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    Thats a pretty dull way of trying to generate more artifacts.... NOt generating any of the guaranteed artifacts, then chilling out in the ID until you reach Level 50 sounds much more fun.

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    Back to the original topic (though I know it was slightly dead), I really think the Platinum Girdle restrictions were just too excessive to make it a fun, or even reasonable, challenge. Things like, no backstabbing, no attacking non-hostiles, etc, would be fine - but 'No lawfuls must die' is ridiculous. When you get ambushed by Blink Dogs on a corridor of one of the early dungeons, there's not much you can do.

    A moot point, of course, given that development on ADOM is dead, but here are some alternative platinum girdle restrictions I would have preferred:

    - No eating chaotic/undead/chaos corpses (so no snacking on goblins or orcs!)
    - No attacking non-hostiles (only the 'Are you sure you want to attack y/n?' ones, though).
    - No attacking monsters while invisible.
    - No pickpocketing (period).
    - No robbing stores/the Water Dragon.
    - No accepting the Kranach reward (i.e, leave the gold on the ground).
    - All Chaos Corpses (they'd be guaranteed to be generated) must be taken to the Druid in Terinyo.
    - Holy Water must be poured on Grif's grave, either instead of or after he's killed in melee, but before leaving the level after killing the necromancer. If you follow me.
    - No ratling/Gaab'Bay quests.
    - No gambling in the Casino.
    - All lawful quests must be completed (i.e, Thrundarr's, Water Dragon, White Unicorn, Rynt/Guth'Alak, Kranach AND Puppy quest (a pain in the ass, believe me, I have to do both every time because of my OCD)) excluding the 'Kill Hotzenplotz' one (alternatively, make Hotzenplotz hostile if bandit town is visited after receiving this quest).
    - No grave digging.
    - 90 day time limit - it's unlawful to allow the background Chaos corruption to proceed to such a high degree.

    Also:
    + It's permitted to attack hostiles of any alignment.
    + No penalties for friendly/otherwise creatures dying.

    Would have made an Ultra platinum ending impossible, but it'd still be fun, at least.
    Last edited by Covenant; 05-28-2008 at 08:33 PM.

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    Back to offtopic, namely to wish engines:

    So if I'd just wish for rings and potions of exchange, what do you think how many wishes (acquired from elsewhere) would i need to get it started?
    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epythic View Post
    Back to offtopic, namely to wish engines:

    So if I'd just wish for rings and potions of exchange, what do you think how many wishes (acquired from elsewhere) would i need to get it started?
    Hmm... The chance of getting =oDSes is something like 1/30 on DH:2. I have gotten them a few times, the chance is reasonably high IMO. So when you dip 19 stacking rings and get djinni rings, you must bless them and use around 10 wishes for potions of exchange to get 30 potions. This leaves 9 free wishes per round. Occasionally water must be wished for and blessed, but water is easily found.

    EDIT:Never done this myself, this is just theory. I've never found enough stacking rings and !oExes in one game.
    Last edited by Laukku; 05-31-2008 at 07:37 AM.
    You hit Andor Drakon, the ElDeR cHaOs GoD, and severely wound him.
    The greater balor summons some help!
    The ratling duelist disarms you. You drop your blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12]. It flies to the west.
    Andor Drakon, the ElDeR cHaOs GoD, picks up the blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12].
    Andor Drakon, the ElDeR cHaOs GoD, wields the blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12].

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    Best place to ring-dip is D8 - going deeper reduces your chances (it/s about 4/100 there, about 3/100 in DH2). From what I hear you want a buffer of about 70 blessed potions of exchange at all times, so all your first wishes should be PoEx to get this many ASAP (70/3 = 23). Personally I'd be extra cautious and always keep it over 100. You also need many wishes spent on water and a nearby altar for blessing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey View Post
    Best place to ring-dip is D8 - going deeper reduces your chances (it/s about 4/100 there, about 3/100 in DH2). From what I hear you want a buffer of about 70 blessed potions of exchange at all times, so all your first wishes should be PoEx to get this many ASAP (70/3 = 23). Personally I'd be extra cautious and always keep it over 100. You also need many wishes spent on water and a nearby altar for blessing them.
    4/100=1/25! Wow!

    And what does that "70/3 = 23" mean?

    Personally I'd be extra cautious and always keep it over 100.
    IMHO keeping even 70 potions is extra cautious :p Even 50 is enough for a long time.
    Last edited by Laukku; 05-31-2008 at 04:47 PM. Reason: fixed smilie
    You hit Andor Drakon, the ElDeR cHaOs GoD, and severely wound him.
    The greater balor summons some help!
    The ratling duelist disarms you. You drop your blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12]. It flies to the west.
    Andor Drakon, the ElDeR cHaOs GoD, picks up the blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12].
    Andor Drakon, the ElDeR cHaOs GoD, wields the blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12].

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    You need 70 PoEx, and you get an average of 3 per wish, so it'd take about 23 wishes just to build up the necessary initial buffer.

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    Perhaps it is just my distorted opinion, but I
    think a memory editor would be easier.
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    *THAT* would be cheating
    Of course it's unfair - that's the whole point.

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    I believe gut was trying to make a point along those lines... Not that wish engines are cheating, but they reduce the game to the "what's the point?" position in the same way as cheating. What's the point in playing a wish engined game? There really isn't one, unless you're just doing testing.

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