any advice from here would be nice

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    Blop Lit St:19 Le: 8 Wi:17 Dx:23 To:20 Ch: 4 Ap:12 Ma:18 Pe:19
    N+
    DV/PV: 38/15 H: 148(148) P: 46(46) Exp: 13/76366 M: 12961

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    Inventory
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    Total weight: 2203 stones Carrying capacity: 2100 stones

    Head : uncursed mithril cap [+0, +2] [40s]
    Neck : uncursed rusty amulet of defense +5 [3s]
    Body : uncursed spider shell armor (+0, -2) [-1, +5] [300s]
    Girdle : metal girdle [+0, +1] [25s]
    Cloak : uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s]
    Right Hand : -
    Left Hand : -
    Right Ring : uncursed ring of acid resistance [1s]
    Left Ring : uncursed ring of searching [1s]
    Bracers : uncursed bracers of defense [+2, +0] [10s]
    Gauntlets : uncursed white leather gauntlets [+0, +1] [10s]
    Boots : uncursed light boots [+0, +1] [20s]
    Missile Weapon: uncursed short bow (+1, +3) [20s]
    Missiles : bundle of 5 cursed mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [10s]
    Tool : -


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    Total weight: 1743 stones Carrying capacity: 2100 stones

    Gauntlets ('[')
    uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +0] [15s]
    red gauntlets [10s]
    gloves [6s]
    Cloaks ('[')
    blessed cloak of Oman (+2, +0) [+4, +4] {Dx+8} [20s]
    Girdles ('[')
    uncursed leather girdle [+0, +0] [5s]
    Necklaces (''')
    blessed amulet of balance [3s]
    uncursed necklace of the silver tongue {Ch+3} [2s]
    uncursed amulet of free action [3s]
    uncursed necklace of rapid healing [2s]
    blue amulet [3s]
    amulet of free action [3s]
    blue amulet [3s]
    silver amulet [3s]
    One-handed weapons ('(')
    uncursed pick axe (+0, 1d6+4) [75s]
    uncursed adamantium mace (+0, 1d6+6) [72s]
    large hammer [89s]
    golden gladius [30s]
    Two-handed weapons ('(')
    ancient scythe [70s]
    Missile weapons ('}')
    uncursed short bow (+1, +0) [20s]
    Missiles ('/')
    bundle of 3 uncursed quarrels of jelly slaying (+6, 2d6+5) [12s]
    bundle of 3 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [6s]
    uncursed arrow (-2, 1d6) [2s]
    uncursed arrow of darkness (+0, 1d6) [2s]
    bundle of 6 arrows [12s]
    bundle of 18 arrows [36s]
    arrow [2s]
    arrow [2s]
    Tools (']')
    blessed small key [1s]
    uncursed round key [1s]
    heap of 2 uncursed small keys [2s]
    uncursed fireproof blanket [10s]
    blessed torch [10s]
    uncursed si [10s]
    blessed square key [1s]
    blanket [10s]
    heap of 2 sis [20s]
    triangular key [1s]
    Rings ('=')
    uncursed ring of the fish [1s]
    cursed ring of searching [1s]
    uncursed ring of cold resistance [1s]
    Wands ('\')
    uncursed wand of cold (4 charges) [4s]
    blessed wand of trap creation (3 charges) [3s]
    curved wand [3s]
    twisted wand [3s]
    marble wand [3s]
    oak wand [3s]
    Potions ('!')
    uncursed potion of balance [4s]
    uncursed potion of learning [4s]
    heap of 8 potions of holy water [32s]
    cursed potion of toughness [4s]
    cursed potion of balance [4s]
    heap of 2 uncursed potions of carrot juice [8s]
    blessed berzio potion [2s]
    uncursed potion of booze [4s]
    uncursed potion of potential learning [4s]
    uncursed oil of rust removal [2s]
    uncursed potion of blindness [2s]
    uncursed berzio potion [2s]
    blessed potion of boost speed [2s]
    potion of booze [4s]
    shiny potion [2s]
    potion of water [4s]
    berzio potion [2s]
    Scrolls ('?')
    uncursed scroll of gold detection [2s]
    cursed scroll of light [2s]
    cursed scroll of monster aggravation [2s]
    uncursed scroll of satiation [2s]
    heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [4s]
    heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of light [4s]
    uncursed scroll of darkness [2s]
    cursed scroll of identify [2s]
    uncursed scroll of item destruction [2s]
    uncursed scroll of corruption removal [2s]
    scroll of great identify [2s]
    scroll of satiation [2s]
    scroll of identify [2s]
    papyrus scroll [2s]
    Food ('%')
    uncursed loaf of spider bread [3s]
    blessed piece of fresh meat [20s]
    heap of 3 uncursed melons [60s]
    heap of 2 uncursed iron rations [200s]
    uncursed large ration [200s]
    uncursed piece of fresh meat [20s]
    heap of 30 uncursed cooked lizards [90s]
    blessed stomafillia herb [2s]
    heap of 2 cursed pepper petals [4s]
    uncursed pepper petal [2s]
    heap of 2 uncursed stomafillia herbs [4s]
    heap of 2 cursed stomafillia herbs [4s]
    cursed stomacemptia herb [2s]
    uncursed demon daisy [2s]
    heap of 6 cursed alraunia antidotes [12s]
    heap of 3 uncursed spenseweeds [6s]
    heap of 3 cursed spenseweeds [6s]
    blessed curaria mancox herb [2s]
    heap of 2 blessed spenseweeds [4s]
    heap of 4 cursed curaria mancox herbs [8s]
    heap of 4 cursed moss patches of mareilon [8s]
    uncursed alraunia antidote [2s]
    uncursed curaria mancox herb [2s]
    cursed bit of gnomish candy [2s]
    bit of gnomish candy [2s]
    loaf of bread [40s]
    heap of 2 fortune cookies [6s]
    heap of 8 moss patches of mareilon [16s]
    heap of 8 moss patches of mareilon [16s]
    heap of 6 moss patches of mareilon [12s]
    heap of 5 morgia roots [10s]
    heap of 2 morgia roots [4s]
    heap of 2 morgia roots [4s]
    Valuables ('$')
    24635 gold pieces [246s]
    Gems ('*')
    uncursed worthless piece of brown glass [1s]
    uncursed sapphire [1s]
    heap of 2 uncursed aquamarines [2s]
    uncursed crystal of knowledge [1s]
    green gem [1s]
    white gem [1s]
    red gem [1s]

