Change some ice monsters' (frozen ones and ice statues) ASCII colors
issueid=2994 05-21-2014 12:45 PM
Ancient Member
Number of reported issues by _Ln_: 83
Change some ice monsters' (frozen ones and ice statues) ASCII colors

Currently all new monsters that were added with the Ice Queen domain (except lizards and salamanders) are represented as white symbols. As some of these monster can be encountered in dungeons, I propose to change the following monsters to light blue (as ice lizards):

frozen one (white z skeletons are so dominant that only they are associated with the symbol)
ice statue (snow golems make sense as white Y's, but ice statues look too much like diamond golems which were previously very distinct which was necessary due to their high danger).
Issue Details
Issue Number 2994
Issue Type Feature
Project ADOM (Ancient Domains Of Mystery)
Category All
Status Implemented
Priority 10 - Lowest
Suggested Version ADOM r48
Implemented Version ADOM r48
Milestone (none)
Votes for this feature 11
Votes against this feature 0
Assigned Users adom-admin
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05-21-2014 05:20 PM
Senior Member
You read my mind regarding frozen ones. Nasty surprise when I first encountered one thinking it was a skeleton only to find out was more like an uber-ghul. The light wraith-blue is perfect for both.

06-05-2014 08:40 AM
Ancient Member
Frozen ones could be light blue, I agree. There are no other blue undead using "z" symbol and this color is lore-friendly (vel George Martin and his Others).
I'm not certain about ice statues and snow golems - we already have steel zombies which are encountered outside of dark forge and they are relatively dangerous monsters that ignore PV and have multiple attacks.
Instead, I'd advocate the usage of white and blue letter "I".
"I" already stands for some constructs, like humunculi or gargoyles so it would be fitting to use it for ice statues and snow golems.

06-05-2014 12:29 PM
Senior Member
There are enough blues to go around. Steel zombie blue isn't the same as icy wraith blue.

You have a point though, regarding gargoyles etc, they're essentially stone statues anyway, but imps, another I, are proper flesh and blood creatures I thought?

06-05-2014 12:50 PM
Ancient Member
Gremlins, imps and quasits too, it seems.
No idea why are they actually represented by "I", other than the fact that "&" ran out of colors.
They belong to a group of minor demons after all, save maybe for gremlins.
Imps and quasits could be white or light blue "&".
Although the latter is already used for djinnis, those are arguably the rarest monsters seen walking around, they can literally only show up when a player uses a non-blessed RoDS, which doesn't happen too often.
Anyway, I think any single change right now would have a high chance of propagating and forcing more changes somewhere else and that's something I wouldn't want to see as a player.
I got used to stuff looking one way so it's ok to add new stuff, but not so ok to change existing things.

06-29-2014 12:13 PM
The Creator
I have changed frozen ones tonight blue and ice statues, too. Hopefully people will occasionally look before attacking. The price of ASCII with limited colors :-(

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