Platnium Girdle

[Jonas]

about that one....

notice that all the skill sets are at 100 and that every weapon skill is at grant mastery, and that many spells are above 10k, and all the attributes are at 99...

all in 62 days.

Possible?

I think not.

[warheart]

Well, I think that should be possible with hundreds of wishes (wish engine via gremlin bomb, or something). What I find kinda strange is the number of times the player asked for divine intervention, 1495 seems a bit high imo :P Maybe exploiting integer piety bug for many precrownings or something like that, but still it seems a bit much. Anyway, not that I can really comment about this kind of chars, I'm noob in ADOM

[Grey]

The character did indeed abuse the piety bug and generate a wish engine - both fairly dirty tactics in my books. The same goes for many of Alex Pinachos' chars. The sad thing is it's just really not necessary, and it takes all the fun out of the game.

[gut]

Wish engines, piety abuse, they both equal exploration
mode to me.

[Smite]

Umm..

I've been playing ADOM for about 4 years and I know Andy's Guidebook pretty much backwards. So I feel kind of stupid asking, but:

What is a wish engine, and how do I make it work?

What is a Gremlin Bomb?

Also, is there somewhere that gives a detailed explanation of how to exploit the piety bug. I had a character once that found a chaos alter, and a lawful alter on adjoining levels in the UD. Apparently this is a good start?

[Grey]

A wish engine means getting infinite wishes. Usually this is done through dipping rings into potions of exchange on D8 to get RoDSes, then spending the wishes on more potions of exchange to get more wishes etc. This requires a lot of luck to get started (unless you have an early potion shop). It should only really be used for testing since it breaks the game horribly.

Gremlin bomb means setting up a situation where infinte gremlins are spawning from a water trap. The infinite gremlins are then pickpocketed and killed off for items. Can be done in the gremlin cave, but it's fairly low level for items (no RoDSes there) so people who abuse this usually either read scrolls of danger there or take a fluff ball to somewhere else like the dwarven graveyard. Considered a very scummy tactic, but some people justify this as a way to get an AoLS for Khelly (personally I avoid it).

Piety abuse I won't describe - the information's out there if you really want to use it. It's a disgusting tactic, and most importantly a buig, so exploiting it in a normal game is often considered cheating.

[gut]

I'll do it! I'm feeling a bit C right now.
Well, maybe just CN, sense it is a pretty
dull tactic, I will just give a summary of
it.

Every time you pray, you lose a bit of
piety. If you pray repeatedly, you would
lose so much piety, that your diety would
start to hate you. Someone discovered a
bug in the game, that makes the piety
numbers loop around, if your diety hates
you enough. So with enough praying,
your piety would eventually loop around
to an insanely high number.

I think it would break the game slightly
less than a wish engine, because you
are limited to fewer benefits. Like an
unlimited source of healing, PP's restoring,
poison curing, precrowning, uncursing,
and so on. It's definitely a bug though.

[Grey]

I'll do it! I'm feeling a bit C right now.
Well, maybe just CN, sense it is a pretty
dull tactic, I will just give a summary of
it.

Not that C evidently since you don't describe how to do it safely :P Since I'm leaning on NC at the mo I will say that key ingredients are usually L alignment, ID, darkness or wands of door creation and keys/locking, holy symbol, '_' key. Give some imagination as to how they can be applied together. Not actually done it before myself, but I know the theory well enough.

[Jonas]

teleport can be handy too, and door creation is mainly for C alignment

[Smite]

Actually come to think of it I think I have heard of some of these tactics. Is the idea to surround yourself with locked doors so that the the solars, gray slayers can't get to you. If so, I'm guessing you put the doors around the staircase so that you can exit the level safely?

I must agree with the other comments though; personally I've never explored the wish engines, or gremlin bombs.

Where does luring the Banshee to the Animated Forrest come into it? I've done that. Also whenever I get to the Casino I usually find at least one artifact in the shop. Along with a Girdle of Greed you could spend as much time as you like in the Casino buying out the shop and waiting for a particular Artifact. Any comments?