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    Well as a paying customer and a long time player if I have any weight in this at all, I find the constant changes to the way I interact with the game annoying. I don't need a pop up box with options, I already know the options, I don't want my keyboard layout changed as my fingers are already trained, I also don't like the highlighted text as it is distracting, and I do not want text any other location other than the top of the screen, like my fingers my eyes have been trained over the years to get all my info from that location.

    The game should not be re-configuring screen layout and keyboard layout with an update. I am not sure if the newer players even play in the ASCII display that much anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah View Post
    Well as a paying customer and a long time player if I have any weight in this at all, I find the constant changes to the way I interact with the game annoying.

    The game should not be re-configuring screen layout and keyboard layout with an update. I am not sure if the newer players even play in the ASCII display that much anyways.
    + a lot. Jesus, leaving at least an option to use old configuration for your games old time fans should not be that hard.

    Good thing, I played lot of other roguelikes lately so keystroke changes are somewhat passable, but I think skipping at least few versions might be in order for me. Doors and bubbles are literally driving me crazy.
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    Maybe a bug fix version of r72??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avail View Post
    I'm finding several bugs in all of the changes and I cant play without getting interrupted every 5-10 miniutes by the game crashing. I also dislike the changes to key commands. It was annoying to learn them all, and now their changing. I don't want to relearn the interface again. I don't want to crash. I don't want to have update no matter what.
    Have you supplied bug reports on the crashes at http://www.adom.de/bugs? If not please do so - otherwise we can't fix them.

    We yesterday released ADOM 2.3.8 which fixes one more major crash bug wit NotEye. We are looking forward to feedback.

    And regarding the interface... well, sorry. But it's here to stay mostly. We are happy to refine it if you find specific things slow or not too your liking. Again: Please provide appropriate RFEs under the address above and we will consider them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah View Post
    The game should not be re-configuring screen layout and keyboard layout with an update. I am not sure if the newer players even play in the ASCII display that much anyways.
    Sadly it is impossible to keep two different behaviours with a game the size of ADOM (and our small team). If we had 2-3 times as many people (and money), then maybe.

    Please note that we don't intend to change the UI all the time. But we want to improve it and the old UI really was horrible in many ways if you tried to learn the game. And the latter is very important for us because new players are mostly unable to learn ADOM it will once again die. And I guess most of us don't want that to happen again.

    So please give it a week or so. I did and for me it works very well. Like for many other folks out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soirana View Post
    + a lot. Jesus, leaving at least an option to use old configuration for your games old time fans should not be that hard.
    Sadly it is. Very hard I mean. And it would introduce hundreds of weird bugs due to all the special cases. We tried with with early 2.3.x releases which had options to remove all info boxes and speech bubbles and it just was not viable. So we removed them.
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