IBM guild manual appears as a book in NotEye
issueid=2993 05-21-2014 03:47 AM
Junior Member
Number of reported issues by heapsofgold: 8
IBM guild manual appears as a book in NotEye

I'm unsure as to whether this constitutes an actual "bug" or not, as it makes perfect sense for the IBM guild manual to appear as a book.

With NotEye activated, when the IBM guild manual is on the ground, it's image is a book, even though it's categorized as a scroll in-game. Perhaps it should look like a scroll, so as to avoid easy identification?
Issue Details
Issue Number 2993
Project ADOM (Ancient Domains Of Mystery)
Category All with NotEye
Status Fixed
Priority 10 - Lowest
Affected Version ADOM r48
Fixed Version ADOM r57
Milestone (none)
Users able to reproduce bug 1
Users unable to reproduce bug 0
Assigned Users adom-admin
Tags (none)

05-21-2014 04:39 AM
Ancient Member
I believe it has always looked like a book (").

05-21-2014 05:36 AM
jt jt is offline
From a technical point it is a scroll, but Krys made the image look like a book (it has it's own image, if you look closely you can see the IBM letters). Maybe he can modify the image?

05-21-2014 05:55 AM
Junior Member
I always thought it looked like a ?, like other scrolls.

Oh nice, I didn't even look close enough at it to notice the letters. Nice detail! Up to you whether it should be changed, I suppose. Just seems odd that it looks like a book when it's a scroll (though now that I think of it, what's stopping the guild manual from being a book, in-game?)

05-21-2014 08:12 AM
Senior Member
It is a nice touch, but to preserve the nasty surprise I think it should either look like a scroll, or else be redefined as a book and made to look like a spellbook.

05-21-2014 09:16 AM
Ancient Member
As a spellbook it will effectively discourage melee classes from even attempting to read it.
As a scroll it still has a potential to screw you up no matter what class you're playing.
Its sole purpose has always been to make your life miserable hasn't it?
Making it a spellbook narrows the potential "audience" for this practical joke.

05-21-2014 04:39 PM
Junior Member
There are already quite a few scrolls that will screw you up when reading it (scrolls of amnesia, danger, ill fate, destruction, monster aggravation... not to mention 95% of cursed scrolls). Also, the IBM guild manual is always labelled "irk gleknow mizk", so to someone who knows that, there will be no further surprises from it whatsoever.

Apart from the tomes of order/balance/chaos (which all have weights that aren't 100s, for easy identification), reading a book has no ill effect, except when your literacy isn't great. Once at 100 Literacy, there are basically zero surprises from reading any 100s spellbook (even cursed ones aren't bad to read, unlike scrolls). Reading UnID'd books is completely safe, whereas you almost certainly want to ID any scroll before reading it (including finding its B/U/C status).

As the IBM guild manual is already ridiculously rare, I see no real issue with just turning it into a book. THAT'S going to be the only way it will ever screw up a player more than once.

(Maybe it might also be a good idea to remove the "IBM" from the item graphic? I'm on the fence with that idea, the letters aren't terribly obvious unless you are actually paying attention to that detail...)

05-21-2014 06:09 PM
Ancient Member
If it looks like a book in NotEye, it should probably look like a book in ASCII then as well.

03-06-2015 07:25 PM
Ancient Member
Changed IBM Guild Manual icon to represent a scroll rather than a book.
Now ASCII and Graphical are consistent on this matter, issue can be closed :)

03-06-2015 08:02 PM
jt jt is offline

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