Quote Originally Posted by szopin View Post
Started a new thread as hoping stealth/pick pocketing/thief quest discussion can thrive outside of unrelated thread:
http://www.adom.de/forums/showthread...lth-in-general

Just wanted to chime on the grind question. I don't agree grind is mmorpg only. Grinding as in doing repeated tasks over and over to gain some minimal gains was always in ADOM and is still there. Stairhopping? Herb farms? Clearing big room for that quest monster (or ID)? Those are all examples of grinding in ADOM. Can you play/win without grinding? Sure, but often times people grind because it is the least dangerous option, you get minimal rewards, for minimal risks, just time investment instead, like running ID 1-3 over and over to get those spellbooks. And yes, I agree mmorpgs took grind to the next level and most actions in them are a grind, but doesn't change the fact grind exists in almost all games in some way
I never said grinds were MMORPGs only and I already said scumming can become a grind. So I am not really sure who you are disagreeing with.