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    Default This forum needs...

    Just some guy who deletes those stupid spam threads so Thomas doesn't have to do it himself.

    Aka moderator.

    Alternatively, an expert in shoes who can decipher the misplaced attempts at shoe-related conversation.
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    I absolutely agree.

    I'd say we should let a few people volunteer, then do a formal vote and send TB an email with the results and recommend him to please please make that person a mod. That way he can pick the right person without having to spend too much time on it (we all know how much spare time he's got these days ).

    Just so that there is anyone, I hereby volunteer
    (dont you vote for me! i know nothing about shoes, except that 7lbs can't be that bad)
    (honestly; since i'm most definitely not among the most active persons here, i doubt i'd be the best moderator)

    Jokes aside. I'd say *if* we get a mod, there should be the clear rule that he can not use his permissions for anything other than dealing with spam. No editing others first posts in league threads or things like that, however handy that may be (for him).
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    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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    As in "Hey Thomas hope you had a nice vacation here is who we want to be mod to fix the spambots"?

    I'd picture him saying "Huh wtf is going on" in return... Not sure if we should dump the results of a moderator vote in his lap right away, though I guess he will understand the reasons for it. Keep in mind that he's had a lot of opportunity to select a mod if he thinks one is necessary or desirable, and maybe he wants to get rid of the spam himself, in his time - it's not become unbearable yet, after all. So even if he does come to agree that a mod is required, I think he wants to make the decision as to who that should be himself.

    Still, if he's going to select a mod from our ranks - I doubt many of us know him personally - a vote could be the best option.

    I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to get a mod only for getting rid of spam now that I think about it - if you're going to get a mod at all and give him forum permissions, you might as well let him do the other stuff a mod would be cool for, such as stickied threads, for instance for forum competitions, renaming misnomed thread titles. You don't have to give him the power to ban users, after all, and without that basically all he is is the guy with the "Moderator" line in his username who is the general purpose forum lackey.

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    You don't have to give him the power to ban users
    But shouldn't it also be a job for a moderator to ban the advertising bots, rather then only deleting their messages?
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    Hum. Tru dat. Guess it all depends on the level of trust Thomas is willing to invest in another person...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to get a mod only for getting rid of spam now that I think about it - if you're going to get a mod at all and give him forum permissions, you might as well let him do the other stuff a mod would be cool for, such as stickied threads, for instance for forum competitions, renaming misnomed thread titles. You don't have to give him the power to ban users, after all, and without that basically all he is is the guy with the "Moderator" line in his username who is the general purpose forum lackey.
    Thanks for pointing this out.

    It's exactly what I do *not* want.

    The absence of moderators is one of the things I like most about this forum. Of course spam is an exception.
    Last edited by Epythic; 09-01-2009 at 05:56 PM.
    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    For what it's worth, I volunteer.
    Works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epythic View Post
    Thanks for pointing this out.

    It's exactly what I do *not* want.

    The absence of moderators is one of the things I like most about this forum. Of course spam is an exception.
    Please explain. As far as I can tell, moderators are not a problem, bad moderators are the problem. As in, overbearing, self-important dickweeds.

    My most holy principle would be never to ban users except spambots, and to never remove any content except spam content or porn - I don't believe in banning obnoxious or trollish real people or deleting offensive posts, or imposing policies on swearing or bullshit like that. I'm a fan of free speech and having people resolve trouble through talking, and I like this forum the way it is. A lot.

    I would get rid of spam, sticky the occasional thread if there's demand for it and correct typos in thread titles if asked to. If there's a way to do it, I'll even request to be given the "Forum Lackey" title instead of "Moderator"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silfir View Post
    Please explain. As far as I can tell, moderators are not a problem, bad moderators are the problem. As in, overbearing, self-important dickweeds.

    My most holy principle would be never to ban users except spambots, and to never remove any content except spam content or porn - I don't believe in banning obnoxious or trollish real people or deleting offensive posts, or imposing policies on swearing or bullshit like that. I'm a fan of free speech

    I would get rid of spam, sticky the occasional thread and correct typos in thread titles. If there's a way to do it, I'll even request to be given the "Forum Lackey" title instead of "Moderator"...
    - Spam, go.
    - Typos in thread titles... as long as the original name is still recognizable, go. (for typo fixing, but rephrasing or altering to better fit the threads contents is a no-go).
    - Why do we need sticky threads? Important threads usually stay up without help, as long as they are relevant. What if you make, say, the Weakest Link 2010 Rules thread sticky and then disappear right after that contest is over? Everone disappears for a while from time to time... this is the adom community after all. Bad bad, no mods to take the thread down. Sticky thread no-go.
    - Thread locking: no-go. It's always been beyond me why some mods like to lock threads. After all, someone might have a good reason to necro a thread.
    - The single thing that I would dislike most is mods editing other peoples posts, whether or not the person who made that post agrees.

    Ok, I've made lots of bad experiences with bad moderators. But I think you'll agree that so far things work pretty smoothly, except for the spam thing and even that is (was) fairly limited.

    Forum-lackey or moderator? Meh. I'd prefer no title at all; my experience is that the Moderator title below a nickname can influence a conversation quite a bit... in the This-Guy-Is-A-Mod-And-You-Are-Not-So-Guess-Who-Is-Right way.
    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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