Quote Originally Posted by blunk View Post
I don't really expect "regular" stone giants to push potentials, well maybe hoping for it if str is as low as 15 but ....

Stone giant lords however, they are a lot better as are dark orcs (and fire giant kings and frost jarls).
At 15 you could probably get an increase with muscle mushroom (not garantueed drop tho), mushrooms can push potentials if stats are low enough.
Not sure if orc butcher or giant boar pushes past potential.
Not sure about boar, but orc butcher works exactly like dark orc. Also, good point about the mushrooms! Although I like using mushrooms to enhance my Beauty the most! It’s all about the irony. A dwarf with ap 1 eats lots of dubious fungus and becomes stunningly gorgeous!