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    Considered saying "screw this" on succeding the Greater Demon quest and luring it to Thrundarr, hoping that it'll kill him? ... 5th quest (IIRC) gives Big Punch which is worthless for you.
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    Probably the fastest way I can think of right now, I don't like my chances of getting a means of teleporting him anytime soon, I do have a decently fast character, and really don't care too much on who dies In DT (Apart from maybe Garth but even still)

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    I think a wand of stunning is sufficient to get Thrundarr to move.
    Hoping to win with every class, doomed. Archer, Barbarian, Bard, Beastfighter, Druid, Elementalist, Farmer, Fighter, Monk, and ULE Priest down.

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    Not entirely serious but I think lvl 32 class power would work here ;)
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    Found a wand of stunning training up willpower/toughness with herbs, so I was able to deal with that

    But I hit a complication at the water temple .. started to dig .. and I have a water temple area with a lake lol, I never seen this happen before in a temple area

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    Blop Lithium St:21 Le:13 Wi:24 Dx:28 To:29 Ch: 5 Ap:12 Ma:20 Pe:20 N-
    DV/PV: 41/15 H: 255(255) P: 92(92) Exp: 17/275711 D: 19 Sp: 114
    Blessed Bloated Burdened
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    I do have a wand of cold thankfully, so this isn't a disaster, took a couple of stat drains though in the undead trek :/ But going to sleep with that in mind

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    If you have spare holy water, blessed ring of the fish will also provide sufficient protection.
    Hoping to win with every class, doomed. Archer, Barbarian, Bard, Beastfighter, Druid, Elementalist, Farmer, Fighter, Monk, and ULE Priest down.

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    Used the wands to get through the river to the temple (I did have a ring of the fish, but I got no waterproof blankets, so went the crossing method) Despite my pretty lowish DV at this point, smashed through the temple, and just crit arrowed the snake to death

    Found a tension room of vampires and got stat drained again at the area before the door of flames blocking me grrrrr, only with 21 STR, and had the misfortune of finding 2 doppelganger kings already which I almost got killed by one from overconfidence, but in a short time of farming, I found a RODS, and thinking what to wish for, the only thing I need for the ToEF is rings of ice, or maybe I could wish for a dragon scale mail (Though I already have fire immunity, adding another immunity would be really nice, I know I got no shock resistance at all) Or I could wish for a giant girdle of strength or save it for corruption removal (Had my first corruption and it was stiff muscles and already had to use my scroll to remove that)

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    Donīt wish for rings of ice. Rings of ice are not needed, having a blessed fireproof blanket is more than enough for equipment protection, unless there is flammable equipment that you really need to wear. Iron equipment will most likely survive without ring of ice, and higher metal is completely safe.

    Moreover, the dwarven mystic will give neutral characters a ring of ice in the recent versions of the game, if you really want one.

    So itīs much better to use your wish on something else. Scale mail is not a great use of a wish either imo, especially when youīre already fire immune.

    Do you have teleport control yet? Teleport control is extremely important, the most important intrinsic in the game by far. I think you're best off wishing for a blink dog. Once you have teleport control, it will allow you to chat to the mystic, so you will get a free ring of ice as one of the immediate benefits. He might also give you four more SoCR.
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    I did have teleport control early on but I lost it due to some pool sipping (I did gain paralyazation resistance and death resistance in return though) Might be my best play at this point to regain teleport control and try the mystic, especially now you mention that, I really don't want to excessively grind (And also given the relatively low means of chaos removal, I don't want to get too corrupted grinding) That and I also can put back on my cloak of oman to use, it been sitting gathering dust for a while now since losing tele control and I not have enough brink dog spawn.

    That or wish for ring of elemental mastery but that only helps out later on, I need a means of now for ToEF.

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