known master thief bug?

[ragface]

when i talk to the master thief in lawentilohoy, he says:
I think ye need you to practise some more. But he doesn't teach me the pick pocket skill. and I don't have it

Is there a work around?

[nathrakh]

I think picking locks and disarming traps is ok for him too.. I just don't know the exact numbers needed but IIRC they are so high that you should always use pick pocketing..

[ragface]

thanks, but I don't have any of those skills either.

Im a trollish healer.

N= at the moment

[Nezur]

The master thief will not teach Pickpocketing if you have robbed shops.

[vogonpoet]

Yeah if you rob a shop before talking to him, you have to prove your abilities by robbing more shops, rather than doing lots of pickpocketing. I am not sure if anyone ever successfully joined the guild from shop robbing alone.

[ragface]

The master thief will not teach Pickpocketing if you have robbed shops.

OOOH I see,
This game is funny in that way.

Yeah if you rob a shop before talking to him, you have to prove your abilities by robbing more shops, rather than doing lots of pickpocketing. I am not sure if anyone ever successfully joined the guild from shop robbing alone.

Haha well always worth a try.

[Soirana]

i recall testing it in ancient times. Robbing all early guaranteed shops [all-1 was not] was good enough to get in guild. Although i am not sure if it is robs per shop or per items which matters.

Early guaranteed: Food shop, black market, HMW and dwarven.

One thing sure guild might be entered that way.

[vogonpoet]

The other variable being what constitutes a successful shop rob - is each shopkeeper meant to be alive, meaning a successful invisible filching, or can you kick rob the shops, or indeed slay the shopkeepers for success?

[Soirana]

according to notes i picked stuff while invisible [one thing per turn] and after that teleport robbed rest. No shopkeepers were harmed in the process.

I do not remember it so that is all details i can give.

[ragface]

Well I've robbed around 4 shops(HMW + 3 random) and killed the owners. Still not good enough.. always took plenty of stuff..